Tramadol is a very interesting drug. I have found medical professionals (nurses, doctors etc.) to be rather ignorant to the recreational potential it possesses, and recreational drug users fail to give it enough credit as a recreational drug. While I know that metabolization of tramadol into o-desmethyltramadol (more responsible for opioid action) varies in degree from person to person, tramadol has been, for me, a wonderful drug.
My first experience with tramadol is a memorable one. I had a handful of experiences with true opiates before my experience with tramadol, but found tramadol to be perhaps even more pleasurable than oxycodone or codeine the first time, and other times, too. Initially, tramadol induced a very strong euphoria not unlike the euphoria of a true opiate, but distinctly different. It caused complete euphoria, anxiolysis, and calm, allowing me to nod on it if I wanted, or be out and about on it if I wanted. It was always stimulating, in that it was less "apathetic" for lack of a better term than other opioids, but quite sedating, too. Also, in comparison to other true opiates there has always been less incidence of side-effects such as hot flashes or sweating. Keeping my tramadol use non-daily for some time, any given experience was just as good as the first. What tramadol also possesses that opiates like hydrocodone, oxycodone, and codeine do not, is a veritably long duration of action in which the euphoria does not seem to wear off so quickly. Even six hours into an experience, the euphoria can be felt and is still very satisfying (that is before daily use began).
I hypothesize that tramadol's unique, stimulating, and lasting euphoria is due to the SNRI properties as well as the opioid properties of tramadol, but more the active metabolite. The SNRI properties cannot be disregarded, and I would bet are much more pronounced than even those of an SNRI anti-depressant. My arguement to support this would be the immediate stimulating action tramadol causes, and the relatively high seizure risk it carries. Because of the SNRI effects and the opioid effects, the euphoria is in itself synergistic, and the effects of the active metabolite outlast those of tramadol itself leading to a slow comedown in effect after a given duration of action.
When I began using tramadol daily for the first time, the strong euphoria faded very quickly over a few days, but never did the warm contentment leave nor the stimulation, which was not very noticeable, but allowed me to get through my days with less fatigue. My anxiety was considerably lessened, and my transient depressive symptoms were not present. Sleeping was an easy thing to do, which it normally is, but sleeping was smoother and less "rough". At night, I would get the classic tramadol feelings here and there, just very contented and more numb to external stressors. The second time I used tramadol daily was almost identical, both lasting 4 - 6 weeks, taking between 200 and 300 mg daily on average, and my single dose at a time always being 100 mg from the first time till today. The withdrawals of the first bout of daily tramadol use were quite dysphoric, and ended by starting the tramadol again, and employing a slow taper with the assitance of Librium in addition to the other benzos I take. The taper was then painless, perhaps over a week? The second time the withdrawals were worse with too quick a taper, and then infrequent and varied use at nighttime for about a week till I stopped for a few weeks.
The key to my success in the use of tramadol is on account of a few things. I do not expect, now, what I first felt, and am pleased with the overall generally subtle, mood-lifting and comforting effects it provides. I also do not take more than 100 mg at a time, which I believe is very important, for on the few times I took more than 100 mg every six or so hours, I did not experience any more euphoria than I would at my normal dose, and side-effects began to ensue such as hot flash and headahce and discomfort.
My entire experiences with tramadol have been while I have been on a benzodiazepine, and so the seizure-risk was lowered than had I not been taking a benzo. I also imagine the benzos played a part in the effect of the tramadol as I perceived it, although I have a fairly hefty benzo tolerance. All in all, tramadol is a wonderful drug for what it is, and has much recreational potential for good metabolizers, however, it should be used responsibly and in doses not too high as to create a risk for seizures. It must aslo be avoided if one is taking another serotonergic drug, as the combination is often unpleasant, and potentially quite dangerous.
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My first experience with tramadol is a memorable one. I had a handful of experiences with true opiates before my experience with tramadol, but found tramadol to be perhaps even more pleasurable than oxycodone or codeine the first time, and other times, too. Initially, tramadol induced a very strong euphoria not unlike the euphoria of a true opiate, but distinctly different. It caused complete euphoria, anxiolysis, and calm, allowing me to nod on it if I wanted, or be out and about on it if I wanted. It was always stimulating, in that it was less "apathetic" for lack of a better term than other opioids, but quite sedating, too. Also, in comparison to other true opiates there has always been less incidence of side-effects such as hot flashes or sweating. Keeping my tramadol use non-daily for some time, any given experience was just as good as the first. What tramadol also possesses that opiates like hydrocodone, oxycodone, and codeine do not, is a veritably long duration of action in which the euphoria does not seem to wear off so quickly. Even six hours into an experience, the euphoria can be felt and is still very satisfying (that is before daily use began).
I hypothesize that tramadol's unique, stimulating, and lasting euphoria is due to the SNRI properties as well as the opioid properties of tramadol, but more the active metabolite. The SNRI properties cannot be disregarded, and I would bet are much more pronounced than even those of an SNRI anti-depressant. My arguement to support this would be the immediate stimulating action tramadol causes, and the relatively high seizure risk it carries. Because of the SNRI effects and the opioid effects, the euphoria is in itself synergistic, and the effects of the active metabolite outlast those of tramadol itself leading to a slow comedown in effect after a given duration of action.
When I began using tramadol daily for the first time, the strong euphoria faded very quickly over a few days, but never did the warm contentment leave nor the stimulation, which was not very noticeable, but allowed me to get through my days with less fatigue. My anxiety was considerably lessened, and my transient depressive symptoms were not present. Sleeping was an easy thing to do, which it normally is, but sleeping was smoother and less "rough". At night, I would get the classic tramadol feelings here and there, just very contented and more numb to external stressors. The second time I used tramadol daily was almost identical, both lasting 4 - 6 weeks, taking between 200 and 300 mg daily on average, and my single dose at a time always being 100 mg from the first time till today. The withdrawals of the first bout of daily tramadol use were quite dysphoric, and ended by starting the tramadol again, and employing a slow taper with the assitance of Librium in addition to the other benzos I take. The taper was then painless, perhaps over a week? The second time the withdrawals were worse with too quick a taper, and then infrequent and varied use at nighttime for about a week till I stopped for a few weeks.
The key to my success in the use of tramadol is on account of a few things. I do not expect, now, what I first felt, and am pleased with the overall generally subtle, mood-lifting and comforting effects it provides. I also do not take more than 100 mg at a time, which I believe is very important, for on the few times I took more than 100 mg every six or so hours, I did not experience any more euphoria than I would at my normal dose, and side-effects began to ensue such as hot flash and headahce and discomfort.
My entire experiences with tramadol have been while I have been on a benzodiazepine, and so the seizure-risk was lowered than had I not been taking a benzo. I also imagine the benzos played a part in the effect of the tramadol as I perceived it, although I have a fairly hefty benzo tolerance. All in all, tramadol is a wonderful drug for what it is, and has much recreational potential for good metabolizers, however, it should be used responsibly and in doses not too high as to create a risk for seizures. It must aslo be avoided if one is taking another serotonergic drug, as the combination is often unpleasant, and potentially quite dangerous.
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. there were two particular experiences that I'd rate within my top 5 drug experiences ever (having experienced pretty much every serious drug and various combos thereof!). extremely euphoric, dissociation-like nod, 'ohmygoditfeelssogood'...really glowing, even with a spiritual touch.
. I was taking shite loads of it every day, prescribed by my gp. Took weeks to withdraw, for nowt.