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Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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whip_cream said:
hey dorkchop how many grams would you say it takes for someone with no tolerence to opiates, and to someone with kinda of a tolerence to opiates? (i wasnt feeling much from 50mg oxys, so thats little/midium tolerence i gues)
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With the small pods going around right now:

No tolerance - 8 to 12 grams
Medium tolerance - 24 grams to start; titrated up in 12 gram incriments from there til you feel good.
 
Dorkchop or whip_cream, I'm pretty new to blue light so can't send PMs, just receive them. I'd love the tip whip_cream mentions above if either of you have a chance to PM me. Definitely lots of thin walled pods around these days. I have found thick walls are definitely a good pod trait..elusive these days.
Thanks!


Notme13
 
jamesBrown said:
I kinda just jumped into this thread a second ago and I dont have the eergy to read all the posts, but I do notice you are talking about opiate(opiod) induced constipation and I can tell you from personal experience, if you are having ANY kind of constipation that can be considered worse than average(like you poop only 1-2 times a week, maybe 3 times) then you definitely should get that checked out.....atleast after you have allready tried stool softeners, laxatives, etc....
I say this(and I know its a little off topic) because I am going through the most horrific, pain-filled, hell-like experience because I neglected my opiate induced constipation for a few months and it turns out I have a MASSIVE block of shit backed up all the way into my small intestine, and according to the doctor in the E.R. your shit is never supposed to be in the small intestine once its fully formed. Not only has it clogged my ability to poop, but it is the size of a softballl(maybe larger he said, and I am unable to take a shit anymore. I havent had a bowel movement in over a week, and before that I was only crapping once a week for 5 months....so you can imagine how much shit is up there.....its the really compacted shit fyi.

Theres a good chance im gonna have to go to the hospital to have them surgically cut open my gut and my intestines and remove this massive piece of poop before it completely tears my intestines apart(they are allready tearing).

I am in the worst pain of my life. More pain than I thought existed in this world and its been going on for 2 weeks now...and it keeps getting worse.

i guess my point is, if your having trouble with constipation from opiate use, PLEASE make sure you keep track of it very carefully because you might end up like me...not being able to eat, walk, llie down, sleep, think properly, crap, ....basically anything that involves moving my body and some things that dont, Its absolutely unbearable and I wouldnt wish this pain on anyone, so pease be carefull.
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Wow, what a story. I am truly sorry, that is awful.

I am on about the same bupe regimen as you, the only opioid I take is bupe and I take about 2mg split up into about 5 doses that I take throughout the day. I know that even with this relatively low dose of bupe really constipates me terribly.

The only thing that I have found that helps is that I use a fleet enema about 3 times a week. Let's say I use an enema on Monday- and ton of feces seem to be washed out of me. I will then start to feel a "clogged up" by Wednesday or Thursday. I will then use an enema again and wash out the feces that accumulated over the previous few days.

I know that using enemas this frequently can cause someone to become dependent on them and basically unable to have a bowel movement without one. Unfortunately, I suspect that this is a better option then simply letting nature take its course and possibly ending up with terribly impacted stool.
Does anyone know if I am doing any damage to myself by using fleet enemas (basically salt water enemas) this often?

I am also surprised that you ended up with such a serious problem. It seems like nearly every opioid user on this site complains that they only have a bowel movement like once a week or less. I just don't get why you had a problem considering the fact that you stated you have been going 2-3 times per week. So many ppl here claim they won't go for 2 weeks at a time!!!

Also, I am confused about how you were able to have ANY bowel movement when you had an impacted stool blocking the way. How were your feces able to get past this obstruction?

Lastly, what finally made you aware that you had a problem and needed to get checked out. What symptoms did you have, and how were they able to diagnose the obstruction? Colonoscopy?

Good luck and keep us updated.
 
daddysgone said:
Wow, what a story. I am truly sorry, that is awful.

I am on about the same bupe regimen as you, the only opioid I take is bupe and I take about 2mg split up into about 5 doses that I take throughout the day. I know that even with this relatively low dose of bupe really constipates me terribly.

The only thing that I have found that helps is that I use a fleet enema about 3 times a week. Let's say I use an enema on Monday- and ton of feces seem to be washed out of me. I will then start to feel a "clogged up" by Wednesday or Thursday. I will then use an enema again and wash out the feces that accumulated over the previous few days.

I know that using enemas this frequently can cause someone to become dependent on them and basically unable to have a bowel movement without one. Unfortunately, I suspect that this is a better option then simply letting nature take its course and possibly ending up with terribly impacted stool.
Does anyone know if I am doing any damage to myself by using fleet enemas (basically salt water enemas) this often?

I am also surprised that you ended up with such a serious problem. It seems like nearly every opioid user on this site complains that they only have a bowel movement like once a week or less. I just don't get why you had a problem considering the fact that you stated you have been going 2-3 times per week. So many ppl here claim they won't go for 2 weeks at a time!!!

Also, I am confused about how you were able to have ANY bowel movement when you had an impacted stool blocking the way. How were your feces able to get past this obstruction?

Lastly, what finally made you aware that you had a problem and needed to get checked out. What symptoms did you have, and how were they able to diagnose the obstruction? Colonoscopy?

Good luck and keep us updated.
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Thank you for your concern.

First of all, I stated I was only going 1 time a week, not 2 or 3, I just said that if you are going 1-2-3 times a week only, you might wanna get checked out to be safe.....But I was only going once a week, sometimes less, for several months straight....so I was just being cautious and telling people that even if they are going 2-3 times a week, that they might want to be careful too. I think you just misunderstood a little, or maybe I wrote it in a way that was hard to understand, sry.

Also...the reason I was able to have a bowel movement at all, even if it was only once a week, was because it WAS the impacted feces that I was passing. Whenever I shit, it would be extremely painfull, difficult, slow, and the shit would be extremely hard and a little bloody.....so basically it WAS part of the poop that had been in there a while it just took a massive amount of effort to get even a little bit of it out. I was also on ungodly amounts of laxatives and stool softeners, etc....and that was probably the ONLY reason I was even able to shit once a week, otherwise I probably would have been COMPLETELY stopped up. And when I shit it was in tiny amounts, so I pretty much was 98% stopped up.

The reason i became aware of my serious problem was basically one day I woke up in the most severe pain of my life. i was screaming, crying, moaning, and begging for someone to kill me. The weird thing was though, it wasnt my gut that hurt, it was my lower spine/back. I felt like I broke my back basically. I couldnt stand/walk, I couldnt lie down in any comfortable position, I couldnt sit down in any comfortable position....basically I was in pure hell. I went to a chiropractor, and he diagnosed me with atrophied muscles around my lower spine because I was an athlete for 16 years and then the past few months(during my post heroin addiction stage) I have been very sedentary and havent done much because I didnt want to see old heroin buddies and get back in the game. Anyway, the lack of activity cause my muscles to atrophy(degrade) and they couldnt support my spine anymore and my discs were pinching together and causing SEVERE nerve pain.

I decided to go to a chiropractor 3 times a week instead of going to a doctor to get medications/painkillers because I knew I would get opiates and I dont want that. But, on my second visit to the chiro, I was in sooooooooooooo much pain it took me 15 minutes to walf 20 feet to the door of the chiro office, and thats with a big man helping me along. I was screaming and crying so loud because I have never felt pain like that before. I literally was thinking of ways I could kill myself quickly so I could end this hell. no joke. Anyway, the chiropractor took one look at me and told me to go to the ER cuz he said I shouldnt be in that much pain.
At the ER they did a CAT(spelling??) scan and it showed the massive fecal impaction and so they gave me a shitload of medical grade laxatives and stool softeners, etc.....and guess what....NO PAINKILLERS. I was screaming and crying and they refused to help me out because of my history of drug abuse. I was enraged beyond belief to say the least. I literally wanted to kill my doctor(s) and then kill myself because of the pain i was in. I cant stress enough how much this hurt.
Anyway, I eventuallly had to go back to the ER a few days later because the stool softeners werent doing anythign and I still hadnt had a bowel movement, and they basically had to manually remove it using a sort of un-invasive surgery......it was just over 5 ft long....the first couple feet was really black, hard, and dry poop(the shit that had been in there months), and then the rest was realllly soft and yellowish and bloody because that was the newer poop that had been effected by all the medications I had been taking.
Anyway, i was still in unbelievable pain but they refused to give me painkillers.
I literally couldnt eat for 2 weeks because of the pain and couldnt sleep for almost 2 weeks straight as well.....I lookedlike a zombie, and I had lost 15 pounds during the two week period.....which is odd cuz I hadnt been able to even poop, so you would think I would be gaining weight, but no, because of the intense pain, I was basically wasting away.
Anyway, its been a few days now and the pain is getting worse, so Im pretty sure my chiropractor was right about the muscle atrophy and I just happened to have fecal impaction at the same time....otherwise the pain would of atleast gone down by now. Anyway, I spend every day of my life screaming and crying and moaning in pain and begging for someone to kill me.....seriously people, this is the worst pain imaginable. It feel like I got shot in the spine with a shotgun, and then a bunch of people starting beating my spine with bats, and then i got an arrow shot into my back......and im not exxagerating....i want to die.

The only reason I can post for an hour or two a day is because I bought some klonopin off the street and use that to help relax my muscles so I can barely sit here for a short while each day to try and get my mind off of the hell im going through.
My parents are so afraid im going to die because i still havent been able to eat and have now lost 20 pounds total(down to 130 from 150 and im a 6ft tall male....so im extremely underweight). and I havent slept more than 2 hrs in about 15 days. I spend my time crying and wanting to kill myself because I cant afford to keep going back to these hospitals where they probably wont even help me anyway. They think im just trying to get a fix or soem shit, I dont know, but even when they see me crying in excruciating pain, they just shrug there shoulders and say I shouldnt be feeling like that and walk off. FUCKING PIGS!!
So as soon as my family gets enough money again, ewre going to go around to different hospitals and try to find one who will help me out. Cuz im seriously about to either waste away, or kill myself....theres only so much pain someone can take without deciding its not worth living anymore, and considering its almost been a month of hell, I would say I have been very strong and have lasted quite a while, but I will not last much longer.

wish me luck and sry for the long post.
 
No sourcing or pricing. You've been around long enough to know better.

How the hell is sourcing telling people about google? This is bullshit I didn't mention a single source and you mods know damn well I didn't source neither.

I'll take the lame pricing comment however. Cause we all know some newbie is gonna go hurt themself just because I write out a numeric dollar amount.
 
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That's some serious stuff JB, probably deserving of its own thread...I really hope you're feeling better soon.

My issue is not as dire, but I was very violently sick after my last pod tea session. (about a week ago now). Like throwing up every 15 minutes for 8 hours kill me horrible sick. Now I'm scared to make more tea becuase there was nothing special that I remember about my last batch that would have tipped me off in terms of mold, etc. My question is this: was I just really unlucky, or are people getting sick more lately as a result of the decline in quality of the pods.

This is the first time I had an issue...probably about the 50th time I made tea, but if I get that sick 2% of the time I drink pod tea, its not worth it to me, especially with the high prices lately. My best guess as to why it happened is that lately I haven't been throwing out every pod that looks questionable on the outside, because they each cost more, and I have been seeing a higher percentage of pods with irregular black spots on the outside. But none that I used had any characteristic or blantant (sp) mold on the inside that everyone seems to be scared of......Does anyone have any theories or advice?
 
Bojangles69 said:
No sourcing or pricing. You've been around long enough to know better.

How the hell is sourcing telling people about google? This is bullshit I didn't mention a single source and you mods know damn well I didn't source neither.

I'll take the lame pricing comment however. Cause we all know some newbie is gonna go hurt themself just because I write out a numeric dollar amount.
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I'd just like to say I read this thread before it was mod deleted and it was ridiculously super long and must of had like 4 hours and 2 cups of pride put into it :D :D :D
 
VERY common. Don't worry about it; I've found my pelvic muscles go haywire a lot of the time I'm on opiods: I think I've squeezed that last little bit out, then pull my pants up and piss myself a little. Just one of the many side effects to that wonderful class of drugs!
 
I don't have access to a coffee grinder and was wondering if using a blender does the job just as well for making tea?
 
so, a friend of mine, (really, i'm trying to stick to non-opiate substance only lately, heh, its a step)

so a friend of mine who i used to eat pods with all the time last year, usually mediums/larges, purportedly from AZ, in doses up to 30 ground pods (he's never had the chance to weigh, but it seems like about a cup and a half-2 cups per dose of grounds) for a period of time of about 6 months.... anyway, he had since totally quit opiates (or so i had thought) during the summer pod drought, and he didn't feel like looking forsources for diverted pharmies....today, he ground up 25+-pods, which equalled around 14 teaspoons of grounds, and gulped down the pods....no obviously,i tried to get him to start smaller, but all these reports of bad potency and the fact that he only got enough for 1-2 doses anyway had him searching for that old high.... i made sure and get some naloxone tablets, and have those on hand in case he gets sick,but he's hoping for a strong high...obviously, this is not recommended,and is not meant to be dick sizing, more of a report on his high dose of medium pods (small-3"circumferance, 1"diameter") for others reference
 
in fact, what would you guys say he could expect from this dose?

he told me he ate 240mg of morphine yesterday in the form of mscontin, so he obviously has SOME tolerance, although I recon that dose to equal about 50-60mg of absorbed morphine over a long period, which this dose should outshine quite considerably, right?

I'm not trying to be shifty, this really is a friend consuming these poppies, I'd tell ya if I were
 
So how many pods would one want to start off with if I take 120mg's of oxycodone a day, I know it depends on the potency of the pods. But what's a good number and will the high be the same as taking morphine pills or what?
 
jamesBrown said:
Thank you for your concern.

First of all, I stated I was only going 1 time a week, not 2 or 3, I just said that if you are going 1-2-3 times a week only, you might wanna get checked out to be safe.....But I was only going once a week, sometimes less, for several months straight....so I was just being cautious and telling people that even if they are going 2-3 times a week, that they might want to be careful too. I think you just misunderstood a little, or maybe I wrote it in a way that was hard to understand, sry.

Also...the reason I was able to have a bowel movement at all, even if it was only once a week, was because it WAS the impacted feces that I was passing. Whenever I shit, it would be extremely painfull, difficult, slow, and the shit would be extremely hard and a little bloody.....so basically it WAS part of the poop that had been in there a while it just took a massive amount of effort to get even a little bit of it out. I was also on ungodly amounts of laxatives and stool softeners, etc....and that was probably the ONLY reason I was even able to shit once a week, otherwise I probably would have been COMPLETELY stopped up. And when I shit it was in tiny amounts, so I pretty much was 98% stopped up.

The reason i became aware of my serious problem was basically one day I woke up in the most severe pain of my life. i was screaming, crying, moaning, and begging for someone to kill me. The weird thing was though, it wasnt my gut that hurt, it was my lower spine/back. I felt like I broke my back basically. I couldnt stand/walk, I couldnt lie down in any comfortable position, I couldnt sit down in any comfortable position....basically I was in pure hell. I went to a chiropractor, and he diagnosed me with atrophied muscles around my lower spine because I was an athlete for 16 years and then the past few months(during my post heroin addiction stage) I have been very sedentary and havent done much because I didnt want to see old heroin buddies and get back in the game. Anyway, the lack of activity cause my muscles to atrophy(degrade) and they couldnt support my spine anymore and my discs were pinching together and causing SEVERE nerve pain.

I decided to go to a chiropractor 3 times a week instead of going to a doctor to get medications/painkillers because I knew I would get opiates and I dont want that. But, on my second visit to the chiro, I was in sooooooooooooo much pain it took me 15 minutes to walf 20 feet to the door of the chiro office, and thats with a big man helping me along. I was screaming and crying so loud because I have never felt pain like that before. I literally was thinking of ways I could kill myself quickly so I could end this hell. no joke. Anyway, the chiropractor took one look at me and told me to go to the ER cuz he said I shouldnt be in that much pain.
At the ER they did a CAT(spelling??) scan and it showed the massive fecal impaction and so they gave me a shitload of medical grade laxatives and stool softeners, etc.....and guess what....NO PAINKILLERS. I was screaming and crying and they refused to help me out because of my history of drug abuse. I was enraged beyond belief to say the least. I literally wanted to kill my doctor(s) and then kill myself because of the pain i was in. I cant stress enough how much this hurt.
Anyway, I eventuallly had to go back to the ER a few days later because the stool softeners werent doing anythign and I still hadnt had a bowel movement, and they basically had to manually remove it using a sort of un-invasive surgery......it was just over 5 ft long....the first couple feet was really black, hard, and dry poop(the shit that had been in there months), and then the rest was realllly soft and yellowish and bloody because that was the newer poop that had been effected by all the medications I had been taking.
Anyway, i was still in unbelievable pain but they refused to give me painkillers.
I literally couldnt eat for 2 weeks because of the pain and couldnt sleep for almost 2 weeks straight as well.....I lookedlike a zombie, and I had lost 15 pounds during the two week period.....which is odd cuz I hadnt been able to even poop, so you would think I would be gaining weight, but no, because of the intense pain, I was basically wasting away.
Anyway, its been a few days now and the pain is getting worse, so Im pretty sure my chiropractor was right about the muscle atrophy and I just happened to have fecal impaction at the same time....otherwise the pain would of atleast gone down by now. Anyway, I spend every day of my life screaming and crying and moaning in pain and begging for someone to kill me.....seriously people, this is the worst pain imaginable. It feel like I got shot in the spine with a shotgun, and then a bunch of people starting beating my spine with bats, and then i got an arrow shot into my back......and im not exxagerating....i want to die.

The only reason I can post for an hour or two a day is because I bought some klonopin off the street and use that to help relax my muscles so I can barely sit here for a short while each day to try and get my mind off of the hell im going through.
My parents are so afraid im going to die because i still havent been able to eat and have now lost 20 pounds total(down to 130 from 150 and im a 6ft tall male....so im extremely underweight). and I havent slept more than 2 hrs in about 15 days. I spend my time crying and wanting to kill myself because I cant afford to keep going back to these hospitals where they probably wont even help me anyway. They think im just trying to get a fix or soem shit, I dont know, but even when they see me crying in excruciating pain, they just shrug there shoulders and say I shouldnt be feeling like that and walk off. FUCKING PIGS!!
So as soon as my family gets enough money again, ewre going to go around to different hospitals and try to find one who will help me out. Cuz im seriously about to either waste away, or kill myself....theres only so much pain someone can take without deciding its not worth living anymore, and considering its almost been a month of hell, I would say I have been very strong and have lasted quite a while, but I will not last much longer.

wish me luck and sry for the long post.
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Man, I feel you. 9 years ago I went to the ER for an impacted bowel and they gave me that nasty medical grade laxative. I had to drink a gallon of it in a fucking gallon milk jug, and every three sips I was throwing it up on myself in the hospital bed. After all that, this fifty year old African lady came in and still stuck an enema up my ass before the surgery.
 
I just wanted to throw this out while we're talking about opiate related constipation...I've found that if you're at the point where oral laxatives or stool softeners aren't working, but you don't want to necessarily go through the work of making and administering an enema, I've found that glycerin suppositories are actually very effective. I recall one instance in which I was almost sure I was going to have to go to the doctor due to being stopped up, and in a last ditch effort I got some of these suppositories and used 2 of em...and although it was still tough I finally managed to shoot (yes, shoot) out what I figured out was a mass that was a little smaller than a softball. I was pretty happy to have not needed to go to the doctor, even if the whole event did result in one of the longest toilet-plunging sessions I've ever seen.
 
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