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Two questions - Kratom after rolling, and a weird rolling experience

Seattle_Stranger

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My real question is this: Is there any reason not to use kratom the day after a roll? I searched but couldn't find anything on this.

And for the weird experience:


We have been planning on going to this huge Halloween event and obviously, we wanted to roll. Unfortunately, just this week, my friend's source fell through. So last night, my friend had a friend who knows a guy that has a friend (etc.., ya know....) pick up 2g's of molly powder from this dude we know nothing about. Shady, I know, but two of the guys I was with said they've rolled on his stuff before and it's all good. They also said that the guy claims that "this stuff is stronger than the last batch". One of the guys I was with had some molly left over from the last time they bought from him, and it was white as snow.

I pop open the bag, and the powder is unusually brown, not the typical white or off white. Also, it actually had crystals in it, little brown dirty looking crystals. I've never seen that before. So I proceeded to capsule up 100mg's each. We all drop. The come up felt like I expected it to, but then sort of just...stopped. Mucho stimulation, wide-eyed popping feeling, but only moderate euphoria. No rushing feeling, no bursting with excitement, no urge to dance or socialize, no loved up feeling at all, not even between my gf and I, nothing like peaking on MDMA (or even mephedrone) has ever felt for me before. It felt good and all, there was decent euphoria here and there, however I also started feeling really under-stimulated, tired, worn out. I would sit down for a few minutes, would feel better quickly, then would feel like I have a rush of energy again, only for it to disappear again. I dropped a second capsule (100mg) about 1:30 after my initial dose, and it didn't feel like it intensified anything, just prolonged it. Also, another fun fact is when I got home ~4 hours after I dropped my second capsule, I was feeling somewhat sober, however, after taking a couple hits of a cigar, my roll seemed to come back in full force (or at least as strong as this one was). My pupils were also extremely dilated +12 hours after.

By the end of the night, my friends and I all agreed something wasn't right with that molly. I'm not asking for a drug ID here, however from your experiences, does this sound anything like meth? Just weak molly? Something else? None of us roll often enough or have a ton of experience to really make a judgement, however we've all rolled enough to know what a good clean roll feels like and that certainly was not one.

I'm not too worried about it, just a curiosity thing really. I wonder if this simply just sounds like either shitty molly or heavily cut molly, or if it actually sounds like we were sold something else.. I really want to know about the kratom though. :)

Thanks guys and gals!
 
I used to absolutely love taking a nice dose of kratom when i started coming down off the stimulant the same night, whether it was speed, MDMA, meph. And the day after of course.

Not only is it perfectly safe, its really nice to lifting the spirits again :)

It could be weak molly aswell....poorly synth'd? God knows man.ive had some really good molly that sounds like the physical description of your stuff
 
I used to absolutely love taking a nice dose of kratom when i started coming down off the stimulant the same night, whether it was speed, MDMA, meph. And the day after of course.

Not only is it perfectly safe, its really nice to lifting the spirits again :)

It could be weak molly aswell....poorly synth'd? God knows man.ive had some really good molly that sounds like the physical description of your stuff

Thanks, I'll prepare my cup of kratom right now! :)

So, you've had good molly that appeared darker brown and actually had chunks of crystal in it? To me, it simply looked like a poor synth but then again, I know nothing about that. Any other molly I've ever dealt with has been either a pure white or slightly off white, decently fine powder. This reminded me of clumpy brown sugar.. :\
 
Here's a super open ended question that I don't expect a single answer to, but what do some of you define as a "good clean roll"? As compared to a dirty/adulterated one?

So far, my first experiences with molly was from an extremely reliable source, and it was said to be pure, straight from the chemist. Obviously I took that with a grain of salt, but since then, I have yet to roll on anything even remotely close to that. Unexplainable levels of euphoria, OEV's, and an uncontrollable to urge to hug every person around me, and life was just magical in every sense of the word. This stuff I had last night was not even close to that. No magic, no lovey dovey, no kissy huggy, bah!! Heh, I'm really not all too upset, I still had fun, but I'm just curious at this point.
 
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