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tramadol/Ultram

Tramadol is such an odd opioid, I wouldn't even compare a dose to hydrocodone.

Tramadol acts as an anti-depressant, has stimulatory qualities, and for the classic "opiate" feelings to start to kick in you must wait for your liver to for the metabolite o-desmethyltramadol (a significantly more potent u opioid agonist than tramadol itself).

Seizure-causing dosages take place commonly around 400mg, but YMMV. You might know this OP, but in case you didn't hope I gave you some useful information on the drug.
 
Escapedysphoria said:
Tramadol is such an odd opioid, I wouldn't even compare a dose to hydrocodone.

Tramadol acts as an anti-depressant, has stimulatory qualities, and for the classic "opiate" feelings to start to kick in you must wait for your liver to for the metabolite o-desmethyltramadol (a significantly more potent u opioid agonist than tramadol itself).

Seizure-causing dosages take place commonly around 400mg, but YMMV. You might know this OP, but in case you didn't hope I gave you some useful information on the drug.
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Tramadol's effects are well known to vary person to person. To some people, it's opiate effects are much more pronounced, other people get fuck all from tramadol pain killing wise because it acts more of a SRA/SNRI.
 
Almost any individual looking for recreational effects from tramadol should start out at about 100 mg, and no higher, even if they have tolerance to other opioids because of tramadol's unique nature. Do not use it if you have any seizure disorder, or if you are taking any drugs which act on serotonin or norepinephrine such as most anti-depressants or stimulants for risk of serotonin syndrome or increased seizure risk. With tramadol start low, and go slow, really. Some people find it useless, others love it, it depends, but make sure you can tolerate it well as some people are very sensitive to its SNRI effects. It is not like a typical opioid or really any other opioid, so don't expect classic effects. Certainly do not take more than 400 mg in a single day, and I would really keep any single dose to no more than 100 mg or 150 mg tops. Even if pleasant in lower doses, higher doses bring unpleasant side-effects to many and risks.
 
^ Alex hit the nail on the head.

I have taken 400 mg of tramadol on several occasions, and everytime I do my face flushes and burns, almost like a sunburn, just all over my face. Not pleasant.
 
I personally haven't felt a single thing from tramadol, even with a 300mg dose. It helped with WD symptoms related to opiate use slightly but beyond that I felt absolutely nothing, when I mix that dose with about 2-3 4mg Tizanidine however, I fly like a kite.
 
The best way to dose tramadol is in increments throughout the day, as this gives your liver the best chance of converting lots of it to o-desmethyltramadol, which is the opioid metabolite. Never exceed 400mg/24hrs - there is a very real risk of seizures and people have seized off less. Just eat them; no point insufflating, very low bioavailability. Don't mix with other drugs which could lower the seizure threshold, and don't mix with serotonergic drugs (antidepressants, MDMA, DXM, many psychedelics and more) as you can cause serotonin syndrome due to tramadol's SNRI properties.

As people said, everyone varies in their response but most find tramadol isn't really hugely recreational.
 
OK, I dont think any amount would equal a hydro buzz but if your new to tramadol id take 2 then 2 more in 30 minutes, wait another hour and see where your at. They do take about 2 hours to kick in.
 
No amount of Tramadol every equaled out to a hydro buzz...........I wish I could get high like others on Trams & get good pain relief.
 
I use to love tramadol because Dr's hand it out like candy...I took 100mg's to start and it gave an okay buzz...but nothing like Hyrdro...it was more speedy and after I use tram more than once close together the "buzz" actually had me nervous and gittery...but way back when I first started tram I liked it alot,until I had a siezure from a 200mg' dose but I was taking 200mg's every 4 hours then that night my roomate called the EMS because I fell off my bed and was siezing...after than I never felt the same about tram...but everyone is different....100mg's to 200ms' to start with an don't take the doses very close together!
 
PeacePipeChief said:
why has no one mentioned the other half of the thread ? the Ultram ? is it more useless than tramadol or something , like the paracetamol in codeine ?
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Ultram is just the brand name for tramadol...like Lortab is the brand name of Hydrocodone. To me there was no differance at all....both made me feel about the same...I always felt like tram was better than nothing if the Dr handed it out...I could never find it on the streets...so most ppl think it is worthless I guess.
 
If you have the correct enzymes (CYP2D6 I think?) Tram is actually incredible - 50mg every 45 minutes was a decent high. Though some get nothing - but please pay close attention to the seizure risks, very real danger.

Personally I found 400mg tramadol and 250mg roughly equipotent to 20-25mgs of Oxycodone. Though many people get nothing so I'm lucky I guess? Or unlucky given the WDs are just... Indescribable.
 
JohnnyOneTwo said:
! just got a script of 50mg tramadol/Ultram how many could i take to equal a hydrocodone buzz.
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It wouldn't matter how many you took...it's not hydro...and it'll never feel like it is.
however, if you took too many looking for the hydro buzz you're not going to get..
I've heard seizures are pretty unattractive..not worth it..if I were asked.
Effie's right..if you're gonna get anything out of tram..then you need to dose 50mg.....then redose 1.5 hours later maybe 50-100 mg. ..and again 90 min. later 50-100mg...
to make the most of what you've got...really, for your liver to make the most of what you've got

~token
 
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