johnnyb420 said:i have read some of that info lets just say it is not easy or basic in fact it is very afvenced if even possible if it was not chenists (sic) would do it and it would be available
haribo1 said:So, adding cinnamyl chloride to oxycodone with a pyridine buffer is DIFFICULT? No, there are numerous strong opiates that are easy to make but not seen except in pills. Why doesn't anyone convert morphine to oxymorphone (this is kitchen sink stuff)? Because everyone is too busy shoving it into veins. SWIM DIYs oxycodone from codeine, but he's not a 'gangsta'. Your average 'gangsta' just sees money. If the value of opiates collapses, so does their profit margin. I mean, look at MDMA, in 1990 it was 15 quid a pill in the UK, now it's 2. People are getting OUT of that game because all the money has gone. Supply and demand means that you will get the drugs you deserve.
Generally, non-addictive drugs are MUCH cheaper than addictive ones because the user can take or leave them. Opiates are a great idea. Get people hooked and they will do almost anything to pay the price you control. Hydromorphone is SO easy to make from morphine that it could easily be done in the fields of Afganestan, but who wants to make the price collapse?
johnnyb420 said:all i am asking for is a link to something that backs up your claim that it is easy to take oxycodone and turn it into something 118 times stronger i looked up that patent but i dont speak or read german and it was a lot more tha one page
haribo1 said:So, adding cinnamyl chloride to oxycodone with a pyridine buffer is DIFFICULT? No, there are numerous strong opiates that are easy to make but not seen except in pills. Why doesn't anyone convert morphine to oxymorphone (this is kitchen sink stuff)? Because everyone is too busy shoving it into veins. SWIM DIYs oxycodone from codeine, but he's not a 'gangsta'. Your average 'gangsta' just sees money. If the value of opiates collapses, so does their profit margin. I mean, look at MDMA, in 1990 it was 15 quid a pill in the UK, now it's 2. People are getting OUT of that game because all the money has gone. Supply and demand means that you will get the drugs you deserve.
Generally, non-addictive drugs are MUCH cheaper than addictive ones because the user can take or leave them. Opiates are a great idea. Get people hooked and they will do almost anything to pay the price you control. Hydromorphone is SO easy to make from morphine that it could easily be done in the fields of Afganestan, but who wants to make the price collapse?