Tried Molly....very disappointed

[THEkingOFsex]

You guys are all off......QUALITY MAKES A DIFFERENCE TOO!!

Well nobody here really had the correct answer. I am an expert on beans (pills) and I have done molly about 5 times so I can clear this up for you guys- (and Im surprised no one got this right...doesnt take a genius to figure this one out)

But NOT ALL MDMA is the same! So mdma is NOT mdma in other words. It depends on the quality of it. For instance, I started doing mdma in the late 90's and the quality was MUCH better than it is now. Plain and simple.

1 pill would have you rolling harder than 3 pokeballs will (pokeballs are current quality mdma which is going around and it is LOW quality...and they are considered "the best" pills around right now by many people...so this proves the quality has gotten much worse) I actually have had many different kinds including pokes, so I know how they are. They do not compare to the pure mdma pills from the 90's. It's not about content...its about QUALITY. I did Molly several times, and most of the time it was high quality, very clean...but still not quite like a roll. This also is because some rolls have speed in them which make them much stronger and more enjoyable than molly in my opinion (newbies wont agree with me on this and thats normal.)

So, the reason you didnt enjoy the molly could of been most likely due to either one of these 2 reasons-

#1- It was low quality (probable since it's not the 90's anymore and there is no high quality mdma going around anymore)

#2- You like speedy pills and that is why the pure molly didnt do it for you. Molly is not speedy because its pure, so you will just want to sit around and listen to music. In my opinion Pokeballs are "Molly in a pill" I ate 3 the other day and it felt just like being on pure molly.

Enjoy your life

 

[THEkingOFsex]

PS- I actually had molly in a pill once. They said it wasnt possible to have a 100% pure pill...well it really is because the ONLY binders in the pill were Sugar and Water. Your body has both and its in every single food you eat, so these WERE PURE molly pills. You eat a capsule with molly and call that pure? The capsule is made of Gelatin. lol

And I have to say those pure molly pills were some of the STRONGEST pills Ive ever done because I only did one (smoked NO weed with it ) If I do one pokeball and smoke no weed, I wont even roll. I rolled absolute balls with visuals and everything from one pure molly pill. Again you cannot count sugar and water as a binder as it's not a drug or anything that you dont consume already.

Hope Ive enlightened some of you...lol

 

[Vader]

^Congratulations on having thoroughly disproved your claim to be an expert. All MDMA is MDMA is MDMA. By "low quality", you mean impure- i.e., containing substances other than MDMA. Pills were stronger in the 90s because they had more MDMA in them, not because the MDMA itself was more potent.

They said it wasnt possible to have a 100% pure pill...well it really is because the ONLY binders in the pill were Sugar and Water. Your body has both and its in every single food you eat, so these WERE PURE molly pills.

So if someone sold you a mix of 90% sucrose and 10% MDMA you'd be happy? I mean, it would be totally pure according to your definition.

You eat a capsule with molly and call that pure?

Well, they're referring to the MDMA inside the capsule, but if you want to get pedantic, no, of course it's not pure.

You don't seem to understand what "binder" means. A binder is a substance that is added to a drug so that it can be compressed into a tablet successfully. It is generally not psychoactive in its own right, and it need not be something that is not usually consumed as food. Amphetamine is not added to pills as a binder, to give the mixture desirable physical properties, but as a drug, to change the subjective effects of the mixture when ingested.

Hope Ive enlightened some of you...lol

'fraid not.

brownish means speed doesnt it...

No, you can have brown MD with no amp content and MD cut with amp in any colour of the rainbow.

if it goes to purple black it could be MDEA, MDA, MDE

MDE=MDEA.

 

[pothole]

Pretty much all of that post by theking is pure bollocks. The 90s pills just had more mdma in them, they did sometimes have a bit of speed in them so well done for getting that fact correct.

 

[Bearlove]

100mg is a very small dose, I would never expect to personally roll off so little. Sounds like you had good stuff and were off to a good start. Take more next time. I use 180mg when I have good stuff, lesser quality I take 200mg, with a 2/3 dose booster two hours in. (I'm like 250 lbs though, you'll probably be safe at 150)

I dont agree with this - 100mgs is far from a 'very small dose' - the sweet spot for the majority of users is between 100 -150mgs anything over that is either down to tolerance or body size.

I personally would never tell a new user to use more than 120mgs as a starter dose.

 

[Bearlove]

Well nobody here really had the correct answer. I am an expert on beans (pills) and I have done molly about 5 times so I can clear this up for you guys- Enjoy your life

And you Sir are talking out of your ass!

Also taking 'Molly' Five times does not make you an 'expert' on the subject.

 

[nolys]

I agree with bearlove on this, 100mg is plenty for a first timer unless the mollly is cut with anything.

Also have you been taking other drugs like mephedrone or methylone which could give you a possible cross tolerance?l

 

[123sleep]

I acquired some molly that was tested and shown to have MDMA...went almost straight black....so I was really excited to try it out. Well I did so this past weekend, and I was very underwhelmed. I took about 100mg initially and then 75mg about an hour later. I got the positive feelings and happiness, but the "loved-up" feelings were not very pronounced and I didn't get the tingling touch sensations I got the other time I tried MDMA.

A little background: I've only done MDMA one other time, and it blew me away. I took pills that time; one initially and then another a couple hours later, but it was a TOTALLY different experience. With these pills, the high kept building and building over a period of 3-4 hours until it plateaued at the peak for a long ass time, and this roll lasted 6-7 hours. It blew me away; I got tingles in the back of my head, my touching sensations were through the roof, and I felt connected to everyone and had overflowing love. I wanted to talk to everyone...and I did.

With the molly, the roll started out strongest at the beginning and tapered down to a subtle feeling after a couple hours. Even at the strongest though, I was like "is this it?" I didn't care about talking to people so much and the touching sensations were very minimal if anything.

Any ideas on what could have happened? I hadn't rolled since June of last year...I had done some mephedrone a little over a month ago though but I thought I rested enough to have a kickass roll...and was extremely disappointed.

The first time I tried molly we each did 150 mg's and it was incredible! I've rolled a few times on good pills and the main difference is there usually cut with something speedy and tweeky giving you that boost and urge to dance more so than 'pure' MDMA (molly). For a big music fest I'd recommend going with some decent rolls, but if you're just chilling with some friends or even just a house party then you can't go wrong with quality molly. Just my 2cents from experience. Also the molly you had was probably shit purity. That amount for a zero tolerence user should have you rolling for sure.

 

[DavisK4high247]

Alexander Shuglin after synthesizing some MDMA(among his hundred of other drugs) took first a dose of 100 mg of pure MDMA, then a second dose later,I don't know how much later or the next day,or when, however He said that 120mg of MDMA (pure) was the optimal dose, he experimented with 150 mg , 175 mg and 200 mg and 200+ mg of MDMA and said that in doses higher than 120 mg , you were only getting the negative side effects that are possible, and not anymore of the "magic of MDMA".

So if the man who basicly reintroduced MDMA to the world again from old German original formulas of the early 20's and 30's and even the 1940's , If he said that 120 mg pure was the perfect dose, I think he knows better than anyone else, although some small dose increases for weight are of course logical, he said it best that going over 150 mg pure MDMA made it just have side effects more pronouced and no added "majic of the drug that is MDMA", of course he was using pure MDMA, he produced himself so these pills that are added to with amphetamines of some type are not giving a true MDMA experience IMO.

I have done pure MDMA numerous times in the past, as well as pressed pills from the early 90's through the early 2000's. until the mid 2000's when I was given for free several "rolls" that were very low dose MDMA mixed with amphetamines or worse no MDMA and just amphetamine and PCP or some other cheaply made shitty excuse for "X" ..lol..

 

[Vader]

^Shulgin's recommended dosages are often on the low side for a lot of people. I don't have my copy of PiHKAL with me, but taking 100mg of a substance for an inital dose sounds deeply un-Shulginish, are you sure about that?

 

[Ph0r.W3-R-m4ny]

^ true true For my fat ass 100 isn't all that much.. but I have been rolling occasionally for years now, might just have personally higher standards too.