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Me and my close best friend are going to a rave tomorrow. It's not our first one, but we want to try MDMA. We've never done any other drug or even drank alcohol. Both of us want to try it to enhance our experience. We know about the drug, and aren't stupid enough to make super bad decisions. We just want to get messy.

The event is 5 hours long, we'd start out with with a half a pill. We definitely don't want to come home high or feeling like absolute shit the next day or two (we'd do it on a saturday night, we'd be fine by monday, right?) We're trying to do this as responsibly as we can. Sorry for sounding like a noob.

Tips? Advice? Yes/No? Anything? Thanks :):):)
 
Where are you from? In America half a pill would do nothing, in Holland it's a perfect dose...


Also what pills do you have? America's "ecstasy" market has gone to complete shit lately. The rest of the world too, but I just know that over here a good 67.8% at least of "ecstasy" has no MDMA.

METH, gross ass piperazines, PMMA (Dr. Death), 5-MeO-DiPT and literally hundreds of other unidentified and unresearched chemicals are found in today's pills.


Look up the pill your getting on pillreports.com, and consider buying a test kit from dancesafe.org, its only $25

Be safe, and be sure to have MDMA for your first time. If you take anything else, you haven't rolled yet.
 
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Oh shit.... we don't want meth at all ):
I doubt I'd be able to find MDMA in one day...

I'm from the Pacific Northwest, by the way. ^_____^
 
To be 100% honest with you, meth is really the least of your concerns...

It may take weeks, and in some places it may even take months, but trust me, the wait is so worth it. Pure MDMA is one of the best experiences you can have in life, but a piperazine high is one of the worst... just keep looking till you find it, always be sure to look up or test the pills you get.
 
No need for scaremongering, just try and look up your press on pillreports.com, or ask someone you know and trust who had them before if it's the real thing.

In any case you should invest in a reagent test kit like those on eztest.com. It really is mandatory if the mdma thing isn't going to be a one off, if you ask me. In case there are no decent pills to be had in your area, or you can't overcome your suspicions regarding pressed pills go hunt down some molly, availability is up, quality is up, can't corroborate folleys assessment of the mdma market at all.

Starting slow is never a bad idea, but you really want to be your first time mdma to be memorable, it'll never be that good again most likely, underdosing can be disappointing. If you know your gear is sound you shouldmbe fine with taking one rather than a half one. Just a thought.
 
i'd say go for dancesafe. i wish we could get dancesafe kits here in the UK but we're stuck with the shitty one use EZ test ampules
 
I am recommending dancesafe based on several positive experiences getting the test kit promptly. Ive ordered lots of kits, EZtest takes forever to gwt through US customs. Dancesafe carries bottles that can be used over and over, EZtest new single-use glass tubes are hard to break and easy to get cut on.

I dont work for any company either but Ive spoken to Nathan on the telephone and Carissa always answers emails quickly. They are a pretty damn reliable source for kits.

I have also eyeballed NIK forensic marquis reagents on Amazon.com. they are only $15 USD.

Not sure of any other sources but ive had EZtest take 6 weeks twice, and they sent me a robadope labeled simons.

Dancesafe sent me a kit the very next day, and every kit I got from them was labeled correctly unlike EZtest.
 
I must recommend dancesafe as well. Tested three times with the ez test kit, got close to getting cut twice, and actually did get cut the last time. I haven't had the top of the vial snap off clean once. The instructions also say to slap the vial against a hard surface, to loosen the particles stuck to the sides, but they would not come lose. No way.

Did you roll?
 
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Where are you from? In America half a pill would do nothing, in Holland it's a perfect dose...
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There are good and bunk pills everywhere... making assuptions and generalizations regarding dosing is counterproductive to harm reduction

Also what pills do you have? America's "ecstasy" market has gone to complete shit lately. The rest of the world too, but I just know that over here a good 70% at least of "ecstasy" has no MDMA.
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Can you please provide your source for this "statistic"?
 
Chemically Insane said:
Can you please provide your source for this "statistic"?
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Pillreports.com

ecstasydata.com

maps.org

bluelight.ru




Unless you're in California, certain parts of Utah, or Chicago and buying only mints, AT LEAST 60% of the pills around you will be fake. No, actually I feel comfortable saying 80% of pills being sold in the US are fake.


Prove me wrong. Please.


Washington, Florida, New York, Connecticut, Quebec, Ohio, Nevada, Wisconsin and MANY other states are almost completely lacking MDxx pills right now.






Go on pillreports, all the MDMA pills are from Cali. That's about it. I know what I'm talking about.
 
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Folley said:
Pillreports.com

ecstasydata.com

maps.org

bluelight.ru




Unless you're in California, certain parts of Utah, or Chicago and buying only mints, AT LEAST 60% of the pills around you will be fake. No, actually I feel comfortable saying 80% of pills being sold in the US are fake.


Prove me wrong. Please.


Washington, Florida, New York, Connecticut, Quebec, Ohio, Nevada, Wisconsin and MANY other states are almost completely lacking MDxx pills right now.






Go on pillreports, all the MDMA pills are from Cali. That's about it. I know what I'm talking about.
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Im not wagering a guess as to the ratio of good to bad... because its nothing more than a guess... your first guess was 70%, your second was "at least 60%", amd then you immediately change again and guess 80%...

You cant just make up facts as you go... are lots of pills adulturated? Yes. How many? Its really impossible to know, test everything... maybe your dealer has 100% good pills, maybe 100% bunk... to try and guess a national average you ywould need to know how many of every press there is and how many were bunk and real... please stop speculating "facts and statistics"
 
Does anyone actually think I meant that EXACTLY 80% of pills were bunk? No.

It conveys the message that an overwhelmingly high majority of pills being sold have adulterants in them. A completely true message.

Folley said:
Also what pills do you have? America's "ecstasy" market has gone to complete shit lately. The rest of the world too, but I just know that over here a good 70% at least of "ecstasy" has no MDMA.
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How is there anything wrong with that statement. "A good 70%", I even SAY that its not an accurate number. It just means more than half.


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to try and guess a national average you ywould need to know how many of every press there is and how many were bunk and real...
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And checking for a year or two everyday and hearing people from all corners say the same thing I have doesn't give me a good idea, at the very least?






Please stop finding problems with the things I post when there are none.
 
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Your basic advice is good... fabricating supporting evidence destroys credibility... you can be confident, you can have an opinion, you can ask questions... Im not picking on you, i and others appreciate your dedication but wish you spent as much time researching real facts as opposed to trying to make someone prove your theory wrong with their facts which you typically disregard/ignore/change the subject/try and male them spend an hour proving your theory wrong as you adjust it around their facts/etc...
 
I didnt call you out the first time... i asked your source for the statistic... you made it abundantly clear that it was simply a guess... i suggested you not guess statistics... now im picking on you because i brouht up more examples when the first didnt meet your approval?
 
You want a source?

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=region_home&region=1

There are 15 pills on the front page. Of those 15, 4 have MDMA.


So 26% of 15 pills from all over the United States and Canada have ANY MDMA in them.

All 4 of those pills are found in California, and 2 also have methamphetamine in them. The two MDMA only pills are Pokeballs.




I underestimated at first.
 
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