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Tripping around a cop

guitar127

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Does any one have any suggestions on what to do if your tripping and you have to talk to a cop This happened to me a few weeks ago.....

Heres the story i was tripping at some friends of mine apartment with a few other people and they were having a party , then at about two in the morning the cops knock on the door. one of my buddies who was tripping opened the door and the cops walked right in, the first thing that they saw was me playing super mario world on a super nintendo (which is prolly one of the funnest things to do on acid ) and the cop said that i needed to stop smoking weed so that i could buy an xbox , i told him that i would work on that , then they found about a half ounce from all the peole that they searched i luckily didnt have anything , they also found a plant growing in that same apartment !!! , and the whole time we were all cracking jokes with the cops , i even told one of the cops that he could have a beer out of the fridge if he wanted one ,but the crazy part is no one got in any trouble at all the cops just took everything and left i think we got busted by some of the only cops in the area that smoked weed ..........any way if you guys have any ideas on how to deal with that kind of situation id like to hear them
 
then at about two in the morning the cops knock on the door. one of my buddies who was tripping opened the door and the cops walked right in

There's nothing more you could have done at that point; your buddy screwed you all. You have no obligation to open the door for the cops unless they have a warrant from a judge granting them access to the property. If you open the door, you are waiving your 4th amendment protection against unlawful search and seizure; so essentially your buddy waived that protection for everyone in the dwelling, by opening the door.

Next time, warn everyone in advance of this fact. Before you start tripping, say "hey, if any cops come for some reason, just let me handle the situation."

Then if the cops do come to the door, don't open it! Just tell them, through the door, to fuck off and come back with a warrant. :D (They won't, unless you're a heroin trafficker or something)
 
I've only run into the cops once when tripping, it was 2:30am and my friend and i both tripping had run into a group of younger youth's wondering around the streets.. who were surprisingly friendly enough.. but a bit loose on alcohol.

A local business close by called the cops as were were 'loitering' nearby.. two cops showed up in a car and took all our names and address's down.. the funny thing was it a good cop bad cop scenario.. possibly created by my own interpretation of the situation, however i had no problem chatting to the 'good cop' and joked around a bit, trying to understand why standing in a public place was an offense.. the bad cop was very serious and didn't look impressed at all by my 'state', although i doubt either of them realized we were tripping.

I can't really offer any suggestions as my experience was vastly different to yours, but i find the presence of cops and that 'authority figure' to be overwhelming when tripping enough to snap you back into a sober state of mind that it's not much of a worry.
 
There's nothing more you could have done at that point; your buddy screwed you all. You have no obligation to open the door for the cops unless they have a warrant from a judge granting them access to the property. If you open the door, you are waiving your 4th amendment protection against unlawful search and seizure; so essentially your buddy waived that protection for everyone in the dwelling, by opening the door.

Not even open the door to have the simple exchange of "not unless you have a warrant."?

I always thought they needed consent or a warrant to enter your house. If you open the door, but don't give consent for them to enter, they can't come in.

When someone knocks on my door, I open it to see who it is, have an exchange, let them in, tell them I'm not interested, whatever.

I think you should be able to open the door. Opening a door isn't giving consent to a search. If you open a door and they just waltz right in by you without your permission isn't that unlawful entry?

They can't do that without a warrant as far as I know.
 
Opening the door may not give consent however it does grant an opportunity to the cops to enter. Think of it as answering a salesman with a maybe instead of no. By saying maybe this tells the salesman there is a chance you might say yes. The same thing applies to cops. If you open the door what is to stop them from illegally entering? It is your word against theirs in court and if you physically attempt to prevent them from entering you will be charged with assaulting an officer. There is also the chance of them claiming they smelled cannabis smoke. Best to play it safe and leave the door closed and locked.
 
Even an unlocked door cops will not hesitate to open and enter.
Keep shit closed and locked and you'll be fine.

I was at a party once where the cops showed up and we stayed in the house with stuff locked. They pulled some really dirty tricks to try to get us to come out. Dont believe them if they try this, just keep inside.
 
This was in USA?

If not, I suggest you dig out the actual laws in where ever you live. I know that in Finland, a senior officer (don't remember the exact rank/title needed) alone can make the decision to enter a house if either a) he suspects a crime is taking place that has the maxmimum penalty of at least 600€ fine or 6 months in jail or b) he has a reason to believe that there's an acute crime to take place that requires active stopping.

The second thing is that there's usually some reason why they appeared in the first place, such as causing noise. In Finland, anyway, it's best to open the door, immediatelly step outside and close the door after you, therefore allowing you to resolve the immediate matter that caused their appearance outside your apartement without giving a suspicion of a larger crime. If you're really wasted, this might be troublesome. Sunglasses and acting more drunk (in a responsible, non-threatening, non-violent manner) than you are is usually a valid way to go.

From what I gather the case is same in many European countries.

EDIT: Or actually, the law's slightly more complex: In fact, any police has the right to enter your apartment if there's a reason to suspect that you've committed a crime that warrants your arrest. This includes quite many drug-related crimes.
 
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I haven't run into cops but on a 2c-I bike ride I took a backpack with .4 grams of weed and a couple whippets to a park. Beautiful night in California with the stars all out and a big pond in front of me. I get the whippet ready, look at the sky and Wham! ranger comes outta nowhere. At first I was scared. Put into hancuffs and searched/ looked up. They break my gorgeous piece and step allphp over my weed, laugh and ridicule my drug use. Through this I think... What would god wante to do? (under the influence of psychedelics I think about god a lot :))So I keep a positive attitude, talk to them. Eventually they thank me for being chill and I smoke a cig with them and continue off on my journey! :)
 
Just like with getting pulled over, the same should apply in your house. You can always open the door, lock it, then close it - but make sure you have your keys! You're outside with them, and you can't get in trouble (unless you have drugs ON you of course,) and they can't go inside without your consent. I dunno, much better than talking to them through a shut door imo.
 
I've talked to the cop once while candyflipping and three times while just rolling. It was never a big deal. I know I probably acted a bit weird, I asked sort of sober and remained calm. I knew they were never after me so it was no big deal.
 
Probably weren't cops.. ur mates just got robbed! xP

Honestly though, talking to them as if they were just another person and joking around with them is the best idea imo.. If i'm on the street and police start to approach i'm the first to speak with a happy "hello!".. then just fuck about (last week they come up to us cos they smelt cannabis.. after a little denial i ran (jokingly) and didn't even get chased jus a little.. the police lady then said "i know how it is.. some people like a drink and some like a smoke!" and i raised my hand and said "and i like both! xP)

Anyway.. yeah you did the right thing..

The guy that let them in didn't!
 
The cops busted a trip party i was at. everyone had pot and either the cops failed to notice we were tripping or just wanted the headies for themselves because we were let go unscathed.
 
Oh man I was on some 2-ci and mdma and was riding back to my friends house after getting a half oz of mushrooms. Of course we get pulled over and the cop just yanks me out of the car, says im a drug dealer and searches me, and im rolling hard. He find my legally prescribed clonazepam and decides that good enough to search the whole car. Find all kinds of things in the car, we both get taken downtown. The only good thing was I was rolling so I was just laughing the whole time I was at the police station, until I came down and realized how fucked I was. SO I have no clue, I didn't pull it off
 
I've talked to cops rolling and I had no problem with it . Maybe cos my eyes are brown :P

but tripping I've tried . I can kinda act sober but wow its soo hard lol . I get paranoid as fuck
 
I started freaking out when i was at a music festie this past summer and there were cops on horses.. Man that was kind of scary, the horses looked fucking huge.
 
^Hahaha at a festival this past summer, we were chilling with the kids who were camping next to us, and a cop on horseback strolled by the campground-- one of the kids jumps up and runs over to the cops, and stands there physically SHAKING because of the massive amount of MDMA he'd taken and he was like "SIR CAN I PLEEEEEASE PET YOUR HORSE?" and the cop seemed pretty cool about it, but the kid was shaking so bad that he kinda poked the horse in the eye while trying to pet it and the horse got really pissed off and almost bucked. The cop just looked over at our group and said "hey one of you get your friend here a bottle of water!" and rode away.

Hahaha man, it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. =D
 
This site has some good videos outlining the best ways to protect your rights in this kind of situation:
http://flexyourrights.org/

Best thing to do is learn your rights well enough sober that you can do the right thing on autopilot when you are messed up.

Also, being a good neighbor really helps avoid these situations. I believe cops are trained to pick up subliminal rebellion, so I trained myself to think of nice things when I see a cop. :)
 
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