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hey guys

i was thinkin bout doing a course of sustanon soon i have 8 weeks to train on the gear i am getting 25ml of sus

what should eb the regime i have worked out for many years i weigh 100-110 kg 6,2 i want to get alot of gains i am already reasonably big but i have to loose 10kg

what is the best way to use the gear with a 8 week workout to get the best results
 
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Cancel your order and learn some shit before you start ignorantly putting very strong hormones into your body

^^^^^^^^
wtf





• Age 28
• Weight 110kg
• AAS experience (have you used AAS before, what doses, results?) used plenty of gear
deca and dinabol, 3 dinabol a day and 5 ml a week of deca for 8 weeks pyrmided
test prop, 5ml per week 6 weeks
stanazol, 10ml per week for 4 weeks
sustanon i used 1-2 ml a week for 6 months
•

Goals i want to put on mass quickly
• BF% i have a high body fat at the moment due to less training and more eating hahhhahaha
• Diet lean chicked and salad
• Work out schedule will be twice a day for the 8 weeks


i came here too get the most out of what gear im using and maybe there is something to be learned that i dont know but if you post is like below dont waste yours or my time as i am not a first time user or ignorant

"Cancel your order and learn some shit before you start ignorantly putting very strong hormones into your body. "
 
My bad.

Then I guess you know that sust should be injected EOD, run it 10 weeks min., pyramiding is outdated, you shouldn't run a cycle with anything CLOSE to high body fat. You kind of see where I'm coming from?

Deca/Dbol was thought to be a good idea around 1977.


Sorry man, but from what I read, you need to do a little more research on what you're doing; for your health's sake. My .02. if you like it you can take it, if not, send it right on back.
 
when i say high b/f i do say that in body builders terms not general and there a difference what im mainly needing to know is diet as this what i lack the most and to know if any others should be stacked with sus
 
Sust is a blend of several test esters. Its generally used as HRT as the different blends of test release at different times allowing for less frequent injections. This however doesn't suit bbing purposes very well as the long clear time for the longer esters make for a hard PCT and recovery and you don't know if your coming or going (building up on deconate whilst coming down from prop...) I'd only recomend it as a lead in to a cycle as an EOD inject for the first 2 weeks of a cycle with longer esters (eg weeks 1-2 EOD 250mg Sust, weeks 3-12 Test enanth)

As its test it stacks well with everything. Deca for mass, Tren or winny for cutting, etc.

Proper PCT needed of Nolva or Clomid with some HCG.

As for diet and training- these should be honed to shit BEFORE starting your cycle. For a cut you should know the drill- 500 cals under maintanance, 1.5-2g protein per lb of bodyweight, split into 6-7 meals a day.

Training: 30-45mins cardio on waking on an empty stomache. Protein shake when you return. Heavy lifts 3 times a week. Maybe add a circuit training day. Keep your heartrate up whilst lifting so make sure your rest periods between sets don't go over a minute or so.
 
Sustanon...not the best choice

p-mo said:
Sust is a blend of several test esters. Its generally used as HRT as the different blends of test release at different times allowing for less frequent injections. This however doesn't suit bbing purposes very well as the long clear time for the longer esters make for a hard PCT and recovery and you don't know if your coming or going (building up on deconate whilst coming down from prop...) I'd only recomend it as a lead in to a cycle as an EOD inject for the first 2 weeks of a cycle with longer esters (eg weeks 1-2 EOD 250mg Sust, weeks 3-12 Test enanth)
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Agreed, and very well put.

Sust should be used to front if you can't find prop. Not a fan of sust at all, run enan and front sust like p-mo suggested. If not, your test levels will continue to jump around...and you want them constant. Sust will not help here, thus it's the main reason BB don't use it (too many esters).

Sustanon is mainly used in testosterone replacement therapy for male sexual problems for example:

* after castration or a similar problem called eunuchoidism
* impotence caused by hormonal disorders
* decreased sex drive
* infertility caused by low sperm count
* bone loss caused by low hormone levels
* when the pituitary gland cannot work as well as it should (hypopituitarism); this can cause decreased sexual ability in males.

It is also given to patients to induce masculinisation in female-to-male transsexuals.

For one, it's a pain because you have to hit it ED or EOD because of the short acting esters (prop). Where as with enanthate, you could get away with 1 or 2 shots a week. And second, it takes over 4 months to clear sust from your system, so recovery will be much more intense and difficult. You won't begin to recover natural HPTA function until months after your last shot with sustanon.

If you are going to be pinning ED/EOD I would much rather use prop. And for BB purposes, having 4 different esters is not to our advantage.

Take a look at this article, might shed some light.

http://www.steroid-encyclopaedia.com/blog/?p=25

Also, run a search about the "sustanon flu". Some may call it a myth, but it made me feel like shit at times. Men have reported: cases of impotence, chronic priapism, epididymitis, inhibition of testicular function, oligospermia, and bladder irritability. Some people that take Sustanon 250 have reported "flu like" symptoms as well. These symptoms include a higher than normal fever, stomach aches, being tired, etc.

When I tried sustanon on a heavy dose, I felt really groggy and I did get stomach pains. I would get "pumps" at random times, the pump feel you want at the gym, I would sometimes get it before bed. Not fun. I almost felt like I had an ulcer using this stuff. Some, have had no problems at all with it. We all react differently to different substances.

There are many articles floating around out there that can further explain why sust is not the best choice of test to use.
 
250mg sustanon eod is too much for a beginner!

250mg twice a week, once monday, once thursday. For 10 weeks, would be plenty.

Results will come from food and training, not from high doses. Fine tune your diet, not your gear.
 
800mg(ish) of test a week isn't an insane ammount but your right for a 5th cycle I would be suggesting more in the 500mg/week range. The problem is the short esters of the sust "running out" between shots. Maybe 0.3ml/ED would help even things out. The problem isn't so much the lead in time as the lead out time which will level you supressed for weeks/months after your cycle. There is no reason to recommend sust over a single ester and the only way to run is as a front load agent (to stop the 2-4 week build up period before long estered versions of test start to kick in).
 
prop test i have had this before and the injection sites hurt like fuck the next day

i have already got the sus and protein powder

what do you suggest that will stack well with sus

so to get this strait =250mg twice a week, once monday, once thursday. For 10 weeks,
so 1 ml twice a week
 
5th cycle but still sounds newbie (no offence)

Yes sust isn't good for bodybuilding, a more consistent dose is better, ie a single ester. But
many have gained from sus250 2x per week.
No need for more, the residual buildup is all thats happening, which will last 1 month post last shot! Not ideal, you wanna start pct on time and asap.
 
mate i have not done a course in a couple of years as iv been tryin to make a baby im open to all advise that you have i alreaey got the sus so i have to use it i think i have the diet thing down pat is there any good gear that will stack with it well or that i should run at the end of the sus novadex or clomid during or after and maybe i am a rookie but only cos i have been out of it for a couple years
 
i have already got the sus and protein powder
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You didn't have the protein powder BEFORE?!?

Clomid/Nolvadex should be taken after the last shot- about 2 weeks after. You can use during if you start to notice signs of gyno (itchy, puffy nipples and hard patches under the nipple).
 
p-mo said:
You didn't have the protein powder BEFORE?!?

Clomid/Nolvadex should be taken after the last shot- about 2 weeks after. You can use during if you start to notice signs of gyno (itchy, puffy nipples and hard patches under the nipple).
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there are much better options than nolva/clomid DURING cycle

amiridex (never tried) seems real good during cycle

aromasin (good stuff, lot less strong than adex though) is good

proviron is fuckin awesome. I'm a believer I love that stuff. Although its real weak so shouldn't be your only line of defense against gyno (always have nolva on hand).
 
Here's what you do with sustanon. I got great results with a sustanon only cycle at 250mg per week. (8kg in 10 weeks that I kept).

250mg per week for 8 weeks then switch to prop for EOD 70mg for another 2 weeks. Then start PCT the second day after your last prop shot.

There are only so many androgen receptors in the body and once they are saturated more steroids will not have a greater effect. Think about it.
 
Id say stack it if u can with something else too. Use susta 250mg twice a week on monday and say thursday. Get sum HCG and sum clenbuterol and start them after u finish ur 8 week cycle of susta. To the above poster stacking different types of roids at the same time will deff help u get better results. Beleive me.

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0709061910.jpg

That was my stack a while ago in Europe. I went from 52kgs to 86ks in less than 3-4 months.
 
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