Jellybelly92
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I have heard that if LSD crystalline solid will give off blackbody radiation when flicked is this just a rumor? Has anyone seen any studies on the electrochemistry of LSD or any other tryptamines?
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Tryptamines and electrochemistry
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adrian89987
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Everything with electrons gives off blackbody radiation.
But yes, LSD is luminescent when you shake it and such. Idk what this has to do directly with electrochemistry though..
But yes, LSD is luminescent when you shake it and such. Idk what this has to do directly with electrochemistry though..
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Jellybelly92
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I was thinking a very efficent light source. If it gives off light with a shake it must not require lots of energy.
Jellybelly92
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The problem prob. is that it would decompose rapidly in light. But what about a light tight vacuum or something along that matter.
adrian89987
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanoluminescence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboluminescence
I would think shaking crystals of LSD in order to use as a light source would require more energy than flowing some electrons into a light bulb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboluminescence
I would think shaking crystals of LSD in order to use as a light source would require more energy than flowing some electrons into a light bulb
Jellybelly92
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Yes that is true but if you used it as the filament in the lightbulb do you think it would be effective? And do you think shaking it increases the decomposition of the compound. Very interesting about the quartz crystals. The ancient egyptians used quartz also for ceremonies. (The Pyramid Code)
Roger&Me
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No, the luminescence that results from LSD is due to perturbing its crystal structure.
The tungsten filament in a light bulb emits light due to incandescence. IE, the material is heated and its temperature causes the molecules to move to higher vibrational energy levels and the difference in energy is released as electromagnetic radiation in the visible spectrum.
Two completely unrelated photoemissive processes.
sekio
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It's not an effective or efficient light source because it relies on mechanical movement and not current or whatever, so the crystals must be in constant motion. Oil of wintergreen (as seen with wint-o-green lifesavers candy) is also triboluminescent as are a few other aromatic compounds.
Crystalline filaments are hard to produce, to top it off.
Crystalline filaments are hard to produce, to top it off.
Jellybelly92
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Thanks Roger&Me makes sense now that you said that. Just think that tryptamines have so much more potential then just being drugs. Do you know if they're electromagnetic properties with LSD? or is to unstable to test? & is it theoretically possible to grow a single LSD crystal? Would it be more stable? Haven't looked into all these ?'s yet and was just seeing if anyone else had a knowledge on this matter.
My understanding was that the amount of light you get was tiny, ie, in a pitch black room, once your eyes have adapted to the darkness, you could just barely see the light.
Wintergreen lifesavers will generate tiny amounts of light in response to physical shock (such as chewing them), tape being unstuck from something can (depending on the brand) etc. All of these ways of making light are hopelessly inefficient for general lighting.
sekio
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Not really. Moreover LSD is not really a tryptamine, it's an ergoline. LSD doesn't have any mystical "electromagnetic properties" that set it apart from any other chemicals.
Synthetically, tryptamines are most useful as drugs because they're really close to the chemicals our brain and cells use to communicate with.
Single LSD crystals have been grown indeed, but they're hard to produce.
Jellybelly92
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Do you know of any data that is available on this subject? Not to say your wrong I just would feel better seeing the data myself.
sekio
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What kind of "data" are you looking for? "Electromagnetic properties" is a very, very broad class of measurements to be making.
As far as I know, at the very least with a bit of poking around you can find UV and IR adsorbtion spectra. There's not exactly an excess of experimental data aviliable due to the controlled substance status of LSD.
If you're looking for interesting chemicals with strange properties, you should try studying some inorganic chemistry, especially things like metallocenes... strange shit. Organic chemistry is just not that "magical" on a quantum level, it's usually more tuned towards biological interactions.
As far as I know, at the very least with a bit of poking around you can find UV and IR adsorbtion spectra. There's not exactly an excess of experimental data aviliable due to the controlled substance status of LSD.
If you're looking for interesting chemicals with strange properties, you should try studying some inorganic chemistry, especially things like metallocenes... strange shit. Organic chemistry is just not that "magical" on a quantum level, it's usually more tuned towards biological interactions.