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Tripping for first time in 5 years

magicstix

magicstix

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I have not tripped in over 5 years due to a bad shroom trip.

Im in a happy time of my life and will be around people I trust. I feel confident I can handle tripping again.

Just I dunno. Imma be up in the woods near a river with close family members.

Also should I bring my raving light gloves for these substances? Will I be able to give and recieve light shows with the same amusment mdma brings me? (mdma my fav drug)


I was kinda shocked how shroom during a bad trip like forced me to think bad things. I hope 2cb and LSD are more forgiving.

LSD compared with 2cb which substance is more likely to induce anxiety?

p.s I like how mdma makes me feel like im floating and kinda makes me forget and not worry about my body and I find mdma gives better pain relief than opiates.

on weed i usually freak out when my heart starts to beat to fast or something feels weird in my body. this never happens on mdma for me (even after taking 400mg, i still feel calmer than a bad weed high). shrooms also made me freak out about my body. it was like I could feel every organ working and my heart having really weird palpitations like it would beat 3 times really fast then stop and then beat 6 times then stop and then beat with the music that was playing. I could not tell if it was in my head or actually physically having that weird beat.

i hear 2cb can be very "bodyish" and was concerned this may be that freak out feeling i get on weed when i freak out about my body.

either way ill be prepared with benzos in either case if anything
 
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It's very common for people to find their anxiety is reduced on MDMA but worsened on weed. Some researchers are looking into MDMA as a treatment for PTSD.

I wouldn't take such heroic doses of MDMA though- 400 mg is way too much, unless it's cut. Most people like to stay within the 100-150 mg range.

If weed makes you uncomfortable, I'd be very cautious about taking LSD. LSD is known for inducing a "mindfuck," which can throw you for a loop if you get anxious and try to fight it. Start with a low dose, like half a tab. I haven't taken shrooms but I expect your LSD experience will be pretty similar.

I also haven't taken 2C-B, but most people seem to think it's less mind-affecting than LSD, more clear-headed. 2C-E was pretty mindfucking for me.

I doubt a lightshow is going to be as enjoyable as it would be on MDMA, but to each his own.
 
I don't think (vaguely speaking) that as far as classic psychedelics go, one is more likely to produce anxiety than the other. It is much more related to set and setting. If you are worried about body load though, I would stay away from 2c-b. It is very good at bringing your attention to parts of your body that have been neglected. I confronted my posture and eating disorder the first time I tried 2c-b. It was intense, but rewarding and enjoyable. I recommend insufflating 2c-b as it shortens the anxious come up.
 
I find LSD to be easier to handle than shrooms four times outta five. If you're feeling good, happy, looking forward to the trip and trust the folks you are with I wouldn't fear a modest to kinda-large dose of LSD. If you find yourself more fearful than excited on that day I would just drink a beer and hang out with your friends.
Never did 2C-B but I've done most of it's relatives, wouldn't fear that either as long as I had a clean bathroom to possibly make dirty, reported to be even easier on the mind. I'd rather do acid or both if I was you.
 
2cb felt a lot similar to MDMA in a way for me.i got the initial rush and everything just seemed to be okay. There was a sense of serene calmness ( except for minor stomach discomfort between the 1-2 hour mark for me) tactile sensations were great and eating is possible on the comedown ( in fact everything seems to be quite delicious on the comedown. Eating while peaking while possible was a very weird experience) 20 mg seemed like a trippy roll to me.
 
Most people take MDMA to feel good. Most people take LSD/shrooms to have powerful hallucinogenic experiences. 2c-b is somewhere in the middle. While MDMA can be profound in its euphoria, I feel its a much more predictable high. But MDMA has never really been my cup of tea, so everyone is different.

If you're going to trip, be prepared to face some sort of negative energy/anxiety. I feel it's inevitable that at some point in a trip, you feel quite less than perfect. You just have to harness this energy and turn it to something good.

If you're a lover of MDMA, than I can't imagine 2c-B would be too overstimulating or uncomfortable. It can cause some nausea, but otherwise I've found 2c drugs to be pretty easy going, even the heavy hitting 2c-E (depending on dose of course).

Just start small like clocktower said. And if you're going to trip, do one substance or the other don't combine them for your first time. I'd say start off with like half a tab of LSD or 10 mg of 2c-B orally. If you sniff the 2c-B it will burn like razors in the nose. You can always take more you can never take less. Be safe dude.
 
^ I really feel that people grossly exaggerate the pain that accompanies snorting a 2c compound. Perhaps I am biased, as the first thing I ever snorted was MDMA. 2c-b was relatively pain free compared to MDMA. A slight burning sensation builds for 10-15 minutes and then subsides. In my opinion, it is very worth it in order to skip the unnecessarily long 2c-b come up.
 
^ you say it as if it's fact, when in reality it is personal opinion..

what makes advising insufflating a bad idea? It would be no different than recommending lemon tek'd mushroom over just eating them plain. One allows for a much more rapid and smooth transition into the 'other', while the alternative is spending upwards of an hour feeling anxious as nervous as you slowly start to feel weird.

Have you tried insufflated vs. oral 2c-b? Orally it results in about 2 hours of 'oh fuck I shouldn't have done this' until you finally reach a comfortable place and can enjoy what 2c-b has to offer. Insufflated, you not only save material, but the come up is reduced to about 20 minutes until you are able to lay back and let the magic unfold.

I am rarely an advocate of insufflation, but ketamine, 2c-b, and DPT are the exceptions in my book.
 
what makes advising insufflating a bad idea?
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20 minutes of potentially horrible face pain for one.

Also, IME, the quick-onset ROAs can really change the character of the experience with 2c-x, sure it'll probably produce a more fun experience, but more like a psychedelic stimulant than a stimulating psychedelic (haven't tried 2c-b in particular though, so I am generalizing). I believe it's easier to get into an unhealthy relationship with these drugs when they are snorted/vaped/injected.

Furthermore, if the person has such trouble handling come-up anxiety that it is necessary to take them like this to enjoy them, they ought to rethink their psychedelic use.


Anyway magicstix, if you feel you'r ready, just step into the experience and enjoy yourself. Don't fret about what to take, or what to do, just do whatever comes natural.
 
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20 minutes of potentially horrible face pain for one.
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+1 I will never ever do this again! Also the rapid come up via insufflation can be so intense that it produces significantly more anxiety than an oral dose so i think this is a very bad advice. Maybe it wasn't that bad due to being used to snort things or eventually the 2c-b was cut but the genereal consensus on this is not to sniff it.

And even though the bodyload can be pretty nasty I would suggest around 15- 20mgs of 2c-b via oral route since it is very forgiving regarding the potential mindfuckery. Have fun OP, I haven't tripped in a long time too and will break the pause soon :)
 
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