Two first Timers with no effect.

[thekid2010]

20 year old male 140 pounds
(ADHD) but i do not take medication for it..

21 year old Woman 110 pounds
Vitamin D pills directed by doctor for low vitamin D



both of us chronic weed smokers (daily)
We both had food on stomach about an hour before me dropped.

took 1 size 4 capsule each weighed .1 G on scale. assuming close to 100mg... 8:45pm
both of us layed on the couch and watched a movie for about 45 minutes, after at this we went outside to smoke a cigar sweet (no marijuana)
then continued to listen to music, We constantly shared how it was making us feel and felt small amounts of euphoria and mild music distortion.
At this time about 1 hour in (9:45)pm we both took another proclaimed molly right after i went to pick up some cannabis due to be slightly frustrated of the effects we had felt so far... Things didnt get much better that night even after we smoked the bud. We did still have a good night together as this has been my partner for 5 years now... it was something we wanted to do together. Sex seemed more intense than usual but both still reached an orgasm (12:00Am)
After sex we watched A couple Tv shows. we were completely wide awake until 3 Am, our normal bedtime is around 1 Am usually marijuana aided. This pill didnt have any speedy effects on us it didnt seem to speed us as we wnt to bed quite easily when we wanted. It did seem to settle me down a bit like Addaral does to me due to my ADHD could this be a reason for the dull effects..

The next day we both worked around noon. at 11 Am we smoked a blunt of cannabis this almost seemed to make us more euphoric than normal off of this weed (reggie) not Dro this high lasted well into our time at work. She even called me to ask if i felt the same way she did. My high lasted well after 4 o clock it wasnt oh so much of a body high. I felt the afterglow that i have read about i seemed happy and energetic as she did as well. weed has never made me feel that way it makes me feel good not necessarily Happy.

I got these caps from same connect as the cannabis (FAMILY)
the next day i opened a Cap and tasted it and it was very very bitter this wasnt caffeine and the effects surely didnt seem like speed.

We are going to attempt to try again in 2 weeks during these 2 weeks we will not be smoking cannabis or any other drugs even alcohol...
my question to you all is what should i change or add to maybe help us ROLL

 

[2c-goinsane]

i would get a test kit if your looking to roll. im not trying to be a dick but even if your family is giving you those capsules i would be testing them no matter what, theres so many compounds out there that mimic mdma you wont know what your consuming just by eating it or tasting it ime, their intentions might be good but you can never take someones word with mdma ime. even if your already pretty positive that you have quality mdma imo you should still test it. test kits are also pretty cheap imo.

i would also try not to eat anything for at least 3-5 hours before dosing, mdma seems to work better if my stomach isnt full. i would also go for a dose around 150-180mg all at once for my usual mdma session. i smoke high grade cannabis daily and i also smoke it while on mdma, i love smoking cannabis while rolling. cannabis also helps the come up for me.

there is a mdma diet you can find some where on here aswel thatd prob be a good place to start to.

 

[blah blah]

You should ADD a damn test kit to the equation before you guys even consider dropping that shit again. The odds are against you that what you took was real and your experience supports that. www.dancesafe.org and get a test kit. That thing will pay for itself 10 fold with all the money you'll save not buying fake shit again. And you'll also get to experience MDMA as it should be experienced and it'll knock your fuckin socks off when you get legit goodies.

 

[thekid2010]

thank you guys i totally agree i was honestly just wondering if i had done something horribly wrong. i appreciate it really.
also goinsane how are the caps right now in dallas as i live in dallas as well.. alot of bunk shit running around what has been your experiences as of lately

 

[First Bad Comedown]

You cannot really make a great judgment about what you took without testing it.
One option is to get a report from several people who took some of the same supply.
For example, if everyone at a party takes the same stuff and they all roll balls and you don't, then it is reasonable to start asking what is wrong with you...

Adderall, even if you don't take it now, can have VERY long term effects on people.
This includes disabling their ability to enjoy MDMA.
Plenty of anecdotes exist on BL that confirm this.

It is an amphetamine and long-term use is toxic to the dopamine neurons.
Dopamine release is the primary consequence of the serotonin release of MDMA.
Serotonin inhibits dopamine, then allows it to surge forth - like a flood after a dam breaks.

Adderall might disable the build-up up dopamine in the first place.
Even if it has been a long time since you stopped taking it.
Recovery from amphetamine use can take many years, so patience is important.

However, you girlfriend I presume has NOT been an Adderall user.
If that is accurate then her lack of intensity seems to suggest that neither of you got enough quality or quantity.
The basics on dosing...

75mg is the minimum dosage of pure MDMA required to elicit a subjective response in 'control' subjects (newbies).
As the dose is pushed up to 100 mg the experience grows significantly stronger.
At 150 mg most people will experience the 'full' effect of MDMA - indicating a powerful cortisol and prolactin response by the pituitary gland.

Heavy cannabis users do often have a blunted neuro-endocrine response to MDMA or other drugs.
But I was a heavy regular smoker for many years and ALWAYS got off on MDMA.
So...

Since you took two doses, which I never recommend, and didn't feel anything approaching a powerful experience...
It could be easily concluded that you didn't take REAL MDMA.
Or it was so weak that even two pills did not push you up to 150mg of actual MDMA.

A testing kit is the minimum you should have.
It would remove any doubt, and possibly save you from taking something much more dangerous!
So get with the program and follow the basic rules.
You might just find out that your family member is giving you bunk shit.

Sex on MDMA should be the most intense and pleasurable experience you have ever had.
Literally like experiencing orgasm the entire time!

So you simply didnt get the real deal.
Too bad.

Just make sure when you do it is tested.
Take 150 mg in ONE dose.
No redosing, no rolling two days in a row.
Space rolls by 90 days.

These are the basic rules of taking a neurotoxic drug.
Good luck next time.

 

[xtimex]

What you had was fake. I've been testing powder around the Dallas area for years and to be honest all of it is fake. I test from various sources all over the metroplex and it's always the same thing, Cathidones or even nothing at all. What you had was some random powder that someone sold to you as Molly. I would suggest not to keep trying to take it to see if it works because you are going to waste your time and money. Buy a test kit and find the real stuff if you want to try MDMA. I don't settle for anthing less than real MDMA. Thing is Dallas is an horrible city to live in at the moment if you like to consume MDMA. If you want the real stuff here you have to resort to importation of it.