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UK Ketamine Shortage

Spliff Politics said:
Saw some vials of ketamax on a certain dark net site (although currently out of stock) for just under £50 a pop.
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8o8o8o

They go for £7.50 on the lightweb. Get yerself a torch and stop using moronic fukkin terms like "dark net" and you'd probably find that out for yourself ;)

isthisincognito said:
I would recommend dissolving a single dose per 1ml of liquid and injecting SLOWLY - If it hurts whilst you're pushing the plunger down you're going too fast. It should take around 20-40 seconds for the shot.
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This makes no sense. You only inject one dose by definition. An IM dose is a bit less but in the general ballpark of a snorted dose (as basic standard - am well aware there are wild variations in this so work it out yourselves). It takes barely a second to inject and if it hurts you have additives not ketamine as a main ingredient. Ketamine itself is utterly painless injected into a muscle.

isthisincognito said:
When you go into the muscle, pull back and check for blood. I performed 100's of shots and never hit blood, so I started skipping this step, and then once I must of hit my blood stream because I could feel it coming far too quick. I don't think it's a pleasant experience.
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Depends whether you hit vein or artery. Hit a vein and you're fine - you may pass out but you'll be fine. HIt and artery and there's real potential for trouble. Aside from the inherent risk of piercing an artery there's also the toxic effects of ketamine iteself which only become apparent if injected interarterial. Having done it once myself I can assure y'all it's better to check for (lack of) blood each and every time. Shoot up as much air bubble as you like but steer well clear of blood - especially of the pink and frothy kind.

Size of needle matters nary a shit - comfort is the only difference. And 1ml insulin syringes are kinda iffy in terms of snapped tips. Any detachable tips on needless barrels should be dandy. Some are fukkin big though. I favour "blue" type but "green" are okay as long as you have a thigh you'd struggle to grip in a single hand.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Crushed ketamine is not even close in size to that has been left after an evaporation.

No, I tend to bang em in a needle and take them that way if I choose.
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That's a downright lie or sheer ignorance. The former looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than the latter if you've ever crushed a substance properly in your life.

I tend to agree with the latter but the former is worth pointing out cos you often know your stuff but are so far off the mark here I can only presume speaking of which you do not know.
 
Shambles said:
Size of needle matters nary a shit - comfort is the only difference. And 1ml insulin syringes are kinda iffy in terms of snapped tips. Any detachable tips on needless barrels should be dandy. Some are fukkin big though. I favour "blue" type but "green" are okay as long as you have a thigh you'd struggle to grip in a single hand.
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So to conclude.....it does matter.=D
 
^ If you have thighs like Twiglets yes :D

(and i'd argue that not stabbing yer own femur probably comes under 'comfort' anyway :p)

omen_owen mk2 said:
2. The micro-crystalline substance that would consitute 'powder', adsorbs far more readily making for more bang to buck.
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This is the one and only reason to cook ket liquid. You can achieve precisely the same results by crushing.
 
Shambles said:
That's a downright lie or sheer ignorance. The former looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than the latter if you've ever crushed a substance properly in your life.

I tend to agree with the latter but the former is worth pointing out cos you often know your stuff but are so far off the mark here I can only presume speaking of which you do not know.
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I totally disagree. Cooked and crushed k looks MUCH bigger than just crushed crystal.
 
^ Meh. Heard £40-45/g recently. Not even worthy of a snigger. Fuck that. Am sticking with MXE for now.

omen_owen mk2 said:
Believe me, 20 2ml shots with a 23g and you'll be changing your mind on that sharpish.
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This is a meaningless statement. 20 is an entirely arbitraty number. As is 2ml. Sometimes I'll do that in a day, other times barely in a year. Various substances involved. When that substance is ketamine it tends towards the former end. I'm presuming you are referring to that stage when your *limb of choice* is like a slab of wood and encrusted with dried blood and scabby shit and it hurts to move? This is indeed true but also common sense. Stick a needle repeatedly into any part of yourself for days and weeks at a stretch and see how it fares - even without the drugs.
 
Well.....you were the one saying needle size doesn't matter, when it clearly does.

Amount of fluid you're putting in your muscles is the bigger issue though.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Well.....you were the one saying needle size doesn't matter, when it clearly does.

Amount of fluid you're putting in your muscles is the bigger issue though.
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In the general sense it matters nary a fuck. If you're happy to stick a needle full of drugs into a muscle you can probably cope with a bit of a sting. That's not the point is it. I'd agree the fluid volume is the bigger issue. Also concentration with some drugs. Sometimes you want volume to cancel (as best as possible) the acidic/caustic nature of the actual chemical. Other times you want concentration... although must say ketamine only comes close to hurting when concentrated - and that goes for all its various brethrin. My chemical knowledge is nowt but I always put this down to being salts - and especially salty salts at that (to taste). Muscles only like salts in certain ratios and concentrations. IMing a *fuckload* of "a dissociative salt* does give you both a rush and a time release effect - lasting days depending on dissociative involved - but also leaves a... knot. A lump. So far they have all ultimately reabosrbed and left only minor scars. I'd think more in-depth about the volume/content issue if considering using IM as any kinda primary route though.
 
HouseFever said:
I would also love some MXE, I used to push that stuff to the max.
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Did you get to the point you literally could not be arsed to inject another half gramme or so cos you had so many grammes sloshing round your system you knew damn well you wouldn't feel it anyway for a good 36h or so? I did. Was quite depressing actually. Never come across a drug where you can literally go past what it can provide. Odd. Fun but odd.
 
Well I could not physically put any more inside of me because, well I was orbiting galaxies. I was doing it when I lived with my mummy, which was a bad idea because I used to shout at the top of my voice when I was holing of it. Very odd. I find the mania side of discos so seductive..
 
^ Can't argue. I was meaning more drugs that you can keep going at - or feel you can. Generally speaking, I take your point and agree though. I know I couldn't do the same with ketamine - or I could at least go further if I wanted to. With MXE the tank really does empty before you can ever really get... "there" though. For me anyway. YMMV and all that.

The manic stuff only really comes with the "legals" (which are no longer legal obviously). 3-MeO-PCP is the worst/best for it with 3-MeO-PCE perhaps slightly ahead but rare enough to barely count and was marginal anyway. MXE is somewhere between that and actual ketamine in terms of mania. At stupidly high dosage it certainly is, combined with stims it can go utterly nuts (dangerously so in some cases) but taken alone I never really found it to be especially manic at any dose... short of several grammes anyway :o
 
So what's the news. Is the glorious wonk substance back or are we still in the dark??
 
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