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Ultram, I thought was my friend, but I had a seizure from it 3 days ago!

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This may sound stupid but does anyone know if you can still take Ultram once you've overdosed and had a seizure from it? I take Ultram for chronic tension headaches and back pain and if I take enough of it (about 200 mg.) at a time, every 5 or 6 hours, I feel pretty good. However 3 days ago I had taken a 300 mg timed release Ultram in the morning and then a few hours later took 4 of the 50 mg. Well my husband found me on the floor with my eyes rolled back in my head and bloody dribble coming out of the corner of my mouth where I had bit my tongue, I was admitted to the hospital overnight and had ALOT of tests done, everything pretty much normal. I also take Prozac which I am now discovering increases the seizure risk, Im thinking my doctor should have known this?
 
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Definitely find another medication for your pain.
Don't take Tramadol again.
I'm sure any doctor would prescribe a different pain killer (and IMO any other pain killer is better than Tramadol anyway), once he/she knows that you siezed.
BUT that sentence "I can't get high anymore" is a bit disturbing.
Good luck.
 
Life will get much worse for you if you keep relying on getting high to help you through your issues.

Do yourself a favor and stop with the Tramadol - I am recovering from a nasty dependency, and it was absolute hell.

As shreddedlettuce said above, your doctor will prescribe a different pain killer.
 
Even codeine would be a better choice then tramadol. You can't take more then 400mg's of tramadol in 24 hours safely because of the seizure risk which obviously is what seems to have happened here. Are you on any other medications? Many medications don't mix well with tramadol especially any drug that works on serotonin or lowers the seizure threshold.

In anycase don't take anymore tramadol and go see your doctor for another painkiller.
 
it happened cuz your on antidepressants .you could of got serotonin syndrome.and died. tram already lowers your seizure threshold but mixed with your antidepressant it made you have a seizure. i used to take huge amounts of tram and be fine. but now im on an anti depressant also so now i can not take trams at all.. you need a different pain med. cuz tram is an opiod mixed with some kind of antidepressant.its weird.you do not want tooo much serotonin in your system.

now i take oxys xanax and mirtazapine almost everyday and im fine.but i do not recommend ever mixing drugs for safety purposes even though i have done it many times. so maybe try hydros with your med. but i do not recommend mixing drugs.know your body know your limit read up on your shit

peace and love
 
but it sucks i have access to a bunch of free trams for when im withdrawling feelin like im dyin from opioid addiction but i cant take it or i could get serotonin syndrom or seiz.cuz im on anti depessants now cuz i have depression/anxiety issues.so i just have to suffer til i get more money. or i take a break and get clean from oxy which is 4 days of hell with wd
 
Along with being a mild Mu opioid receptor agonist tramadol also has SNRI properties so it sort of resembles cymbalta (duloxetine) in the way it works on serotonin and norepinephrine. Taking it with Prozac could definitely raise the risk of serotonin syndrome and lower the seizure threshold. In anycase you still shouldn't take over 400mg's in the run of a day.
 
Im going to my doctors today for back pain and ill most likely get tramadol as codeine gives me ulcers. I usually take 450 mgs when I want to feel effects and I also take abilify for ocd. Will abilify lower my seizure threshold or increase my chance of having one?
 
Brandasaur said:
Im going to my doctors today for back pain and ill most likely get tramadol as codeine gives me ulcers. I usually take 450 mgs when I want to feel effects and I also take abilify for ocd. Will abilify lower my seizure threshold or increase my chance of having one?
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Abilify does lower the seizure threshold so i certainly would not mix tramadol with it. Codeine as far as i know does not cause ulcers but some of the stuff mixed in with it such as aspirin and ibuprofen do cause ulcers. Acetaminophen has it's dangers such as liver damage but it does not cause ulcers.

Codeine is bad for causing nausea but i don't think any opiates can cause ulcers unlike NSAIDS like ibuprofen, naproxyn, diclofenac, etc. If you can't take codeine hydrocodone or oxycodone would be the next logical ones to try and you don't have to worry about seizures or serotonin syndrome.
 
paranoid android said:
Abilify does lower the seizure threshold so i certainly would not mix tramadol with it. Codeine as far as i know does not cause ulcers but some of the stuff mixed in with it such as aspirin and ibuprofen do cause ulcers. Acetaminophen has it's dangers such as liver damage but it does not cause ulcers.
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Yes APAP can, APAP (aka acetaminophen, Tylenol or paracetemol) can cause or worsen ulcers, stomach bleeding and other upper gastrointestinal complications. Especially when taken in high doses (over 2g a day), long-term, or by people who are sensitive or already have stomach issues. But yeah, opioids such as codeine shouldn't cause ulcers or stomach damage, it's the other ingredients like NSAIDs or APAP that are commonly mixed in with weaker opioids like codeine and hydrocodone that cause these problems. But many people do seem to find codeine to cause more nausea than other opioids - is that what you meant Brandasaur?

If you are getting these prescribed by your doctor perhaps you could tell him/her your concerns about seizures and see ulcers and see if he/she will prescribe you something else. It's not a good idea to be taking 450mg of Tramadol, and taking it while on Abilify will make it even riskier. If you are given hydrocodone with APAP or something you could remove the APAP with a CWE.
 
The doctore said it was codeine ruining my stomach as I take acetominephine all the time with no problem. But im also on valium which stops seisures so im thinking its ok
 
Well codeine can certainly cause negative and horrible side effects in your gi tract, but this is down to common opiate side effects like nausea, constipation which in turn can cause horrendous cramps if it gets bad enough. However, codeine does not cause irritation and damage to the stomach/intestinal lining like nsaids do, so any negative effects felt from codeine are almost certainly not from physical damage and will disappear when u stop taking it.
Definitely shop around for alternative pain meds, tramadol is known to cause seizures and those who do seize from it are likely to seize again from an even lower dose, your brain has just been shown a new trick and will remember it. If you're dead against codeine why not ask about dihydrocodine? I think its much better than both the others.
 
My god Tramadol needs to go back where it came from, the vet's office. Such little pain management benefit yet such huge risks and addiction potential.

Any doctor that prescribes Tramadol with any other sort of SSRI, SNRI or anything, really needs to be reviewed. I am so sick of seeing these posts.

400mg or less of Tramadol a day or less, it doesn't matter. I heard of people taking 300mg, getting to close to a television screen and waking up with a paramedics over them. This is getting inane.
 
^yup. A friend of mine took 350 and felt fine until about 5 hours later when he had a can of redbull, woke up in the ambulance!!
 
whippa craka said:
My god Tramadol needs to go back where it came from, the vet's office. Such little pain management benefit yet such huge risks and addiction potential.

Any doctor that prescribes Tramadol with any other sort of SSRI, SNRI or anything, really needs to be reviewed. I am so sick of seeing these posts.

400mg or less of Tramadol a day or less, it doesn't matter. I heard of people taking 300mg, getting to close to a television screen and waking up with a paramedics over them. This is getting inane.
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I was actually taking to my doctor about tramadol earlier the summer. I forget how it came up but he said "christ that stuff seems to cause way worse physical dependance then morphine". This goes along with what people who i know who have been addicted to tram have told me as well.

I have a feeling that in a decade or so tramadol will go the way of (dextro)propoxyphene aka Darvon. A shitty addictive dangerous drug that does fuck all for pain.
 
It really seems to be the u-opiod and SSRI combination. Not to mention the SNRI effects it has when it is first kicking in. It really is one hell of a drug.

Any SSRI or drug that has a combination of such just seems to be dirty. They cause all sorts of problems.
 
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