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uhm does subxone mess with my heart?

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z0moZZhurr

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ive been on suboxone for almost a year now. and the past few months ive noticed some rapid heartbeats during the day, almost every day now. has anyone else experienced this?
 
Opiates in general are not cardiotoxic, actually rather benign, I haven't heard of this but I've never used buprenorphine for maintenance, usually a rapid detox using only one 8mg total cutting the dose in half every day.

To know more about your background, what dose are you on, and how do you take your dose? Do you use other drugs?
 
it could be an issue, i have heard of this before. but you should talk to your sub dr about it before anything. of your noticing signs like that dude then get on it just do make sure ya know.
 
I have actually heard of this quite a few times and it seems to be much more common with Suboxone than with other opioids. I would definitely talk to your doctor. But be prepared that they might just say it has no connection to the Suboxone or might say to stop taking the Suboxone or lower the dose.

I have also noticed this in connection with opioid withdrawal symptoms. Are you feeling totally fine otherwise, or do you get these symptoms just before it's time to take your next dose?
 
I would reccomend discussing this with your doctor. But opiates including bupe are pretty easy on the organs so it's definately something you need to bring up as it may be something else.
 
When I was on suboxone I would constantly get a feeling as if my heart was off beat, or palpitating. I still feel that to this day. My dr. Put me on 2mg Xanax a day and it made them mostly unoticable.
 
Swimmingdancer said:
I have actually heard of this quite a few times and it seems to be much more common with Suboxone than with other opioids. I would definitely talk to your doctor. But be prepared that they might just say it has no connection to the Suboxone or might say to stop taking the Suboxone or lower the dose.

I have also noticed this in connection with opioid withdrawal symptoms. Are you feeling totally fine otherwise, or do you get these symptoms just before it's time to take your next dose?
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Thank you everyone. And yes i am feeling fine and everything but funny that mention that because when i didnt have my subs it did seem to get worse. However even when i do feel fine its still kinda there, before and after i take my dose.. even when im not doing anything so I will talk to my Dr. about it, and see whats up but you are probably right. I dont think he will relate it to the subs. Even tho it started after being on them for 5 months, then just continued.
 
Is it steady tachycardia or like a quick fluttering? If it's the latter that is palpitations.

If you are straining a lot when you have bowel movements from the buprenorphine, this can very easily cause a hiatal hernia that presses on the vagus nerve and causes palpitations. If you have any other symptoms of acid reflux, this is even more likely.
 
Cane2theLeft said:
Is it steady tachycardia or like a quick fluttering? If it's the latter that is palpitations.

If you are straining a lot when you have bowel movements from the buprenorphine, this can very easily cause a hiatal hernia that presses on the vagus nerve and causes palpitations. If you have any other symptoms of acid reflux, this is even more likely.
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interesting reply, cause i know when i was first put on this i did have constipation problems. could all this be coming from that?? but yes it was a quick fluttering. usually fast and hard heartbeats. and it would last for 20-30 mins..
 
Interesting. I have the symptoms of hiatal hernia as well. Maybe I should get checked. It is important to note, however, that symptoms of hiatal hernia could be caused by all sorts of things and should never be used for self-diagnosis. Symptoms can include chest pains, heart palpitations, acid reflux, and a feeling of swallowed food "balling up" in the esophagus.

I have not been constipated recently, but years of constipation may have caught up with me (I have been having these symptoms for a while). Was thinking of getting some tests done anyway.
 
I'm just browsing through the Suboxone monograph right now to find anything about cardiac incidents. The only opioid that I can think of that is directly cardiotoxic is propoxyphene due to its local anesthetic effect causing arrhythmia and I believe messing with the QT interval.

Anyways, here are some snippets from the Suboxone monograph:

Cardiovascular
SUBOXONE may cause orthostatic hypotension.

Like other opioids, SUBOXONE may cause orthostatic hypotension.


Table 1 - Treatment-emergent adverse events reported in the pivotal clinical study of SUBOXONE (≥1.0 %
of SUBOXONE-treated patients)
SUBOXONE

N = 472

Cardiovascular System
Vasodilation 29 (6.1 % )
Hypertension 17 (3.6 % )
Pain Chest 23 (4.9 % )

Less Common Clinical Trial Adverse Drug Reactions (<1 % )
Treatment-emergent adverse events reported as less common (<1 % ) in the pivotal SUBOXONE
clinical study included:

Cardiovascular System: angina pectoris, bradycardia, electrocardiogram abnormal,
hypotension, myocardial infarction, palpitation, phlebitis, tachycardia, thrombosis,
thrombophlebitis (deep), vascular disorder and varicose vein.



That being said, my addictions doc has me go for EKGs every 3 months or so due to the Suboxone. This alone tells me that there is some risk of coronary problems caused by bupe.
 
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