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Trusting test kits...

DaftPunk

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How much do you trust test kits like EZtest?
If the test indicated MDMA would you still trust it?
For someone that never tried it and doesn't know anyone who has what do you recommend?
BTW this is a great forum and it's great to see people give honst replies
 
Originally posted by DaftPunk:
How much do you trust test kits like EZtest?
If the test indicated MDMA would you still trust it?
For someone that never tried it and doesn't know anyone who has what do you recommend?
BTW this is a great forum and it's great to see people give honst replies

You can trust it close to 100% for what it's claimed to do, which is tell if there is ecstasy in the pill or not. The problem is when people get the idea that these tests mean there's only ecstasy in the pill. Another question your post implies is, "if the pill tests good, is it safe to take?" to which the answer is, even if it's pure E it's not a guarantee of it's being "safe" to take.
 
How much do you trust test kits like EZtest?
I trust my test kit to an extent but of course only using a test kit such as the ez test which is a marquis reagent based kit it is again not going to be perfect at telling me what is in my pills although the main purpose is to indicate if a pill contains an md** substance.
If I had a more advanced test kit I would perhaps trust it more although the fact is that pills can contain more than one ingredient and this can produce a positive result for md** but that doesnt mean the pill doesnt contain other things, even with the ez test x-treme some mixes could be hard to work out.
Although ez test say if it doesnt test for just mdma/mdea by going blue with phase 2 then throw it away.
All the test kits could be seen to have some sort of areas where people could question the validity of results sadly.
Although I tell people all the time testing their pills is important and primarily direct them towards an ez test classic or another marquis reagent based kit, I still feel kind of unsure about doing this as a pill with mdma and pma in it would not be distinguished by using this test kit so in after using a test kit people could come under some danger.
Does that mean people shouldnt bother at all? No I think that having a test kit is important although it shouldn be used as a crystal guarantee that the pill is safe, even pills with just mdma in them can be see as dangerous depending on the user.
If the test indicated MDMA would you still trust it?
I dont think there is a test on the market which can say mdma well not without going into TLC plates but I am guessing you are refering to the commonly sold reagent kits then that isnt possible, as the reactions for the md** are all too similar for you to be able to judge what is definitely mdma.
You can tell what is md** of course with the marquis kits and you can even tell mdma/mdea apart from mda with the ez test x-treme because of primary and secondary amines. The mandelin kit which is more commonly known as the e2 also claims to be able to seperate these amines but the reaction can still be hard to define.
Again if you read my answer to your first question, my trust from a test kit reaction is there but its not something I am 100% with as I can see definite areas in which the reaction could indeed lead you into a false sense of security.
For someone that never tried it and doesn't know anyone who has what do you recommend?
It depends probably on where you live as different areas have different problems with different adulterants, the most advanced kit would be the ez test x-treme although if you lived in Australia where there is a big ketamine problem this wouldnt be as much use to you.
Also dancesafe have made a test kit which contains the mecke reagent which gives a yellow reaction to dxm enabling people to tell dxm apart from mdma and this would be of use to people in America and that is where it is from.
The e1 and e2 kit is probably recommended for those in Australia, dancesafe for those in America and ez test x-treme for Europe although most of these kits would work anywhere. You need to work out to what extent you are interested in what you are getting and obviously how much you care about making sure you know what you are getting.
Again the reliability can be questioned with all, most people still opt for a simple marquis kit as this can detect whether any md** is present and obviously if there is no reaction then dont take it.
There is a chart here which shows what all the test kits can test for and an FAQ here.
 
Thank you so much djfriendly & masheadatronic for taking the time to answer my questions. I got the answers I was looking for however I'm still nervous about trying them...
 
Trying them? Trying what, the pills or the test kits? I'm not going to give advice about the pills, but if you do not test your pills (or at the very least get them from someone that you know that does, which does not sound the case given what you have indicated) then you are not being as safe as you can be short of actually not taking the pills.
The test kits will certainly give an indication if MDMA is NOT in the pill, by either changing a different colour or not changing colour at all. If this happens I would guarantee that your pill does not contain MDMA and your chances of copping something more harmful has increased a thousand-fold.
Follow one rule "If it doesn't turn (purple)black, throw it back".
If the cost of test kits balks you then think this: If you can't afford to test your pills, then you can't afford to be buying drugs.
 
Hi !
I am here one of people whom always have lab results for my pills. I use EZ xtreme since 1 year now, and even if the test cannot tell you all about what is in a pill, they are precise enought to trust them. All my tests have been confirmed by the lab, without any surprise.....
So you can trust them, knowing anyway that you are using un illegal drug, not approved and controlled by any official lab, it is always at your own risk....
[ 07 August 2002: Message edited by: monsignore ]
 
I'd trust my pill tester with my life...every MDxx pill has always come up, every pill were there was no reaction, despite what a DD says, has been bunk or non-MDxx containing. I'd say I've tested over 60 types/batches of pills and it's been 100% correct.
Never believe "this batch doesn't test up" over a a clear test.
 
Originally posted by peak_chaser:
I'd trust my pill tester with my life
Isnt that a little irresponsible?
Even when I test a pill with marquis reagent and it appears to be md** there is still that chance of it having pma in there aswell.
I guess it depends where you live as to how much trust you can put into the more simple test kits, if I lived in America or Australia I think I would be less trusting of my test kit but here I dont think it so much of a problem in Britain although trusting your life with your test kit is very naive.
 
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