Trying MDMA once

[Folley]

OP, you can use MDMA responsibly at 15.

Do I think you will? No, I think you're going to abuse the drug just like every other raver out there.... that doesn't mean it can't happen though. If you're going to roll this young.. you NEED to practice harm reduction. Only roll once every 3 months (that's Shulgin's law.) and don't be taking fucking .5 to roll.. get like 200mg maximum and drop it. Even that will be much too much for a noob if it's real MDMA




Do know that if you abuse this drug, your serotonin system will not develop right and you will most likely be depressed and anxious for the rest of your life. I am a personal testament to that

 

[crackhead420]

Why are you so obsessed with not being sober?

It is really bad wanting to take a mind altering chemical at such a young age. Damn it kid when I was 15 I was off hanging out with my friends playing 'he said she said' and 'who fancies who '. I grew up around drug users and they too took drugs at a very young age because they didn't know how to be social and bubbly and get girls, but that is where problems start! I saw then crumble into nothing and not be able to be normal, ever! when you figure out how to have a good time without drugs then take drugs if you so wish dude.

I'm 21 now, and I didn't start taking drugs until I was 18-19. Even now I wish I had waited longer. There is just too much to learn, life lessons that is before you can alter your mind like this.

You say you will only take it once until your older. I can tell you now, you wont wait! You told us that you wont feel confident unless your not sober, this is a huge red flag in its self. Think about it, what if this MDMA you get gives you what you want and makes you better with people and gets you your girl or whatever? you ARE going to want it again, and 5 years is a very long time to a 15 year old isn't it?

If the rave you are going to is illegal anyway you should have no problems getting alcohol dude

Stay safe man!

Well have you ever been to a rave sober? EXACTLY anyways look what like I don't see the problem, life is soooo coool with drugs, I smoke weed like once a week and have a happy life but I just need a fucking stimulant cause I'm so anxious and never talk or dance at raves its just... Boring and no I can't get alcohol even at a rave cause idk how would I get it, also I've considerd speed on occassion instead of mdma once but I heard mdmas like heaven :D

 

[crackhead420]

Why are you so obsessed with not being sober?

It is really bad wanting to take a mind altering chemical at such a young age. Damn it kid when I was 15 I was off hanging out with my friends playing 'he said she said' and 'who fancies who '. I grew up around drug users and they too took drugs at a very young age because they didn't know how to be social and bubbly and get girls, but that is where problems start! I saw then crumble into nothing and not be able to be normal, ever! when you figure out how to have a good time without drugs then take drugs if you so wish dude.

I'm 21 now, and I didn't start taking drugs until I was 18-19. Even now I wish I had waited longer. There is just too much to learn, life lessons that is before you can alter your mind like this.

You say you will only take it once until your older. I can tell you now, you wont wait! You told us that you wont feel confident unless your not sober, this is a huge red flag in its self. Think about it, what if this MDMA you get gives you what you want and makes you better with people and gets you your girl or whatever? you ARE going to want it again, and 5 years is a very long time to a 15 year old isn't it?

If the rave you are going to is illegal anyway you should have no problems getting alcohol dude

Stay safe man!

Well have you ever been to a rave sober? EXACTLY anyways look what like I don't see the problem, life is soooo coool with drugs, I smoke weed like once a week and have a happy life but I just need a fucking stimulant cause I'm so anxious and never talk or dance at raves its just... Boring and no I can't get alcohol even at a rave cause idk how would I get it, also I've considerd speed on occassion instead of mdma once but I heard mdmas like heaven :D

I'm also wondering how weed is at socialising at a rave cause last time I smoked too early and started coming down when the rave started :L anyways yhhh you all do drugs don't judge

 

[J.Wallace]

Well have you ever been to a rave sober?

Yes, quite a few times actually. It's called getting a natural high from the positive vibes around you.

As for smoking weed at a rave, I personally prefer to do that around 2 maybe 3am when things start to slow down. It helps me relax, relieves any tension in my body from dancing or doing poi too strenuously and is a nice way to get a small circle together for some conversations.

 

[crackhead420]

Yes, quite a few times actually. It's called getting a natural high from the positive vibes around you.

As for smoking weed at a rave, I personally prefer to do that around 2 maybe 3am when things start to slow down. It helps me relax, relieves any tension in my body from dancing or doing poi too strenuously and is a nice way to get a small circle together for some conversations.

Hmm I need a conversation starter cause if I go to the rave with a j I can just go up to random ppl and say "wanna bun a zoot" but yh weeds shit at raves, balloons are decent and make me move around for some reason so yh but they are short, expensive and last time a girl stole my balloon :L

 

[J.Wallace]

Hmm I need a conversation starter cause if I go to the rave with a j I can just go up to random ppl and say "wanna bun a zoot" but yh weeds shit at raves, balloons are decent and make me move around for some reason so yh but they are short, expensive and last time a girl stole my balloon :L

If you like the feeling is N20, you should know it's very identical to what Ketamine is like, only Ketamine lasts longer, usually 2 hours or so in my experience. And no, you don't bring a J with you and ask random people if they want to smoke. Instead, you roll a blunt or a J and cyphe it with 3 or 4 of your friends. Maybe even a new person you just met. Don't go asking strangers though, they'll just say Yes then run off once it's done.

Since you are so set on doing a substance, in the interest of harm reduction I'd recommend maybe trying Ketamine. I don't feel right telling you what kinds of drugs to do, but it's better than getting some RC stimulant passed off as MDMA, not to mention you don't have to worry about dieing from doing too much, you'll be knocked out before you reach the fatal limit.

 

[Chesh]

Anyways if alcohol will make me more confident how am I supposed to get it :L and the rave I'm going to my friends gonna do k and I definetly am NOT going to this rave sober

k is alright for getting fucked at a free rave mate, just take it in bumps until you're feeling how you want to feel. better off doing ket once at your age than doing mandy once.

and yeah like j wallace said, doing a nos balloon is a bit like being absolutely wonked out on ket.

 

[Folley]

better off doing ket once at your age than doing mandy once.

Just wondering, what's your reasoning behind that?

 

[crackhead420]

If you like the feeling is N20, you should know it's very identical to what Ketamine is like, only Ketamine lasts longer, usually 2 hours or so in my experience. And no, you don't bring a J with you and ask random people if they want to smoke. Instead, you roll a blunt or a J and cyphe it with 3 or 4 of your friends. Maybe even a new person you just met. Don't go asking strangers though, they'll just say Yes then run off once it's done.

Since you are so set on doing a substance, in the interest of harm reduction I'd recommend maybe trying Ketamine. I don't feel right telling you what kinds of drugs to do, but it's better than getting some RC stimulant passed off as MDMA, not to mention you don't have to worry about dieing from doing too much, you'll be knocked out before you reach the fatal limit.

Ahh thanks man this is an answer I like, cause my friends are doing k but I'm scared cause like its really bad for you and apparently it can get scary :L

 

[Chesh]

Just wondering, what's your reasoning behind that?

as far as i'm aware ket is nowhere near as neurotoxic as md and won't have as much of an impact on his growing brain.

they use higher doses of ketamine on kids younger than him at hospitals all the time.

 

[Chesh]

my friends are doing k but I'm scared cause like its really bad for you and apparently it can get scary :L

it's only really bad for you if you get addicted to it, end up doing it every day or far too often and start damaging your bladder or kidneys.

 

[patra]

I get what your saying but your all acting like its really bad when you take it just because I'm a child, sure there is the age difference and my brains still developing but 1 use will make no noticable differences in my life.

Anyways if alcohol will make me more confident how am I supposed to get it :L and the rave I'm going to my friends gonna do k and I definetly am NOT going to this rave sober

I was super responsible at age 15, and I know that being 15 doesn't necessarily make you a child. I'm definitely not trying to be condescending or tell you what you should or shouldn't do... I think all of us who have advised you, just like many of us have said, are telling you what we think in relation to our own experience. As I said, I'm really glad I started taking it a lot older, even though I was quite mature at your age, which is why I'd advise waiting.

anyways yhhh you all do drugs don't judge

Yep... which is why you should take our advice seriously! Why would we be judgmental? No one here has judged you for your question or hardly been preachy, we have no reason to do so. We're just thinking of our own experiences and offering advice based on that. No one has said to you "NEVER take MDMA!!" we're just saying it will be a lot better, more worth it, and you'll be happier if you wait until you're a little bit older. You can't deny the effects it has on your brain chemistry, especially at such a vital age for brain formation... it is scientifically proven that until you're in your early 20s, your brain is still going through so much massive development... there are a lot of things happening with your hormones, too.

Whatever you decide, please take our advice seriously and be safe about what you end up doing. If you're dead-set on taking it, make sure it is what it's supposed to be, and take a safe amount.

 

[crackhead420]

I was super responsible at age 15, and I know that being 15 doesn't necessarily make you a child. I'm definitely not trying to be condescending or tell you what you should or shouldn't do... I think all of us who have advised you, just like many of us have said, are telling you what we think in relation to our own experience. As I said, I'm really glad I started taking it a lot older, even though I was quite mature at your age, which is why I'd advise waiting.



Yep... which is why you should take our advice seriously! Why would we be judgmental? No one here has judged you for your question or hardly been preachy, we have no reason to do so. We're just thinking of our own experiences and offering advice based on that. No one has said to you "NEVER take MDMA!!" we're just saying it will be a lot better, more worth it, and you'll be happier if you wait until you're a little bit older. You can't deny the effects it has on your brain chemistry, especially at such a vital age for brain formation... it is scientifically proven that until you're in your early 20s, your brain is still going through so much massive development... there are a lot of things happening with your hormones, too.

Whatever you decide, please take our advice seriously and be safe about what you end up doing. If you're dead-set on taking it, make sure it is what it's supposed to be, and take a safe amount.

You know what, thanks I think ill wait till I'm older before I take mdma but I'm scared ill change my mind then and never experience the best time of my life :L are there any uppers as safe as weed?

 

[J.Wallace]

Ahh thanks man this is an answer I like, cause my friends are doing k but I'm scared cause like its really bad for you and apparently it can get scary :L

It's no worse for you than trying to get real mdma and ending up taking some stimulant made to mimic the real thing.

Ketamine is relatively safe. Problems arise when addiction occurs and that's when it begins to have negative side effects, both mental and physical. Believe it or not, it's one of the more safer drugs when you compare it to other hard drugs. It's safe in the sense that it's extremely difficult to overdose on it because it will knock you out cold in a K-hole before you even come close to a fatal overdose. It has no come down either, and barely any side effects. The worst I've experienced with Ketamine is a sick feeling, almost like I was going to puke. This can be prevented by doing small bumps at a time till you reach a point where you are comfortable.

 

[Chesh]

if i do ket when i have a cold i feel a bit dizzy/woozie/giddy/groggy for like 30-60 minutes after it wears off

that's literally the worst side effect i've experienced with ket but im pretty responsible with my use.

 

[patra]

You know what, thanks I think ill wait till I'm older before I take mdma but I'm scared ill change my mind then and never experience the best time of my life :L are there any uppers as safe as weed?

You wont change your mind, I promise you. If you're intent on trying it, save it for a specific birthday - do your research, practice harm reduction, be safe, and make it a wonderful experience later on.

As far as other uppers go, I am not well-versed in that but I'm sure you can go ahead and read through the other discussions and possibly get a better understanding. I know it might sound lame, but I seriously think even just a few redbulls might do the trick for you if you want to dance and be talkative.

 

[crackhead420]

You wont change your mind, I promise you. If you're intent on trying it, save it for a specific birthday - do your research, practice harm reduction, be safe, and make it a wonderful experience later on.

As far as other uppers go, I am not well-versed in that but I'm sure you can go ahead and read through the other discussions and possibly get a better understanding. I know it might sound lame, but I seriously think even just a few redbulls might do the trick for you if you want to dance and be talkative.

LAME!!!! Ahaha ok thanks man also to the guy saying k is safe I thought - its a fucking horse tranquillizer :L - it makes you crazy - it can make you feel like your staying still but can't move like that nightmare felling :L thanks

 

[Darksidesam]

Right Im closing this thread now, You've had all the information you could get given to you.

The decision is all up to you now.