Update on opiate journey..........

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terrifying ? damn ..................well if i get down to 2.5 mg for a while then 2 mg then 1.5 can i do it that way or will it still be real bad ? how do docs usually have u come off it
 
taper - like you are doing man.

Worst benzo wd i had was certainly when I was using xanax around 12-14 mg a day. Went from that to mad tremors - it was a shitty week man.

I don't abuse my own script anymore , matter of fact I use it less than ever , I've gone months at 2-3 mgs a day and then had no w/d problems - also have been on benzos since I was 10. Now I take as needed, some days are good, dont take at all. I think benzos are very case dependent for w/ds - just be safe with your taper, how long have you been on that dose ?
 
Do you actually want to go off the benzos at the moment Jake or is this something you're doing because of the methadone programme - because as things stand right now you simply don't know whether they'll allow you to stay on the programme while on benzos.

If you've decided that now's the time to get off the benzos, there's no reason you can't get your doctor (or even the clinic) to come up with a tapering plan. You seem to change direction very quickly without that external structure and it's really easy to find an excuse to bump your dose back up again "just for a few days" when something stressful happens if there's no-one external monitoring your tapering.
 
" And the way they do them in parole is so demeaning, you stand in a room with 10 impatient excons behind you waiting for you to piss, and an officer staring at your dick the entire time.
Being the peeshy person I am, there was many days even when my bladder was full with liquids, that I still couldn't open the flowway and piss. Ah man I fucking hate urine tests, I prob couldn't go to a meth clinic entirely for that reason alone. "


Only in america would they be able to get away with these sorts of things. In the u.k. no-one watches you piss and you can have a benzo script , even dirty urines wont effect you maintenance dose. I expect most of europe is the same.

maybe i was lucky>?? i had someone come in the room with me but never had someone staring at my dick at a meth clinic.. if thats how nazi your clinic is you really need to find a new fucking clinic holy crap
 
maybe i was lucky>?? i had someone come in the room with me but never had someone staring at my dick at a meth clinic.. if thats how nazi your clinic is you really need to find a new fucking clinic holy crap

He was talking about giving urines while on parole. It's similar here - if your probation and parole officer turns up at your house to take a random urine sample they will stand there and watch you pee, and if they take a sample at their office they're on the lookout for substitution.
 
artofwar- i been around 3 mg a day about 3 months now
LOLIe- i dont want to get off benzos , just that clinic dont allow them

stukin aloop- they dont watch you pee, you could easily use someone elses pee
 
so its weird because even though i dont NEED to take Klonopin right now , i feel like i do ..............i mean im not phsiically feeling withdrawls but its been about 7 hours since i had my 1 mg this morning and since im used to taking 1 mg three times a day , im gonna just take .5 now . i wanna wean off so i wont have to keep worrying about giving urines at the clinic. keep hearing how bad methadone withdrawal is but i have a year free on program. at least it will keep me from riskin goin to jail for a dope charge , wastin money on dope, and i have time to lower my dose gradually
 
made it thru today with 2 mg k pin ...............of course its night time and id like to take more but i took a tylenol pm instead.............figure best i can do is try to wean off .
 
nah they take forever , i havent even had a one on one with my counselor yet..............i just think only chance i have of them allowing it is if i got a release from my dr. , and i dont see how i can come clean with him about all this.......what if he cut off the k pin cold turkey ? id be hurtin.............at least the clinic i could fail a test or 2 for benzos , then if i HAD to stop them to stay on i would...........
 
Dude.. you won't be hurting. Not only is 1mg Klon TID a small regiment but you're taking methadone which will do much more for your "anxiety" than any benzo will.
 
hmmmmmmmmmmmm............i dont know...........even if ive taken 3 mg a day every day for a few months now ?
 
I think if you dropped to 1mg a day.. did that for like a week.. then stopped completely, I doubt you'd feel bad withdrawal from it.
 
i took 2 mg yesterday , so far today i have only taken .5 mgand it is almost 2 in the afternoon already. have to go to work soon so ill prob bring 1 mg with me and take what i need............what i am wondering is even if i get down to taking no more klonopin , is it gonna hang around in my urine for a long time since i was on it a long time ? like up to 30 days? i can fail a test or 2 for benzos but that is the one thing they are strict about you failing......id guess as long as they see you have a lower level of it every test then they know you arent taking more......at least that is how probation would do it i tihink.........dont know if clinics run it the same way
 
Since you're not overdoing it.. I doubt it'll hang in there longer than a week or two. While benzos tend to stay in urine longer than typical drugs like amphetamines, opiates, and cocaine.. they also (in my experience) won't stay as long as something like marijuana. Just stop taking it as soon as you can.. I'm 99% sure you don't need it at all and are only taking it to potentiate the methadone.
 
yeah i know , its just so hard when i have them. im thinkin i shuld just take most of them and only leave enough to force myself to taper off . cuz i have no self control when they are sittin there
 
That's understandable.. I also try not to have drugs, because if I have them then fuck yeah I take them... make sure you don't get any refills.
 
that would be real tough not to get the refill. when you know you can get 90 of them for so cheap, its pretty hard to just say oh ill forget about it , i dont need it lol
 
hardest thing in the world is have access to legal RX'd drugs, know you have a problem, and resist it.

I can't say I've ever accomplished that. No will power for that.
 
tryin to take soma instead of k pin today . some other girl on clinic SWEARS she takes k pin and never fails her tests at the clinic . i dont get it...........
 
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