unlimited t4's..what am i getting into here??

[RiseFromRuin]

ok, so i got an umlim supply of T4's..500 APAP per. i figure i eat 3-5 every other day, for the past few days...and to continue on this pace for the summer. Should i slow down or quit worrying?? also...
1. Avg. street value for these??
2. This shows up in drug tests correct?? how long do i need to be clean for it to show a neg. reaction?? (200 lbs.)
3. What's the pharm the converts codeine into morphine at a much higher rate ( it start with "perth" or permth" or something like that.
also unrelated..any reputable online sites for rits??
thank you much

 

[TheEnigmaX]

Initially I don't believe 1500-2500 mgs of APAP will hurt you but over time I'm sure it may play hell on your liver. Particularily if you take it that often, but there are others on this board who know more on long term consumption of APAP.
Try a cold water extraction method, if I can find the link I'll postit for you. Cold water extraction is a god send it takes an hour or so but it is well worth the wait.
Your tolerance is a different story. Taking T4's (or an other opiate) in that quantity you will cause you not to achieve the same feling on the same amount. Soon 3-5 may not even phase you at all and you'll need a higher dosage, moderation is the key to sucessful highs I'm not sure how quickly codeine buils a tolerance but I'm guessing it doesn't take very long, but have fun and I'll try to get that link for you
[This message has been edited by TheEnigmaX (edited 26 May 2001).]

 

[xylo-]

the chemical that will allow more codeine to be converted to morphine is glutethamide, i'm not sure where you might obtain it. also, i believe there are some (maybe all?) barbiturates which have the same effect (enzyme-inducers of cytochrome P450 CYP2D6).
Anything that is a CYP2D6 substrate will decrease the potency of codeine, such as grapefruit juice, many SSRIs including prozac and paxil, and DXM, so avoid all of these with it

 

[SpeedLimit55]

Use Promethazine...it shouldn't be too tough to come by.

 

[SpeedLimit55]

Oh...and what kinda T3's have 500mg of APAP?

 

[twisted1]

I had a chemist-friend who told me if he ever ran into a unlimited supply of codiene he could turn the codiene into morphine very easily and turn that morphine into a much more...dreamy...substance.

 

[alert]

You need pure codeine to cleanly convert it to morphine.

 

[Roches]

you could extract pure codeine from T4's relatively easily, though not by the old underground differential solubility method.
"extracting the ingredients of an analgesic tablet" is a fairly standard introductory organic procedure and you could extend it to get codeine rather than APAP. with high yields, no less.
it's the second step that poses a problem. methylating morphine to yield codeine is relatively easy, but the reverse is somewhat more difficult. supposing you were able to do that, the hypothetical dreamy substance *is* easy.
i suspect tylenol 4 is not a good substrate for addiction. it's bad for tolerance. and that much APAP is seriously bad for your liver.

 

[PhreeX]

The chemistry is not *THAT* simple.. first you would need to extract all the codeine and do it with almost NOTHING other then the codeine.. you also need pyridine and chloroform, both of which ate not exactly OTC items.. there is a good bit more to it but I dont have the synth at hand...
You're best off doing a massive cold-water extract, drink it down, and enjoy... mix some kool-aid in to kill the bitter flavor..
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[twisted1]

As i said before my friends the chemist not me but if i remember correctly it was something like:
codeine+pyridine=morphine
morphine+aceticanhydride=Happy Days!!!
Good luck trying to find acetic anhydride.
I just threw that tid-bit out in case you happened to know a friend who had a friend who had a brother that might have been able to help you get a little more potent product. Either you or you :-(
And remember never, i repeat, never under any circumstances do anything illegal ;-)