UK - Smart drugs: would you try them?

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Tom Newham
Wednesday 24 October 2012 12.09 BST

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Modafinil is one of a number of performance-enhancing smart drugs that can be found online. It gives a sensation of natural wakefulness for hours at a time, without the jittery buzz and disrupted sleep associated with caffeine. It also sharpens the mind, boosts memory and aids problem-solving: the Ministry of Defence shipped thousands of pills to tired soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq. They certainly work. While I was dozing off, bored senseless by revision, my mates were more focused than a Buddhist monk mid-meditaton.

But Modafinil does more than just keep you awake. I asked a friend who tried it out to describe his experience.

"It messes with your mental reward system," he said. "It makes you desperate to do what you know you actually need to do. You just don't want to do anything else. I wanted to revise all the time, non-stop."

Professor Barbara Sahakian, a leading neuroscientist at the University of Cambridge, explained it to me in scientific terms: "Our recent study published in Neuropharmacology suggests that healthy people use smart drugs, like Modafinil, to get down to and complete tasks that they have been putting off, because these tasks seem more enjoyable when taking these drugs."

A spokesperson for the charity DrugScope says Modafinil is a prescription-only medication but not a controlled substance, so it is not illegal to be caught in possession of it. However, under the Medicines act, it is an offence to supply, which includes everything from wholesale dealing to simply giving some to a friend.

Ritalin, however, is a controlled substance under the Misuse of Drugs act, the spokesperson says. Possession of it without a prescription is illegal and it is a Class B drug.

A BBC survey found that of those people who had tried smart drugs before, 92% would do so again. My friends say they'd happily do so, maintaining that they're not put off by the health risks.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/mortarboard/2012/oct/24/smart-drugs-would-you-try-them
 
"smart drug" is a misnomer. It's a euphemism for stimulant. I had a huge argument about this the other day. Show me one drug that has been proven to improve test performance in healthy adults:
 
Modafinil is an amazing drug, it's all the positives of amphetamines (the practical ones anyway, no real recreational effects) with very few of the negatives, it feels like some kind of miracle pill when you first try it. Imo they're playing up the personality effects, it did make me a little bit on edge if I took it for more than a few days in a row, but other than that and the occasional headache, it made me feel amazing and helped me through a really difficult period of post-illness chronic fatigue. It sounds like they're really reaching for something to make it sound spooky and dangerous, just to justify the article.
 
I knew people in college who took Modafinil but they stopped since it messed with their sleep cycle. I have never taken it or any other pharm nootropics.

I was doing research on nootropics and on wikipedia of all places they claimed that B vitamins, Omega 3's, Vitamin D, SSRIs, amphetamines, and even THC and nicotine are nootropics or in their section on nootropics.

When I have projects or studying to do I just drink some Earl Grey tea or coffee. I used to drink large amounts of caffeine daily 3 cups of green tea and 2-6 cups of coffee at times but now I just drink 1 cup of green tea daily and have 1-2 cups of coffee a week.
 
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Yeah... I have to agree with the above. There is no drug that makes you smarter. I mainly use nootropics when I know about I'm about to do something really mentally taxing (like writing a 4 hour board exam) and I want my body to send more resource to my brain. It makes my mind more stimulated and efficient, but after the effect wears off I'm pretty spent. It's also taxing on the body because your brain makes more demands of your digestive system to provide more nutrition for all the catabolisis.
 
Ginkgo + Ginseng makes my mind feel a lot more clearer and easier to read + understand notes etc. Ritalin just speeds up my thought process and lets me remember things a whole lot easier. I wouldn't say it makes me smarter, just quicker and not having to read over notes a thousand times to fully get it into my head but only use it in emergency cramming really. Otherwise ginkgo + ginseng and some good old exercise works fine :)
Wish I could get nootropics here though...
 
Ritalin just speeds up my thought process and lets me remember things a whole lot easier.

Ritalin calms my thoughts down and makes them easier to organise, and lets me choose what I focus my attention on a bit better. At the dose I'm prescribed anyway, higher doses would probably speed my thoughts up.
 
"smart drug" is a misnomer. It's a euphemism for stimulant. I had a huge argument about this the other day. Show me one drug that has been proven to improve test performance in healthy adults:

Wait - I though of one!
It is exercise - shown to improve test performance in healthy kids (at least - probably adults, too, though I don't remember for sure).
But maybe exercise should be considered a drug-delivery system?
 
There was a recent article posted in DITM which concluded that exercise essentially carries the magnitude of effect of a drug.
 
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"smart drug" is a misnomer. It's a euphemism for stimulant. I had a huge argument about this the other day.

In this case, yes. However, in general? Maybe not. If it's shown that various AMPAkanes, cholinergics, and piracetam derivatives do show a reproducible pro-cognitive effect, I don't think that it would be correct to class them with other stimulants.

Modafinil is an amazing drug, it's all the positives of amphetamines (the practical ones anyway, no real recreational effects) with very few of the negatives, it feels like some kind of miracle pill when you first try it.

I dunno. For me, modafinil feels nearly like having gotten enough sleep if taken when one hasn't. That's the miracle, just how transparent it is. However, if I am fully rested, it seems to have little effect on me. It doesn't enhance my motivation or concentration to a great extent, but it's a dandy alertness aid.

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If it's shown that various AMPAkanes, cholinergics, and piracetam derivatives do show a reproducible pro-cognitive effect...

For healthy adults, that's a pretty big if (last time I checked). But I think for people with cognitive deficits, galantamine and one of the racetams have borne fruit. But, I suppose, so has cocaine.
 
How haven't I heard of this drug?.. I'm calling my doc tomorrow to get a script for this stuff.

meditation and exercise combined

that's potent for sure

Sometimes you just need something more though. I ride ~40-50 miles a week on my bike, which is ~40 mins of cardio 3 or 4 times a week. Sure, I'd love to do twice that, but as a college student, I simply don't have the time. If I can take a performance enhancing drug like the one being discussed here and finish my work in 4 hours rather than 6 due to increased attention, then maybe I'll have time to ride for 80 minutes rather than 40. And maybe it'll help me ride harder and farther than before.

Of course replacing healthy activities with drug use, simply because the drugs are easier, is a bad idea. The mentality of "cool, now I can fuck around for hours on end and still finish my shit because I can function on 3 hours of sleep" is dangerous, of course. And I dare say you deserve whatever consequences you suffer if that's how you treat yourself.
 
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