Opioids Trust the system: My system of microdosing Suboxone daily, and being able to still use opioids on it.

[Syntherize]

Absolutely not. From my experience with Suboxone, I've not only learned from those experiences, but former doctors themselves, that this happening is HIGHLY exaggerated. I've never had anything close to that happen. Generally, I think that happens more often when someone is being induced onto Bupe, as in, they have none in their system and then they take their first dose too early. But I have taken a first dose induction after a long binge as short as about 14 hours after my last opioid dose, and I was totally fine. When I've been microdosing the 0.5mg or less, I've taken it just 12 hours after, and it felt completely normal. Obviously if youre taking extended release pills, or methadone, this is WAY different. We're talking short acting instant release pills here like Vicodin Norco Tylenol 3/4 Percocet Roxicodone Dilaudid.

Just wait until you get something cut with fent in your system and then you’ll see what will happen to you if you only wait 14 hours to take the subs after your last dose. I’ve been doing opioids on and off since I was 13, and I always got off them on my own without rehab even with a gram a day H habit (the real tan/brown). These days most of those pills you named are all fake pressies containing fentanyl or nitazines. Fentanyl is more lipid soluble than heroin so once you have some in your system if you don’t wait north of 36-48hrs to take your subs you will get some kicks enjoying your first PW. Another thing I will tell you is that you shouldn’t ever get so cocky/over confident with your opioid usage, because the more times you get hooked/off the more rapidly your body will adapt to becoming dependent sooner. Taking buprenorphine with other full mu opioid agonists is simply messing with your receptors while increasing your tolerance overall. It’s better to get off and take tolerance breaks for a few months even years than to use both of these substances concomitantly.

 

[fuckabout89]

Just wait until you get something cut with fent in your system and then you’ll see what will happen to you if you only wait 14 hours to take the subs after your last dose. I’ve been doing opioids on and off since I was 13, and I always got off them on my own without rehab even with a gram a day H habit (the real tan/brown). These days most of those pills you named are all fake pressies containing fentanyl or nitazines. Fentanyl is more lipid soluble than heroin so once you have some in your system if you don’t wait north of 36-48hrs to take your subs you will get some kicks enjoying your first PW. Another thing I will tell you is that you shouldn’t ever get so cocky/over confident with your opioid usage, because the more times you get hooked/off the more rapidly your body will adapt to becoming dependent sooner. Taking buprenorphine with other full mu opioid agonists is simply messing with your receptors while increasing your tolerance overall. It’s better to get off and take tolerance breaks for a few months even years than to use both of these substances concomitantly.

Yeah I'll never understand going on subs instead growing a pair and going through the WD. It doesnt even feel like you actaully quite the drug when you do that.

 

[Syntherize]

Yeah I'll never understand going on subs instead growing a pair and going through the WD. It doesnt even feel like you actaully quite the drug when you do that.

Well, going through wd coming off a gram a day heroin habit will be shit for about two weeks to a month. I’ve gone cold turkey when I was younger, but doing that is really stressful on your body and mind. There’s no need to do that if you know how to taper properly while understanding the science behind it. Going cold turkey is just stupid at this point in time since there are so many options when it comes to opioid cessation therapy.

 

[fuckabout89]

Well, going through wd coming off a gram a day heroin habit will be shit for about two weeks to a month. I’ve gone cold turkey when I was younger, but doing that is really stressful on your body and mind. There’s no need to do that if you know how to taper properly while understanding the science behind it. Going cold turkey is just stupid at this point in time since there are so many options when it comes to opioid cessation therapy.

Gone cold turkey off Benzos many times, yeah im just talking about people that stay on the replacement for life your not actually quiting opioids at that point.

Doing it the old fashion way makes you not want to go through that again also lol.

 

[Syntherize]

Gone cold turkey off Benzos many times, yeah im just talking about people that stay on the replacement for life your not actually quiting opioids at that point.

Damn, getting off benzos is rough and dangerous too due to the potential seizures and death. I’m currently dependent on alcohol (daily use), but I only have like one or two drinks per waking hour so I’m not trashed and can still function. I’m supposed to have my Librium and Clonazepam scripts, but traveling is making it hard for me to get those filled right now, and it’s really annoying. GABA drug withdrawal is some of the worst in existence. I’d prefer to be in opioid withdrawal, because at least with real heroin or even real oxys I could dose only once per day and not feel sick until ~24 hours later (my doses were high though).

P.S. Yes I agree, staying on maintenance drugs forever is nonsense at that point, and you’re just replacing one habit for another one. Nowadays, there’s a lawsuit against the makers of Suboxone due to tooth loss, but in all reality I seriously doubt that the Subs are the cause, because taking ANY drug for years on end will come with its own risks.