Trying Kratom for the first time IM NERVOUS AS FUCK

[ldawg616]

Well if anyone has happend to read the few posts that I have, I have severe anxiety, and I don't want to have an extreme panic attack or anything, I have those fat *no brand name/source name discussion*With pirate weariing red...15 grams Thai Capsules.

I take geodone 80mg and I'm tapering off my zoloft to get on paxil currently at 200mg's


I told the lady that the depression from the tapering is really fucking me up and stressing me the fuck out, so she told me to take 5 of them, but Im worried that I could overdose or have a panic attack or something.

I weigh 195lbs and 5'9,is that the right ammount for me? I don't wanna be all up and gitery, I just want a pleaseant euphoric high that I can smoke some bud with.

Your help would be great I wish I could rep, but there doesnt seem to be a rep system

 

[Seattle_Stranger]

What is the capacity of each capsule? Depending on how much is in them, you're going to want to take at least ~2-4g to feel any effect. It's nearly physically impossible to OD on kratom unless you're using crazy tinctures and extracts (which it doesn't sound like you are). If you take too much, you'll simply get a little nauseus, maybe jittery but even so nothing as bad as too much caffeine. Start with whatever you're comfortable taking, wait an hour, if you aren't high enough, take some more. Remember the rule of thumb, you can always take more, you can never take away what you've already taken.

Kratom is extremely gentle and forgiving. It goes great with cannabis, the compliment each other like PB&J. If you're looking for a euphoric high, you probably want to find yourself some bali kratom. Stay away from the thai strains because they're far more speedy, stimulating, reminds me of adderall. Bali is much more like opiates, is sedating and mildly stimulating at the same time, very relaxing, anxiety relieving and just plain awesome. Bali is my favorite strain by very far. Some Indo strains are ok, but still nothing like some good ol' plain commercial bali leaf.

Also, instead of wasting money on pre-made capsules, you should buy plain, powdered leaf and a capsule machine, and cap it up yourself! Otherwise you're paying a stiff premium for someone else to cap them for you. Furthermore, taking kratom in capsule form isn't very efficient. The best way is to mix in the powder with a liquid like orange juice and chug it down. It hits MUCH faster, you peak stronger and more euphoric, and you simply just get more out of your kratom. Plus you don't have to waste time/money on capsules.

Enjoy your dance with Miss K! She's seductive, but with a loose grip.

 

[ldawg616]

I don't like the stimulating part, just the nice drowsy one, but since i have the thai capsles will they wake me up or put me to sleep?

Thank you for your quick response, seattle

 

[allegator]

I don't like the stimulating part, just the nice drowsy one, but since i have the thai capsles will they wake me up or put me to sleep?

There is no real way to tell as it differs per batch and per user. I find low levels stimulating and higher levels sedating, but if you go a little past high you get into nausea quite quickly. Really though the stimulating isn't even stimulating in the traditional sense - it's just a very clear headed empathetic feel good clean energy. Seattle_Stranger said it best as kratom is "very forgiving." The only thing that could possible make you not enjoy your experience is if you go into feeling nervous and worried. Just relax, embrace it, and I guarentee if you start low and work your way up it will have the same negative side effects as a cup of warm chamomile tea

 

[nsauce]

I have taken *no brand name/source name discussion* many times. The capsules are 500mg each, so 2 caps = 1mg . I found that, for me, I would have to take about 10 or 12 caps to feel anything at all.

 

[allegator]

^It might be helpful if you state any opioid tolerance you have as well as add a little disclaimer that this isn't advice for the OP to use that much. You might try 'less is more' yourself as well.

 

[ldawg616]

I have no opiod tolerance, never taken anything besides weed and benzos. Took these 45 minutes ago and I don't feel a damn thing

i took 5

 

[nsauce]

^It might be helpful if you state any opioid tolerance you have as well as add a little disclaimer that this isn't advice for the OP to use that much. You might try 'less is more' yourself as well.

I did state "for me" .

This is the dose at which I actually FEEL something. Less than this, and I feel nothing. ME . Not someone else.

 

[ldawg616]

well i ended up taking 8 in total, complete wast of *no prices*


i could be too hard on it though since i took some bars earlier in the day, so it this stuff rea;;y worth buying?

 

[enduin]

They told you already: capped Kratom = ripoff. For *no prices*

you could've bought a couple ounces of premium quality leaf from a trusted vendor. If you are concerned about anxiety get Bali or Indo, and since as said with *no prices*

you get a fair amount, just start low and work your way up. Simple as that. If you start low you don't have to freak out later when stuff kicks in and you think you took too much. But Kratom is very forgiving and rarely too much.

 

[DroneLore]

I have an opiate tolerance such that I need about 20 mg of oxycodone to feel anything. I usually dose ~10 g of plain kratom leaf, but am meaning to experiment with larger (15 g) doses.

 

[Lucid420]

When it comes to thai kratom I really only need 5g of plain powdered leaf to get the desired effects. Also, i hate chugging it down so 10g would be to much anyways.

Bought some extract today which I just took. Like powder more but there wasnt any at the smartshop.(yeah yeah,pricey, I know but it was convenient.)

 

[nsauce]

They told you already: capped Kratom = ripoff. For *no prices*

yeah? well, thats just like, your opinion, man .

 

[allegator]

^If you think the conveince of purchasing capped Kratom is worth the increased cost per unit of active alkaloids then it is worth it. Otherwise it is not.

 

[Oxide]

Convenience has a price, but any way you slice it, it will always be cheaper to buy bulk leaf and cap your own. Anyway, since the OP's question was answered and this thread has started to devolve a little I'll go ahead and close it.

OP, you are welcome to bring other Kratom questions to The Kratom Thread over in OD. There happens to be a huge cache of information on Kratom in version 1 of that thread, as well.

It's worth mentioning that if you have an moderate opiate tolerance of some sort, you shouldn't expect much out of Kratom in terms of a buzz. If you don't expect miracles from it and you won't be disappointed, though.

closed.