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Almost every drug in the book is a crystal at room temperature, in pure form.
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Sometimes in pure form quite a few drugs are unstable at room temperature.

MDMA in pure form for example at room temperature is an oiley liquid

- is trying mdma ONCE bad?
- is laughing gass occassionally bad?
- how is the comedown of mdma?
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Depends on what you define as bad. Taking drugs at such a young age isnt ideal but only you can make this choice. If I read this in the way I think you mean it then taking a relatively medium dose of MDMA once should be okay.

Laughing gas again has its negatives but once again if taken once in a while I doubt you will feel an instant negative effect from it.

The comedown of MDMA depends on quite a few factors to answer this. Some of the factors to consider are MDMA history, Age, Dose, Mind State, Genetics, Health, Fitness these are just a few factors that will have an influence. Some come downs I have had I have enjoyed others have been horror stories.
 
Darksidesam said:
Any dealer who offers to sell to a minor is WRONG
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Futura, props on the hive avatar mang.

Anyway, I agree with sam. I wouldn't sell a 15 year old MDMA if they asked me, I'd tell them to fuck off.
I was 16 when i first tried it, but to be honest, I seem to have been more responsible with MDMA than most. I already had my DOC, and I didn't use MDMA often because I was using other drugs often instead.

You probably/most likely wont be able to find good shit anyway at 15. Most of the shit sold at shows/"raves" tends to be fake, and I know personally at 16 I pretty much could not get it, and when I could, it would be in the form of overpriced pills.

And you're naive to think that drug dealers tell the truth about how good their shit is. Every time I've bought drugs, I've been told what I bought was "fire". Now with MDxx and that kinda things, I had a tendency to buy shit that was indeed "fire", but I wasn't buying it off retards either. I've had drug dealers (Heroin dealers) tell me their shit is strong as fuck so many times, and most of the time, it wasn't. A good dealer will let the product speak for itself, IMO. Because if it is good shit, then you'd know once you did it anyway, so there's no reason for them to try to tell you about how great it is, if it is actually great stuff. IMO.

MDMA is not a liquid in "pure form" at room temperature. MDMA FREEBASE is a liquid, but you will never encounter that on the street, because MDMA is always in the HCL salt form pretty much on the street. Freebase oil is volatile, and makes absolutely no sense to try to sell.

I've never heard of people snorting the shit instead of eating it (well, I know people will snort it, because I have, but I've never heard of people only blowing it and not eating it, nor have I heard of most people taking MDMA this way. I think you just associate with morons most likely, because just about every younger kid I've ever seen at the few all ages shows I've been to, has been a complete moron about drugs) either.

if you must do it, at least buy it off someone who isn't a fucking idiot...
even the heroin dealers I know sound smarter than your dealer, and dope dealers are complete hoodrats.
 
crackhead420 said:
Hmm some very good points there but I'm mainly going to the rave for the music and girls, sober I never talk to girls and I'm fucking shy and can't even dance but if I try mdma once then this gives me the chance to meet new people, have a great time, experience this at least once in my life and not look like an idiot at a rave, thanks I just want to get more confident
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Oh..... It really breaks my heart to read this, I wish we could talk in person.

I know you're a good person, I know you are capable of dealing with these issues. SO many young people go through this...... SO many of us went through this. You don't need dope for any of this.

Ok, you take mdma, *IF* you get the real stuff and do it correctly, you'll likely have fun. A lot of fun. For a few hours.

I promise you though, if you work at your personal issues and grow to overcome them without using drugs, you're going to feel a lot better about yourself then you ever would with mdma, and that'll last you a lifetime.

If you feel shy, especially around girls, forget the mdma, I can help you, and its free, and you don't need a test kit. Stop focusing on yourself and how uncomfortable you feel, and put your focus and attention on how the other person is feeling, what the other person is saying and doing, what is going on around you two, etc. Shyness paralyzes people because they end up being focused to an extreme degree on themselves and what is going on inside them and on the outrageous imaginings they have of other people judging or evaluating them.

In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and make a prediction: If you skip the drugs, and work at self-improvement, and achieve that over the next few years, and when you're say 23 you decide, Okay, now I'm gonna try this mdma stuff, that first roll will far surpass the first roll you'll have if you take it now. And you'll think back on this thread and be thankful for the advice you got. And then you'll return to Bluelight, and you'll eventually read about some shy teenager who is considering taking mdma, and you'll think, I have some good advice I'd like to share with him.....
 
squarerootof23 said:
Oh..... It really breaks my heart to read this, I wish we could talk in person.

I know you're a good person, I know you are capable of dealing with these issues. SO many young people go through this...... SO many of us went through this. You don't need dope for any of this.

Ok, you take mdma, *IF* you get the real stuff and do it correctly, you'll likely have fun. A lot of fun. For a few hours.

I promise you though, if you work at your personal issues and grow to overcome them without using drugs, you're going to feel a lot better about yourself then you ever would with mdma, and that'll last you a lifetime.

If you feel shy, especially around girls, forget the mdma, I can help you, and its free, and you don't need a test kit. Stop focusing on yourself and how uncomfortable you feel, and put your focus and attention on how the other person is feeling, what the other person is saying and doing, what is going on around you two, etc. Shyness paralyzes people because they end up being focused to an extreme degree on themselves and what is going on inside them and on the outrageous imaginings they have of other people judging or evaluating them.

In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and make a prediction: If you skip the drugs, and work at self-improvement, and achieve that over the next few years, and when you're say 23 you decide, Okay, now I'm gonna try this mdma stuff, that first roll will far surpass the first roll you'll have if you take it now. And you'll think back on this thread and be thankful for the advice you got. And then you'll return to Bluelight, and you'll eventually read about some shy teenager who is considering taking mdma, and you'll think, I have some good advice I'd like to share with him.....
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Ok first of all I'd like to say thanks for this help yeah but anyways, I naturally can't be confident because like idk its hard to explain. Anyways I was just wondering like if its fairly safe for me to do this. Oh and trust me if your at a rave or something its kinda shit if your sober or on weed cause I smoked some sativa and I didn't dance at all and fell asleep for a bit :L
So yeah I kinda need to use it.

Also to the guy who said something about the dealer, that's kinda annoying because my last weed connection found out I was a kid when he sold to me now he never sells to me :( but at least I have a good dealer now :)
 
Futura, props on the hive avatar mang.
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Clearly an oldskooler ;) Theres a site on TOR now that has a rebuild of the hive. Its only a snap unfortunately so you cant add to it.

MDMA is not a liquid in "pure form" at room temperature. MDMA FREEBASE is a liquid, but you will never encounter that on the street, because MDMA is always in the HCL salt form pretty much on the street. Freebase oil is volatile, and makes absolutely no sense to try to sell.
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Yes kinda true. I suppose purest possible form at room temperature might be a better description. I guess which is purer freebase or salt is an interesting debate :) I guess due to the weight of the relevant acid molecule then the freebase is purer.

I always wondered about a more smokable form of MDMA. I wonder how the freebase oil would stand up to smoking? Probably not too well. Its not that stable anyway I guess with a flame it might vape before anything hits the lungs. I dont know for sure.
 
I'm not here to tell you what you should or shouldn't do so here's the scoop. I tried MDMA when I was about 16 or 17 the first few times were in my basement with a few friends, our group of friends were ne'er so close as when we were all rolling together. That being said at a rave the roll is totally different. You have energy and what to dance but if you shy like me like you say you are it doesn't help you approach new people. In my experience it amplifies your feelings for people you already know but strangers are still strangers and only yourself can make you make an introduction not any chemical.

Tips
1. Eat it not snort it (trust me I've gotten chemical burns in my mouth from bad shit can't imagine it in you nose)
^ good example of shitty cut MDMA
2. Test it, if your not ganna get a test kit than taste a little first, if its sweet or makes you tingle or feel numb its no good stay away. Real shit should taste bitter and the better the quality the more it'll make you gag.
3. Watch how much you drink, most people know to drink a lot of water but what they don't know is that behind dehydration and over heating, over hydration is the next most common form of death. I was told by my pharmacology student buddy that MDMA actually makes you hold in water, so the rule of thumb for me is for every hour of dancing drink a bottle of water if your not dancing you should lower your water intake.
4. Know the signs of hyperthermia other wise known as over heating. If you've been sweating and all the sudden get cold you need to cool off IMMEDIATELY.
5. Finally just some advice there's no roll like your first so make sure if your ganna do it get good quality and have good friends around.

Now for the come down, it can be horrible, hell it has the nickname of "Suicide Tuesday" for a reason. You may feel depressed, tired, aggravated, and even sucidal. Physically you may have a fever, nausea, and just in general feeling sick.
My advise on the comedown.
1. Invest in 5htp take one 100mg dose before bed but make sure the MDMA isn't still active in your system or you may start a whole new role at least that's what it did for me. Upon waking up take another 5htp and drink something high in vitamin-c and citric acid. I don't recommend any stimulants to combat the drowsiness because it can lead to an increased heart rate and just in general make you woozy so no monster/red bull/whatever.
3. Sleep as much as possible to let your body recover.
Eat as soo as possible.
4.Darksidedsams has a good natural way to make the comedown quicker that involves a list of foods that are easy to eat every day and is in my opinion better than 5htp

Finally for your gas question
Again I heard this from Pharmacology buddy but it has the potential to form holes in your brain (I'm assuming the laughing gas is nitrous-oxide) especially since most of the stuff you buy any where is food-service grade the use by a Chef and thus is allowed more impurities.
Hope I helped and that you can now make a well informed disisicion. My one word is I have to warn you it is easy to get addicted to and alters your life and mind in ways that can never be reversed so think long in heard about the potential down sides to making this choice. However I wish you the best of luck and if you do decide to do it isloce to hear your experience.
 
Guru4you420 said:
I'm not here to tell you what you should or shouldn't do so here's the scoop. I tried MDMA when I was about 16 or 17 the first few times were in my basement with a few friends, our group of friends were ne'er so close as when we were all rolling together. That being said at a rave the roll is totally different. You have energy and what to dance but if you shy like me like you say you are it doesn't help you approach new people. In my experience it amplifies your feelings for people you already know but strangers are still strangers and only yourself can make you make an introduction not any chemical.

Tips
1. Eat it not snort it (trust me I've gotten chemical burns in my mouth from bad shit can't imagine it in you nose)
^ good example of shitty cut MDMA
2. Test it, if your not ganna get a test kit than taste a little first, if its sweet or makes you tingle or feel numb its no good stay away. Real shit should taste bitter and the better the quality the more it'll make you gag.
3. Watch how much you drink, most people know to drink a lot of water but what they don't know is that behind dehydration and over heating, over hydration is the next most common form of death. I was told by my pharmacology student buddy that MDMA actually makes you hold in water, so the rule of thumb for me is for every hour of dancing drink a bottle of water if your not dancing you should lower your water intake.
4. Know the signs of hyperthermia other wise known as over heating. If you've been sweating and all the sudden get cold you need to cool off IMMEDIATELY.
5. Finally just some advice there's no roll like your first so make sure if your ganna do it get good quality and have good friends around.

Now for the come down, it can be horrible, hell it has the nickname of "Suicide Tuesday" for a reason. You may feel depressed, tired, aggravated, and even sucidal. Physically you may have a fever, nausea, and just in general feeling sick.
My advise on the comedown.
1. Invest in 5htp take one 100mg dose before bed but make sure the MDMA isn't still active in your system or you may start a whole new role at least that's what it did for me. Upon waking up take another 5htp and drink something high in vitamin-c and citric acid. I don't recommend any stimulants to combat the drowsiness because it can lead to an increased heart rate and just in general make you woozy so no monster/red bull/whatever.
3. Sleep as much as possible to let your body recover.
Eat as soo as possible.
4.Darksidedsams has a good natural way to make the comedown quicker that involves a list of foods that are easy to eat every day and is in my opinion better than 5htp

Finally for your gas question
Again I heard this from Pharmacology buddy but it has the potential to form holes in your brain (I'm assuming the laughing gas is nitrous-oxide) especially since most of the stuff you buy any where is food-service grade the use by a Chef and thus is allowed more impurities.
Hope I helped and that you can now make a well informed disisicion. My one word is I have to warn you it is easy to get addicted to and alters your life and mind in ways that can never be reversed so think long in heard about the potential down sides to making this choice. However I wish you the best of luck and if you do decide to do it isloce to hear your experience.
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Thanks!!!!!!!
Most useful one for testing if its real for free :D
Anyways I thought mdma would make me more social and talk to people more and your saying it doesn't :L also yeah so thanks and you worried me about the laughing gas, I thought it was safe as dentists use it :(
 
I was thinking about getting drunk instead but idk how that would go at a rave cause I've never been drunk and idk if it will make me dance or make me more socaible :L also it would be quite hard to get alcohol at my age
 
Guru4you420 said:
Finally for your gas question
Again I heard this from Pharmacology buddy but it has the potential to form holes in your brain (I'm assuming the laughing gas is nitrous-oxide) especially since most of the stuff you buy any where is food-service grade the use by a Chef and thus is allowed more impurities.
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Only thing you really have to worry about with nos (apart from asphyxiation if you're a dickhead) is vitamin B12 deficiency which only occurs with extremely high use (main case I heard of was some guy doing hundreds of whippets a day)
 
Chesh said:
Only thing you really have to worry about with nos (apart from asphyxiation if you're a dickhead) is vitamin B12 deficiency which only occurs with extremely high use (main case I heard of was some guy doing hundreds of whippets a day)
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Ahh thanks so laughing gas is safe in moderate use (once a week max )
 
crackhead420 said:
Ahh thanks so laughing gas is safe in moderate use (once a week max )
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Yeah definitely. As long as you remember it stops you from realising you're not getting any Oxygen, so don't keep huffing on a balloon until you pass out or anything.
 
crackhead420 said:
Idk if its chunks crystals or powder but you snort this and the dealer probably wouldn't want me to test it cause it just sounds stupid...
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Red Flag!

"The dealer probably wouldn't want me to test it cause it just sounds stupid..."

OR he knows his product is not MDMA and doesn't want you testing it and finding out it's really some RC stimulant.

"It just sounds stupid". I'm done trying to help you, kid. If testing the purity of a chemical you are willingly ingesting, if knowing for a fact whether or not a substance you are going to take is the real deal or not is considered "Stupid", than quite frankly you shouldn't be doing drugs to begin with.
 
J.Wallace said:
Red Flag!

"The dealer probably wouldn't want me to test it cause it just sounds stupid..."

OR he knows his product is not MDMA and doesn't want you testing it and finding out it's really some RC stimulant.

"It just sounds stupid". I'm done trying to help you, kid. If testing the purity of a chemical you are willingly ingesting, if knowing for a fact whether or not a substance you are going to take is the real deal or not is considered "Stupid", than quite frankly you shouldn't be doing drugs to begin with.
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Ahahaha I'm gonna do that free test from the guy on this site and I haven't asked the dealer about testing yet
 
crackhead420 said:
I was thinking about getting drunk instead but idk how that would go at a rave cause I've never been drunk and idk if it will make me dance or make me more socaible :L also it would be quite hard to get alcohol at my age
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Crazy that it's easier for you to get supposed MDMA easier than alcohol. If all you want is to lighten up a bit so you can talk to some girls and feel better about dancing, a beer will do the trick. Squareroot has given you some excellent advice, and I agree with everything he has to say - if you've read through any of the threads on here you see that a lot of us really prize our first time rolling, and I'm really thankful that my first time wasn't when I was so young, and that I really had the ability to make it the absolute best.

MDMA isn't a superman-drug.. doesn't turn you in to a different person, give you confidence or make you an amazing dancer. You will spend the majority of your time focusing on the music, dancing, and possibly being more open with other people than you may find yourself typically... but none of this will last after the event and after your peak. You will come down, and you may have some issues to deal with after this... you will still be shy and not have confidence. I agree that you should work on other ways to work around your shyness and lack of confidence... there are easy things to do and after some time you can conquer it... many of us have on our own! I promise it's not as hard as you think it is, nor is your shyness or lack of confidence as permanent as you suggest.

RememberTheAlamo! said:
Futura, props on the hive avatar mang.
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;) one of the reasons I liked futura even before I saw all the no-nonsense info he posts!
 
patra said:
Crazy that it's easier for you to get supposed MDMA easier than alcohol. If all you want is to lighten up a bit so you can talk to some girls and feel better about dancing, a beer will do the trick. Squareroot has given you some excellent advice, and I agree with everything he has to say - if you've read through any of the threads on here you see that a lot of us really prize our first time rolling, and I'm really thankful that my first time wasn't when I was so young, and that I really had the ability to make it the absolute best.

MDMA isn't a superman-drug.. doesn't turn you in to a different person, give you confidence or make you an amazing dancer. You will spend the majority of your time focusing on the music, dancing, and possibly being more open with other people than you may find yourself typically... but none of this will last after the event and after your peak. You will come down, and you may have some issues to deal with after this... you will still be shy and not have confidence. I agree that you should work on other ways to work around your shyness and lack of confidence... there are easy things to do and after some time you can conquer it... many of us have on our own! I promise it's not as hard as you think it is, nor is your shyness or lack of confidence as permanent as you suggest.

;) one of the reasons I liked futura even before I saw all the no-nonsense info he posts!
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I get what your saying but your all acting like its really bad when you take it just because I'm a child, sure there is the age difference and my brains still developing but 1 use will make no noticable differences in my life.

Anyways if alcohol will make me more confident how am I supposed to get it :L and the rave I'm going to my friends gonna do k and I definetly am NOT going to this rave sober
 
Why are you so obsessed with not being sober?

It is really bad wanting to take a mind altering chemical at such a young age. Damn it kid when I was 15 I was off hanging out with my friends playing 'he said she said' and 'who fancies who '. I grew up around drug users and they too took drugs at a very young age because they didn't know how to be social and bubbly and get girls, but that is where problems start! I saw then crumble into nothing and not be able to be normal, ever! when you figure out how to have a good time without drugs then take drugs if you so wish dude.

I'm 21 now, and I didn't start taking drugs until I was 18-19. Even now I wish I had waited longer. There is just too much to learn, life lessons that is before you can alter your mind like this.

You say you will only take it once until your older. I can tell you now, you wont wait! You told us that you wont feel confident unless your not sober, this is a huge red flag in its self. Think about it, what if this MDMA you get gives you what you want and makes you better with people and gets you your girl or whatever? you ARE going to want it again, and 5 years is a very long time to a 15 year old :) isn't it?

If the rave you are going to is illegal anyway you should have no problems getting alcohol dude :)

Stay safe man! :P
 
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