UK - Weed out cannabis or we'll be stuck with Cypress Hill

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Belfast Telegraph

By Grace Dent
Friday, 31 August 2012

With reader comments

It's official: heavy cannabis use as a teenager makes us stupider adults, knocking an average of eight points off your IQ.

For today's grown-ups, those are the missing points fooling you into remembering Cypress Hill's whiny stoner dirge as 'really excellent music' (it doesn't, it sounds like a man with sinusitis reading sections of the phonebook), or believe Up In Smoke by Cheech and Chong is a comedy classic.
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Dear God, I saw the greatest minds of my generation fail their A-Levels and then sit in a ropey tattoo parlour having a green cannabis leaf inked onto a forearm with 'Legalise cannabis' beneath.
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More...
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/o...well-be-stuck-with-cypress-hill-16204198.html
 
For today's grown-ups, those are the missing points fooling you into remembering Cypress Hill's whiny stoner dirge as 'really excellent music' (it doesn't, it sounds like a man with sinusitis reading sections of the phonebook)
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Does she mean I Love You Mary Jane or Hits from the Bong? Both are excellent. The former is actually a collaboration between Cypress Hill and Sonic Youth, from the Judgement Night soundtrack (great album).
 
Pointless article but I have to agree there are more meaningful subcultures to get involved in. Becoming a hipster or pothead these days is little more than a passive reaction to the ennui shared by all the lost youth in decadent society, but that's for another essay.
 
thujone said:
Pointless article but I have to agree there are more meaningful subcultures to get involved in. Becoming a hipster or pothead these days is little more than a passive reaction to the ennui shared by all the lost youth in decadent society, but that's for another essay.
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People find and create meaning in their lives in different ways.
It seems pretty confident - overly confident, if you ask me - to judge which subcultures are meaningful, and which aren't.
Not that I would never do so, I have to confess. :o
But I think it is important to recognize that some potheads are able to contribute to society, some create beautiful art or music or help science progress, and some don't. Some lift up the spirits of those around them through always adopting a positive outlook, and others are quite the opposite.

There are those who behave in ways that you or I might see as "becoming a pothead" for very different reasons.
They might not see themselves as being a pothead at all.
Others might see themselves as potheads/hipsters, but you and I wouldn't consider them to be so.

And re-making one's social identity is not a passive reaction to anything in most cases, I would argue, but an active establishment of a perspective and group identity.
Whether becoming a pothead or hipster is a reaction to the ennui of youth in a decadent society is somewhat arguable, but I generally agree. However, I would hesitate to judge all individual cases as examples of this.
 
poledriver said:
^ Yeah its much cooler to be a meth head these days.
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damn you, breaking bad!

haha but yeah, I mean I think the stoner culture is kind of dumb. By that I mean that ones life revolving around recreational marijuana use isn't a good thing. I've lived that life and let me tell you, it wasn't a good one. I didn't wear weed logos or anything like that but I did absolutely nothing worth anything for that time in my life.

This isn't to say cannabis use can't result in positive things, just that it can result in negative things but that's just like any other drug.
 
I must reiterate how irrelevant someone's viewpoint is when they regard Cypress Hill as the aesthetic equivalent of Cheech and Chong...
 
If you read the whole article, you'll see its just some whiny girl lamenting how her pothead boyfriend dumped her. And thus declaring that cannabis has no value whatsoever.

Top notch journalism right there.
 
slimvictor said:
People find and create meaning in their lives in different ways.
It seems pretty confident - overly confident, if you ask me - to judge which subcultures are meaningful, and which aren't.
Not that I would never do so, I have to confess. :o
But I think it is important to recognize that some potheads are able to contribute to society, some create beautiful art or music or help science progress, and some don't. Some lift up the spirits of those around them through always adopting a positive outlook, and others are quite the opposite.

There are those who behave in ways that you or I might see as "becoming a pothead" for very different reasons.
They might not see themselves as being a pothead at all.
Others might see themselves as potheads/hipsters, but you and I wouldn't consider them to be so.

And re-making one's social identity is not a passive reaction to anything in most cases, I would argue, but an active establishment of a perspective and group identity.
Whether becoming a pothead or hipster is a reaction to the ennui of youth in a decadent society is somewhat arguable, but I generally agree. However, I would hesitate to judge all individual cases as examples of this.
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Yes, I suppose affirming one's identity is more of an active thing. No doubt potheads go on to contribute to society, I just have doubts about that occuring to any great relevance until after they shed that pothead image and allot more priority to their other interests. It makes me wonder if the people who do 'make it big' might have even wider horizons if they had been involved in something else during the period in which they were a pothead. That question visits me a fair bit from the shattered spectre of my own past.
 
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