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Trying 5APB for First Time....Advice?

SilentRoller

SilentRoller

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Greetings Blue (and Greenlighters) alike,
I finally decided to bite the 'APB Bullet' after watching this chemical since release, and now have 1 gram of 5APB arriving next week from my usual vendor. This was a last minute decision, as I was going to treat myself to some M1, but I decided I wanted something 'Non Cathione' (as I have always felt they are ever so slightly 'dirty' in the residual stim department).

After reading the Megathread and many trip reports, I still couldn't find an answer to my questions, so I figured it warrented a thread. Basically, what I would like to know is this: Dosage wise, what are we talking here? I have read reports of anything between 70-100mg, and as this is twice as potent as 6APB in weight (Never tried 6APB, but saw a mate on it after taking 200mg...Rolling balls is an understatement!); I want to be careful here. In a way, I'm slghtly concerned about taking too little, because if I'm going to deplete my serotonin etc, I might as well do it properly, as I would then have to wait a month or two regardless of dose. Any suggestions on dose would be great :)

Second, what is sleep like on this stuff? One thing I hate is being up for what feels like forever, unable to drop off to sleep. Before you ask, I don't have any Etizolam or weed, only a few ciders and the odd camomile teabag or two. I'm just hoping this doesn't tweak me out for days!

And lastly (sorry for all the questions), what is peoples experience with the come-up on this stuff? My last drug experience was Methylone, where I basically shat my pants on the come-up out of fear (as I unintentionally took a shitload. Now have scales. Not making that mistake again). As this is a new substance, I have the usual fears of horrible cardiac strain etc.....

Thanks

SR
 
It's good stuff. Basically 6-APB, but sorta subtly different. Treat it as the same kettle of fish, just with slightly smaller dosing.
 
Could you possibly expalin the differences briefly? For example, is it quite clean, or is it fairly mashy, where everyone can tell your spannered? Also, would 70mg 5APB roughly be the same as a full 6APB dose, or is that too low?
 
I found 100mg 5-APB to be the perfect dose. Its slighly more potent than 6-APB, less euphoric but makes up for it with an truly amazing bodyhigh.
The comeup is kinda funny, it comes up slower than 6-APB, with me it was ALWAYS at the 2 hour mark. You can feel slight effects after 40min, then at the 2 hour mark BANG and you think "Wooow what the hell"
 
Sorry if this sounds a bit stupid, but could you elaborate on the term "bodyhigh". Does this mean 5APB puts a large strain on your heart, or have I just mis-interpreted the term?

Also, how anxiety filled is the comeup in your experience? 100mg seems a tad high, especially if I haven't done 6APB either. Would dosing lower be a waste?
 
Bodyhigh - A pleasant body feel.

Well, I didn't feel any anxiety at all. The comeup is pretty smooth, nothing like the MDMA where you are filled with anxiety.

I'm sure if you dose lower than 100mg you would wish you took more when you are on the peak on the experience. In all 5-APB is a very pleasant and smooth ride, easy up, easy down. On 6-APB you chest gets tight for a couple of minuts. On 5-APB this doesn't happen in my experience.

Regarding sleep... I found this somewhat easier to sleep on than 6-APB, but 6-APB is close to impossible to sleep on.
I would normally drift off about 10 hours after the dose was taken, but it ain't easier sleeping on these.
 
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Cheers for the info :). Do you experience the 'loss of magic' with 5APB if used once (or less frequently) a month? The reason I ask is because quite a few state 70mg as a starting dose, but if I'm only going to experience the full on magic once, I might as well do 100mg. What's your heart rate like on 5APB? Is it as bad as high doses of Methylone?
 
My heartrate was nothing compared to high doses of Methylone. It's a small year since I did 5-APB, and I only tried it a couple of times, I didn't really notice my heartrate so I can't tell how fast it was beating.
Dont worry, the APB's is somewhat less stimulating than methylone and is alot easier on the heart and the vasoconstriction is alot less.
It's a smooth ride and non bumpy ride - enjoy it, there's nothing to worry about.

Do the 100mg, don't be disappointed the first time, it would be a shame.
 
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