UK - Killer pill bought online for just £9 (AMT)

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Scot D'Arcy
8:10am Thursday 1st August 2013

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THE killer drug linked to the death of a young father-of-three can be bought on the internet for less than £10 as its supply into the town goes unchecked. Alpha-methyltriptamine, better known as AMT, was the suspected cause of 23-year-old Chris Scott’s death last week, after police analysed a pill in his possession.

Chris, of Charfield Close, Park South, died at the Great Western Hospital on Wednesday after being taken to hospital by paramedics shortly after 6pm on Monday. It is thought he collapsed at his home after taking a small green pill with a dollar sign on it and forensic tests on a tablet found in his possession, which was first thought to be a contaminated illegal drug, has since been confirmed as AMT.

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The PoisonReview.com
ERIC-3: a new “legal high” — but what is it?
July 31, 2013, 7:24 pm

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Abstract

The authors retrospectively reviewed case notes to identify patients seen in their emergency department (Great Western Hospital, Swindon, UK) during the months August 2011 thru January 2012 with a history of ingesting a “legal high” called “Eric-3″. They found 41 visits representing 18 patients. (One patient was seen 11 times for exposure to the drug.)

There were 2 deaths. The most frequent effects documented were agitation and tachycardia.Hyperthermia with temperature > 38oC was recorded in almost a quarter of the patients.

Unfortunately, analytical tests to identify drug(s) involved were performed in only one case — one of the patients who died. In that case, α-methyltryptamine and 3-/4-fluoroephedrine were found in the blood. We have no clear evidence what drugs the other 17 patients were exposed to, a major flaw.

α-methyltryptamine was studied in the 1960s for potential use as an antidepressant. It is a powerful psychedelic and has been associated with a previous fatality. There is no medical literature about 3-/4-fluoroepedrine, a drug that is not even mentioned on erowid.org. (Eric-3 is also not mentioned on Erowid.) In an interesting abstract (#198 here), researchers from Great Britain tested pooled urine collected from 2 urinals at a July 2012 festival in the North West of England. 4-fluoroephedrine was detected in both samples.
http://www.thepoisonreview.com/2013/07/31/eric-3-a-new-legal-high-but-what-is-it
 
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People need to be more conscience of what the fuck they put into their bodies...

We should tell everyone that there is a danger, just not the ones the media wants you to believe.
 
^The way drug education is structured is a major cause of irresponsible drug use . The ridiculous fantasies they make up either will make kids be completely reckless since they are under the impression there no such thing as safe drug use or they won't believe any of the warning or precautions. Also they leave allot of important stuff out. In drug education in school they never told us drugs like lsd and mdma can interact fatally with certain anti-depressants nor do they tell you it can bring out latent mental health issues. They just say it causes mental illness and kills you. Funny how a drug that has been used for decades kills 1 or 2 people who took way too much yet they never talk about banning alcohol when some idiot dies from doing something like taking 21 shots on their 21st birthday.
 
When I was young, I accidentally ingested a shitload of AMT. I vomited so much that I thought I was never going to stop, but it did after 2-3 hours, and i tripped super hard for a good 18hrs. Even at a crazy high dose, i still didn't feel like I was in imminent danger. I've since had hundreds of responsible sessions with AMT, and I've always considered it pretty safe and forgiving. Wish it wasn't schedule 1 here in the states.
 
It's the same with anything, some people just have a bad reaction to things. Other times people a complete idiots who listens to the advice off forums from other idiots who want to get things banned and don't mind having people kill themselves to push their case to the powers that be. I read on one forum someone claiming they were taking 100mg every 6 hours for a day using some super strong AMT, which is just stupid. They were claiming that the "orange or yellow AMT" a more powerful version of the white AMT, now of course you get your idiot teenagers actually trying that with the white version because they believe it's weaker, when it isn't at all, it's impure and less potent. This particular teenager I'm referencing obviously read on some forums that idiots were taking this and that much, so thought it was safe to do it on their first try. They wouldn't have taken an allergy test with it first, being all too eager to get high and more than likely took too much at once.

I've been using 15mg a day for over a year now with the occasional 35mg for a decent 12 hour buzz followed by an awesome 12 hour slow comedown. I'm more energetic, a lot more in the mood to do things with my life, and haven't had a bout of depression the whole time I've been taking. I feel more balanced. Sure, just like any human being sober or not, things can still annoy me, but I don't let life get to me the same way it used to. I've gone from a broke loner, to a growing success in my own business. Everything only started to go really good for me after the AMT, my only regret is that I listened to the forums full of street dealers saying how crap it was and you're better off getting "real stuff", yeah, right. There is nothing any pusher can sell that's as good as a constant reliable stream of 98% pure goods.

I quit binge drinking and drinking to get drunk, and even the one or two times I did go over the limit on alcohol, although I knew I was drunk, I had more control of myself, wasn't as easily wound up as I used to be AND after taking 35mg at around 5pm, it kicked in around 7pm, drunk by 11pm which wasn't my original intent, but I think because alcohol is a downer and AMT is an upper, it made the whole experience different and the best part, when I woke up I didn't have a headache. My body felt a bit hungover but my head was perfectly fine. No negative comedown and back to the 15mg again.

At least when it was legal, I knew a reliable and safe place to get it from and the government were getting extra tax money, not just from the sales of the chemical, but for how I changed my life so much through it. I can't possibly be the only person using AMT instead of being tested on for years with the Dr's increasing doses of mood stabilisers, antidepressants and anything else they could think of while they try and solve a problem they have no idea about unless they've been through it themselves and found a magic cure. That's exactly what it was for me, I've tried many different things to lead a normal life, from alcohol to doctors to street drugs,

I only tried the hard stuff a couple of times each before not bothering again. Never understood why everybody insists that they can get the best coke when I tell them it's never done anything to me, they always get me to try their stuff which is the best on the market and to this day, all I've ever got from it was a numb nose. There was no extra confidence, no extra energy, nothing. So I don't waste my time with it. All I can see from it is a placebo made famous by movies and TV and anyone who tries it, feels something because they believe it's what they are meant to feel. One guy even said it made him horny when he took it, because he believes it's also an aphrodesiac, but never have I felt a thing. Special K on the other hand was unexpected. When I tried it 8 years ago, I thought bah, it's just going to be like coke, over hyped and over priced, so I took it over-confidentially not expecting much. I kid you not, it kicked in about 10-15 seconds after snuffing and boy was it a ride. After I turned the bathroom light off to walk through the kitchen into the living room, I couldn't see a thing and couldn't remember where the kitchen light was. I spent about 5 minutes walking around the kitchen sides, trying not to bump into anything then finally got there. Once I lay down in my bed, it felt like I was on a roller-coaster, I could see in my mind's eye the track and everyone I knew, their heads looked like they were getting bigger and coming through me, and as the train sped down the track and around the loops, I could feel it in my legs and body as if I were spinning around. It was awesome but definitely not a long term thing and there was no way I could work on it. I finished what I had over the two weeks that followed and haven't had it again. I stay away from snuffing, I've always hated the taste as it slowly goes down the back of my throat.

Anyway, I'm starting to go too in depth, so to sum up the entire thing I was thinking... Cannabis is not a gateway drug, not addictive and if you class it as being addictive and causes mood swings and such, then please ban television because that has the exact same effects. Nicotine and alcohol should be considered the gateway drugs as their the drugs most people try first, and legally at a HUGE profit to the government but illegalise that and people will start getting illegally, same as anything. You can never stop people doing what they like to their own bodies. Nobody has the right to tell people what they can or can't use, so long as they're not hurting anybody else while they use it. How many drunken knob heads are in the world? I USED to be one of them. I could never handle my drink before and always got aggressive when I was pissed. Now that's not a problem anymore. AMT doesn't cause aggression or depression or anything unless you've been taking it a while to help with problems, run out for a few days because the post didn't get delivered on time, and stupidly use alcohol thinking it's going to put you to sleep. So doctors, anytime someone comes into the hospital showing certain symptoms, don't immediately blame the drugs they're taking, without considering all of the facts, after all there is a lot of crap out there that doctors give that cause a lot worse than anything you can come up with with the safe drugs.

Re-legalise AMT around the world or you'll be the ones responsible for the increasing prison rates from innocent people, deaths from accidental overdoses, hospital beds being taken up which are already over crowded and going into debt, and an increase in false reports that only push people to try other things you lied about killing us instantly all our lives.

Thanks for putting up with me guys. Don't worry about deleting it if it's too long, at least I've finally gotten all of that out of my system to at least one person :)
 
Amt is a fairly safe drug I believe and for the media to label it a "killer drug" is sensationalising and scare mongering. Instead of scare mongering why not post harm reduction articles along side this story that mentions safe dosage and interactions with other drugs.
 
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