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UK Ketamine Shortage

I had some S isomer last year, for the first time and didn't really rate it. Sure it felt cleaner, more potent and maybe a bit more trippy, but I was practically back to baseline in 30 minutes! Combined with the fact it was £30 as apposed to the usual (12 months ago) £20 tops for a g, meant it just wasn't cost effective enough!
 
Fuck s or r. Least of our worries right now. More if its actually k or not haha. Coming up to 5 months dead :O
 
Wonkchild012 said:
Fuck s or r. Least of our worries right now. More if its actually k or not haha. Coming up to 5 months dead :O
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I dunno why you put so much emphasis on it being such a bad thing. I'm glad I'm not pissing ten times a day anymore. When it floods the streets again and you've had a couple of wonky sessions, your life won't have improved at all. It's just psychological addiction talking. We convince ourselves that things would be better when we're on it. But when you're actually on it, is it really that great? It's done me no favours whatsoever. The tragedy isn't that it's illegal, the tragedy is that it's harmful to our body and our mental state.

I know I sound hypocritical, because in the past I was oh so very pro ketamine. Hence my username etc. But I was more naive a few years ago.
 
Also since just wrote an essay will double-post this one. I was talking also to a nice circle of drug users ranging from a wide variety of ages and I noticed that the trend was that, unlike what some may see (or maybe just myself?) as stereotypical with heavy recreational drug use in early years later ages becoming a heroin addiction. In this case the older drug users who had done their partying days, have children etc - essentially settled, were struggling with ketamine addiction more so instead, although that is not to disregard the serious issue/support needed for the still significant number of heroin addicts in UK. All I'm seeing is healthier friends and having more money. Not like I was even k-holing anyway anymore.

Not a big fan of S-Isomer either, the shorter duration but heavy k-holes lead to increased and bigger doses, which for someone who's a heavy user is a big deal as it affects both your wallet and k-cramps.
 
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The lucky ones are those who can take it or leave it, indulge a couple of times a year with mates and never get properly caught in that web. That was me for about a year. Then it was downhill from when I had some leftover from a sesh with some friends and I decided to try it alone. Soon it was accompanying movies on the weekends. Next thing I noticed, a gram was not enough to hit the spot. Multiple grams were going up my nose - at any time of the day. I was soon needing a line before a shower in the morning, as soon as I got in from work. K-holes stopped being pleasant or even occurring (I'd just shake horribly and feel toxic). Then it was being wrecked around my parents, shamelessly embarrassing myself, thinking I was sober enough to handle the situation, when in reality I was a zombie. Going out to the shops, to come back and see in the mirror that all that time I had a large globule of the stuff plastered over my nostril. The gap between mainstream life/reality and the k-world grows exponentially. Thinking your friends are turning against you and other paranoid delusions. Breaking so much shit from impaired motor skills. Then the dreaded cramps came flying in...and I tried to cover them up with more K, which works temporarily, only to exacerbate the problem.

In the beginning I was convinced that the k-hole had shown me the 'real' world and there was no need participating in actual reality, because I knew the truth and everyone was ignorant of such profound epiphanies. Fucked up so many chances with girls I like because of prioritizing my stupid habit. Pissing and pissing...and pissing. Gotta be up in a few hours for work? But I'm punctuating every hour with another trip to the fucking toilet. Too anxious to go to the cinema because I'd need to leave my seat twice for another slash.

All the while, it still seemed the reasonable thing to do, because that feeling could be indescribably beautiful. The way it adds depth to music and movies/animation is so alluring. It's a very seductive beast. I love the way it creeps up your spine and everything is numbed, everything from mundane and banal society is pushed away and the bubble of escapism appears unbreakable. Which is tragically just committing yourself to isolation. Then you have no more money to reach the level you need to get to with such a gigantic tolerance. Depression sets in and all you can think of is K, despite your nose rejecting a lot (and beginning to display signs of corrosion), contracting throat infections, feeling stabbing pains in your abdomen and kidneys. There's just never enough of it either! Buy 5 grams using the excuse that it's a 'long term' stash. A week or less isn't long term.

This does not apply to all. I know some can get by with recreational and comparatively responsible use. But for some, it's very easy to go through what I've described. That hippie smack is one helluva drug. And what's so awful is if my dealer texted me now saying it's back in, I'd be on my way out the door!

hahaha 8(
 
I dunno shadow people and acute-psycosis is enough to keep me from doing massive stim binges, but the k cramps didn't. I think the way you can be productive on stims is a big difference and the fact there is a massive escapism with the k-hole, similar to the nullification of strong opiates. But you can essentially replace 'euphoric stims' with any drug (bar cannabis), I just think I get a lot more done than I would in my sober/stoned state taking a stim binge which isn't remotely like productivity on k or other downer addictions.

Ket also gave me a benzo habit, which eventually led to a seizure because it doesn't allow you to sleep for hours after a k-hole for me.
 
bogman said:
never more than 100g at a time.
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That's quite a session! ;)

At my peak I could get through 5g in a day / night. Although half of that probably passed my nose and went straight to the stomach. Try to limit myself to a couple of grams at a time and only once a month now, although I'm secretly kinda pleased there's none about right now. Maybe my tolerance will reduce a bit? Does ket tolerance ever go back down?

Last surgery I had the anaesthetist seemed a bit confused by the fact he'd nearly finished injecting me with the big syringe of milky white liquid (not sure what it was) whilst I was still animatedly discussing the details of my job with the nurse. I went out eventually of course but I did wonder if there was some cross tolerance at play there?
 
roganjosh said:
Last surgery I had the anaesthetist seemed a bit confused by the fact he'd nearly finished injecting me with the big syringe of milky white liquid (not sure what it was)
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Think Michael Jackson ;)

(no, not that aspect of michael jackson-related phenomena)

Propafol is not a dissociative that I know of - it's a straight-up anaesthetic (although don't recall chemistry bobz (I did look up at the time it was all over the news but hasn't sunk in... unlike Michael Jackson into... nevermind - some things best left alone (like visiting children)... I digress). I wouldn't imagine there should be direct cross-toleration but anaesthesia is not fully understood anyway so not sure anybody could say for sure quite how that would work out.
 
Yeah dont get me wrong ive seen people around me ruin their whole lives on k. But the same goes for every other drug really and at a few points i was exceeding 10gs a week, i never had any health problems or pain or increased urination. But i knew it was a dark road so just sorta laid it off more and more. However the reason im hanging for some is stims make me severely paranoid and typically violently sick i hate drinking not that keen on tripping i dont smoke weed and opiates just seem one step towards a huge problem in my eyes... so its kinda the only thing i indulge in if im up for a bit of fun or am going out it has a beautiful way of weaving itself into almost any situation. I think as with everything you just gotta not give in to the dark side of it. I produce music also and find it puts me in a very creative mindspace, particularly on the afterglow period.



In other news got some LOVELY shards last night in Manchester. Was 25 on the g. But was real nice. Spesh with no tolerance. High hopes!
 
Hearing that litres are going for £*snip*, if they're even available.

I thought it was bad when I was paying £*snip* ten months ago, I remember the days of £*snip* litres!

On the plus side it's helped some of my friends break free from their addictions.:)

*mod edit: no bulk pricing cheers*
 
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Argh, wish it was around again and cheap. Really craving some. Even though I know it won't be for the best. How long are we gonna have to wait? Seems worse than the 2011 drought.
 
Find out where to look, the last few grams i've had have been amazing
 
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