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Truth ,What is your Source

A Quote by J.B.S.
I am not to surrender my light because of another's twilight, but I am not, on the other hand, to press them beyond what they are able to undersand and bear....True teaching and help must reach souls where they are.....
 
biolabear said:
Please explain. I thought truth sets you free.. I thought there was only the truth and a lie against the truth....The Duality
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Evil only exists because Good allows it to. The Duality is a mechanism to make the universe interesting, for if it was all only the manifestation of pure love, then no one would learn anything.

The Truth is never a simple concept. Seeking it is the reason we're here in the first place, and it being blatant would kind of defeat the purpose.

As Good is usually self evident, Evil is constantly moving and plotting to subvert that. Only by knowing how evil works can one truly know Good, and evil does get pretty fucked up at the end of the day.

But understand, God's Truth, by being the creator of this system, would be above both these things.
 
Think of fiction as all the lies that people latch onto in the modern world. These are considered the self evident material, while knowledge of one's own soul has taken a backseat in education. So, most people don't know what to think of Truth when they see it, because its so foreign to them.

And its just a saying.
 
And its just a saying.[/QUOTE]

Evidence Demands a Verdict
The Philosophy of Logic
Syllagistical Thinking {if you affirm the antecedent you deny the conclusion}
Statistics
Probabilities
Ignorance is not bliss... There is truth , and truth may be a saying ,but , what is spoken may be --a lie or the truth.....

Eienstien had a student that was an atheist../. He asked this student how much of total knowledge do you posses.. The student said "I didn't know, maybe 1%".
Eienstien gave this student the benifit of the doubt and said" OK lets say you posses 3% of the total knowledge in the world, don't you think GOD could live in the 97% of total Knowledge ,You don't know about.
Atheism is incorrect thinking---THERE IS NO GOD
Agnostic can be corret thinking---I don't KNOW if there is a God..
Christ spoke words like---"I am ,THE WAY, THE TRUTH, and, THE LIFE, NO man comes to the Father but by Me!!!!
I'm a Truth Seeker. This Man Christ Jesus Did He Truly Raise From the Dead.. 1Corinthians Chapter 15 Says This man Christ was seen by 500 People at one time after His ressurection.. Is this a saying... or, is this a historical fact..
 
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Jesus didn't rise from the dead, that's a metaphor: U can crucify (slander) the Truth but the truth will rise again. (The etymology of the Greek word, "devil" means to slander.) There's no real evidence Jesus existed. I don't think there's really any evidence Mohammed existed or King David or that David had a huge kingdom.

There are those who believe or have faith in God and there are those who met god through near-death experiences or entered the womb through unconscious, spontanious self-hypnotic regression. I met only one other person (beside myself) who experienced that kind of born-again experience, which really changed my life. (Same to with my two NDE's.)

Jesus is the Logos or Logic of God, that which is not logical is devil-deceiver.
 
GoddessLSD-XTC said:
There's no real evidence Jesus existed. I don't think there's really any evidence Mohammed existed or King David or that David had a huge kingdom.
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I Don't think I can believe there was never a nation of peoples ,Hebrews. There is way to much Evidence.. A good Study would be archeology Dead sea scrolls ect....Evidence that demands a verdict....
The principle of time does exist... There were generations before me,. They eat, shit ,sleep, fuck, Write ect.and because of this they leave evidence of existence.
 
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Of course there was a nation of Hebs but archeological evidence does not verify Exodus and science does not verify parting of the sea, the sun standing still, Jesus walking on water, etc.

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but what is the significance? or should I just breathe and accept the air.
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Air/breathing = Greek, pneuma = soul, spirit, demeanor.
 
You don't have to accept all the claims in the Bible or none of them. The fact that Jesus didn't walk on water or rise from the dead doesn't mean that he wasn't a person who existed.
 
Archeologist Have found chariot wheels at the bottom of the red sea.. I've seen pictures.. ..technology is fantastic. Can I believe that you are reading this message? Does cyberspace exist? History Speaks
 
Yerg said:
You don't have to accept all the claims in the Bible or none of them. The fact that Jesus didn't walk on water or rise from the dead .
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Prove that he did'nt.... There more proff that He, did than that He Did'nt {Raise from the dead} would people Die for something they did'nt believe in? The Bible is a Historical document...The more Archeology is done, the more This Book ,Called the Bible, is proven True.. Thats why theres so much archeology being done in the middle east...Those to prove its Fallacy But What happens is they end up Believing The books Reliability I dont want to argue.. Theres been enough Wars over Religion, Lets don't start one here. I wont Give in...... Some people are like.......Even if Jonah ate the Whale They would believe it, if the bible said it....
 
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It's extremely hard to prove a negative. I could challenge you to prove that I did not heal a man of leprosy last night. You would struggle. The proof that Jesus did not rise from the dead is the uncountable number of people who have failed to recreate this action (everyone that has ever lived), and the fact that to resurrect oneself is impossible given our current paradigms. The fact that a book claims that a person did this is not reliable enough. Given that you are making the claim that is at odds with all current scientific theory, I think the burden of proof falls to you rather. The bible is not a historical document, accepting this would be to deny that evolution occurred, that the Earth cannot suddenly halt its rotation around the Sun, that people cannot kill legions of soldiers with a jawbone, and many other obvious truths.
 
i think the bible is allegorical, much in the same way as Jesus himself teached through allegories and parables. it does not mean that the stories aren't true, it means they are stories. their truth is conveyed on another level. its a kind of truth does not really need an objective literal level of truth to convey itself. the literal acts only as a vessel. allegory may be much better suited to convey what was ment or experienced then the literal, dry truth of science. which is a reductionist truth.
 
I also think the Bible is allegorical. The nature of an allegory is that it is not literally true. Star Wars is a rich allegory too; that doesn't mean we should consider it historically accurate. History is meant to be objective and literal. I'm not sure if I understand the idea that a statement can be true, but not literally true.
And perception is not truth. I've perceived straight sticks to be bent when they were in water.
 
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