Unknown drug, 4 mls dose, liquid form, info please.

[MOTOMAN]

Ok people!
Well, I was talking to my friends the other week and they told me they had this liquid. They said they got it off a guy that is a weight lifter (some type of steroid maybe?). They had only 4 mls of it and they were trashed, nearly in the same way that strong MDMA pills make you feel. Now I thought at first it could have been ketamine, but they have had that before and they said it was different, more like MDMA. I then thought maybe very strong GHB or some form of that kind of drug, and they said it was kinda the same feeling but still different.
Does anyone have any ideas on what this stuff could be. It's probably getting sold as liquid xtc and maybe it's something new we need to find out about before someone gets hurt. Maybe I am a bit behind and there is already a post on this, but I can't find anything. Thanks guys
[ 25 April 2002: Message edited by: MOTOMAN ]

 

[apollo]

sounds to me likfe 1,4B. or perhaps ghb. usually you find out what the drug is before you buy or take it...

 

[MOTOMAN]

Yeah I was thinking maybe 1,4B aswell....but I mean, how concentrated would it have to be for 4 mls to knock you out! VERY concentrated I guess! Does this happen alot because I have only G in doses of 15-18 mls....and that has a nice effect, but not too strong.
[ 25 April 2002: Message edited by: MOTOMAN ]

 

[Pleonastic]

Yep, definitely - there was some stuff circulating Melbourne a couple of months ago which had a standard dose of 2 - 2.5mls... 4mls of this shit would almost make you pass out...
Basically to aid transport (being illegal and all ) when moving bulk 1,4 it'll be in a concentrated form. Then when the dealer has this and sells it to clients they dilute it with water in a ratio of 1:8 - giving you a standard dose of around 15 - 18 mls as you said...
With this stuff a couple of months ago it was being sold in concentrate form, and was the undoing of quite a lot of people who didn't realise how dose sensitive it was... so when buying GHB or 1,4B make sure to ask the dealer what the concentration is - and if they don't know then either don't buy it or make your first dose about 2mls just to be on the safe side...
[ 25 April 2002: Message edited by: Pleonastic ]

 

[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

Man, no offense, but your friends are stupid enough to take a "unknown" drug, and just hope its the right dose.
Tell em to get some sense.. These are the sort of people who give us (drug users) a bad name.
Chem out.

 

[Biscuit]

People have got to understand there is nothing special about 1,4-butanediol or butylene glycol.
Its an extremely simple chemical and a common solvent. There would be shit loads in chemistry labs and throughout industry across the country.
Its just by a stroke of luck that the body acts like a little chemical factory and processes it into something which has significant effects.
It just so happens that the type everyone found lying on the road somewhere was always 125ml per litre; 12.5%. The rest obviously just water.
You would be an utter fool to assume all 1,4BD is that concentration. The majority would be straight 100% 1,4 not counting the small amount of water and impurities found in all solvents.
Thus 1-2ml of str8 1,4 would be a sufficient dosage; very dangerous indeed. As the 12.5% 1,4 is long gone i would guess that any 1,4 is probably coming from industry in concentrated forms; the concentration u may get it at when it finds its way to you is anyones guess!!
[ 26 April 2002: Message edited by: Biscuit ]

 

[MOTOMAN]

I try to educate all of my friends, some listen, some don't. These are the ones that don't obviously. That's the reason why I asked this question, I'm always concerned about what my friends put into their mouths. Anyway, thanks for the info guys, it's what I was after.