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Tramadol for long term

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kobrah

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I like tramadol it has this amazing mood lift..I dont want to use it for recreational purposes i take 100mg 2 no more than 3 times a week is this bad to consider for long term or short term?
 
Why are you taking it in the first place if not for recreational purposes? If you're taking it purely for it's mood lift effect than I'm afraid that is absolutely considered recreational. Although Tramadol is one of the weaker opiods, it is still addictive and taking it even 3 times a week is playing with fire. Most people (me included) cannot maintain their use sparingly like that. 3 times a week turns into everyday real fucking quick, especially if you're not using it as prescribed by a doctor. Be careful.

I've also just read that the withdraw symptoms of Tramadol are usually worse and longer lasting (acute withdraw symptoms can last up to 7 days) than that of other opiates/opiods.
 
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I like to use it as a treat like on the weekends with some beer or purly by itself ive never had an addictive personality, but ill watch out for sure!
 
Be careful when mixing it with alcohol as well, especially if you're getting pretty buzzed off the Tramadol by itself. Mixing CNS depressants is never a good thing. I have to ask, purely in the spirit of harm reduction, but why not try Codeine instead? Depending on where you live, you can get it over the counter in 8mg pills with a unit dose of APAP or ASA and use a cold water extraction method the isolate the Codeine (and caffeine). I say this only because the withdraw from a Tramadol addiction can be quite severe and include certain symptoms of SSRI withdraw as well which include, but are not limited to seizures.
 
Yeah im addicted and also started out thinking I could just take a few now and again.. The buzz, if you get one,wears off really quickly and youre left being dependent which sucks..
I had a couple of days of pure misery the other week when there was some confusion with my script and I couldnt get any..
The withdrawal is truely vile.. be very careful.. If you are going to do it try to just limit it to the weekends.. If you want to get opiated shadys suggestion is a good one.. Maybe alternate the weekends between codeine and tram.

Peace n love and think wisely.
 
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1. Codeine will not have the extreme mood lift of tramadol. Tramadol has been given off label as a antidepressant. Although, it can be habit forming.

2. The caffeine will overwhelm most, if not all the qualities of the codeine.

3. Tramdol has SNRI properties, not SSRI.

4. Tramadol and SNRI type medications do not cause seizures upon withdrawal. Only while using them. For tramadol, this is solved by staying at or under 400 mg.

5. Taking an ass load of caffeine is dangerous in it's own right.

Alternating will not help you anymore than taking tramadol by itself. They both effect the opiate receptors... Just more tolerance will result.

This may even cause you to have to take more tramadol for the same effect...
 
1. My addiction started with Codeine. I wouldn't have continued if it didn't feel damn good. But to each their own I suppose

2. Not true if you have little to no opiate tolerance. When I started using Codeine I barely even felt the caffeine, or at least felt the Codeine a lot more. Sleeplessness can definitely occur afterward though...

3. - 4. I stand corrected as I have been unable to find a secondary source that confirms me. Sorry for the misinformation.

5. Maybe so. Not good for the heart, raise of blood pressure etc. Didn't seem to harm me much but I'm no doctor.

I agree that alternating them would be pointless, and completely noneffective though.
 
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kobrah said:
I like tramadol it has this amazing mood lift..I dont want to use it for recreational purposes i take 100mg 2 no more than 3 times a week is this bad to consider for long term or short term?
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100mg 2-3 times a week isn't bad for you as long as its not 2-3 days in a row, then you might have mild to moderate withdrawal symptoms. That dose (100mg a day) is commonly recommended by doctors. The danger is in developing physical and psychological addiction so read up on that and stop yourself before you get to far if necessary. Tramadol does have a nasty withdrawal (some say worse than heroin) if you take way too much every day. There is loads of info right here on BL if you use the search feature. I agree with others that tramadol provides a mood lift that codeine and even some heavier opiates can't provide, and the effects are long-lasting. The bad thing about it is how quickly you can develop a high tolerance, especially if you start using it multiple times a day. Keep at your current usage level and you're good.
 
The point I was making about alternating was to minimise Tramadol usage to every other week.. Its not just the opiate that I was thinking about.. the snri can dig its teeth into you really quickly as well.

Knowing what a shite drug Tramadol is in the long term I just advise caution with it.
Its ok for pain.. it gives an initial buzz.. long term its not a great pain killer. Theres no euphoria.. It causes dependency.. It mixes horribly with other drugs. It can cause siezures and
tics in higher doses. If you have an addictive, gannet like nature you will keep
pushing the 400 mg boundary .. like me.

Im cutting down but its damned hard work.
 
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I know someone that takes a 50mg of Tramadol & 5mg of Vicodin combined as an anti-depressant & mood lifter, man it does wonders for her & shes been using the same dosage for over 2 years 3 times a week.

Shes prescribed both of these for her back by the way.
 
Yeah im sure for anyone with a modicum of self control its an ok drug.. I ignored the warning on the drug info sheet which says avoid prescribing to people with addictive personalities.. I think now its a warning that should be heeded.
I got so tied up with it at one point I started freaking out about what would happen if I couldnt get it!! I had images of going out to score smack and ending up dead with a needle in my arm. I know from experience how opiates can get an arm lock on people.
 
Tramadol will take you down a dirty path if you take it too long. The sickness is comparable to heroin withdrawal imo... good luck.
 
I got ton's of tramadol.

I hate it. I got it for slipped disc(Sciatica)

It makes me naseous, it keep me awake, it stops me sleeping. It kills my appetite. Makes me shit myself.
Did not expect this from an opiate.

50/50 with people I have talked to love it, because it helped sleep&pain.
the others found exactly the same as me.

What a weird drug.
Not for me thanks :\
 
The problem is, what's going to stop you using it more and more frequently? If it's giving you effects you enjoy and appreciate, especially removing bad feelings, it's going to be hard not to slip into addiction I think.. plus as it's going to be the opioid effects not the SNRI effects giving you instant mood lift, tolerance will build and you will need to increase your dose more and more. If it starts getting too high you are at risk of seizures - as Jay said the accepted safe"level is 400mg/24 hours, but people have seized at lower doses. It depends on your individual seizure threshold and what other meds you take (see meds that lower your seizure threshold -stay away from these while on tramadol..) Stay away from anything serotinergic too (MDMA, DXM, a lot of psychedelics) or you risk serotonin syndrome.

As tramadol has both opioid and SNRI properties, withdrawal can be particularly bad as you may have SNRI discontinuation syndrome on top of opioid withdrawal.

I appreciate why you want to use tramadol like this and in theory a few times a week is okay, but it is also an opioid and it's a slippery slope. Despite having SNRI proerties, instand mood lift is going to be due to the opioid effects and it's just like using any other opioid for antidepression - a really bad idea, with the added dangers of seizures and worse withdrawals..
 
constant inhibition of 5ht-2c results in a long-term diminished seizure-threshold

i.e. the longer you take tramadol, the chances of having an epileptic attack increase
 
Personally, I would go for the extended release version at low doses. The opiate effect would wear off into SNRI effects. It is still technically a antidepressant.

If you take it once a day and get a lifetime supply for pain, why not try it out?
 
Surely you'd be better off just using a SNRI antidepressant? If you're taking it for pain and get added benefit of antidepressant action, then fair enough, but taking it as an antidepressant would worry me as the opioid insta-mood-lift could very easily tempt people to up their doses and fall into abusing their meds/tolerance/dependence/seizures etc?
 
I for one, would like to say that tramadol is a great anti-depressant. It's just that it is more fiendish than any other SNRI due to added opioid effects. I've been hooked for about 2 weeks again...fell right back in after a 3-year habit that involved doctor shopping for it and all that shit.

I got off of it for 18 months, then I got injured, and here I am...back on high-dose tramadol. They would have given me hydrocodone or oxycodone, but I wanted the trams. I love it. It's one of my 3 favorite opiates/opioids. I'm one of the rare ones. I've probably taken 20 of them today (1 gram); thank goodness I'm on gabapentin to ward off any seizure activity.

What I'm getting at is that...this stuff is highly addictive. It should definitely be Schedule III. But I'm happy it's not. I have surgery coming up and I'm in bad shape, so I'm thankful for it, as I can't function without it. I can also take it as prescribed and not abuse it, but my point is that I have to have it.

BTW I'm prescribed 100mg 3X per day. That will get anyone dependent in no time, and they may not even realize it...
 
I've been on it for 9 months now...100mg 4x daily. Until just the other night, I could find NO recreational value to the drug. I was hurting pretty badly the other night and I had only taken 2 doses so I took 200mg. An hour later, I was still hurting pretty badly, so I took another 100mg. Maybe an hour after this, still in pain, I felt effects similar to taking an extremely low dose of hydrocodone. If you're going to do an opioid recreationally, you might as well just go for vicodin (hydrocodone), morphine, or oxycodone (perhaps codeine as suggested above since you can actually feel an altered perception from 100mg, but I've found codeine has done nothing for me the few times I've tried it). Someone told me this when I was abusing DXM (in the form of robotussin) A LOT-like 4-5 times per week, and by abusing, I mean drinking an 8 oz bottle at a time-DON'T DO THIS!!!-anyway, when I was doing a shit ton of DXM all the time, someone told me, "If you're going to get addicted to a drug, at least get addicted to a real one. I'm not saying that you should go out and become a meth head or anything like that, but do you really want to be known as the guy that got addicted to cough syrup?" While I did continue to use DXM a little while after all that, that did stick with me, and I wasn't on the cough syrup for much longer.

Don't get addicted to tramadol; the cons outweigh the pros. When I first started taking tramadol, I did feel minor psychoactive effects (I wouldn't say it was anything more than slight drowsiness.), but those were gone after the first 4 or 5 days. It really isn't worth it at all IMO, lol. I would just stop using this shit if I were you. I prolly sound like the pot calling the kettle black, but I use it medicinally. I've got back problems one wouldn't expect until they were 50 years of age or older and I'm 19. And really, for proper pain management, I need at the very least 20mg hydrocodone 3-4x daily or something else. Even with all the gabapentin, flexeril, and tramadol I take (180 pills, 90 pills, and 240 pills per month respectively), I still sit at a pain rating of 5 ON AVERAGE, and that's not even taking into consideration the times like this where I'm sitting at a 6.5; I literallly feel as though there is a spear sticking directly into the right side of my back at the waistline every time I move-even if it's something as simple as adjusting the way I'm seated in the recliner right now. But I've gotten off topic and this is your thread, so I'll shut my bitching the fuck up (lmao), and end with saying:

DON'T GET ADDICTED TO TRAMADOL! IT'S NOT WORTH IT IN THE LEAST BIT

You may not be hurting yourself at the current moment, but why risk it with a drug like this? If you want to be a weekend warrior, do it with something that's less addictive and has a greater psychoactive side effect profile. Tramadol is bad for you physically just like any other opioid. It might not be as potent, but remember that you're taking 100mg of this chemical for it's effects instead of 16mg of hydrocodone to get the same (ANALGESIC) effects (and 16mg of hydrocodone feels a lot better than 100mg of tramadol to me).

But I've droned on too long and I hope I didn't go so long to where no one reads this, but I'll put my basic message in bold below this so maybe it will catch attention lol.

DON'T GET ADDICTED TO TRAMADOL!!!!!!!
 
A study I came across some time ago said no noticeable withdrawal symptoms manifest after ending a 50-100 mg habit in most patients. I can attest to that as I take 50 mg twice a day, have for four months, and can go off it a week without symptoms. 200-300 mg daily is very different, and WD symptoms can be expected. I no longer dose that high as I do tramadol for a mood lift and this effect doesn't increase dramatically with dosage. At 100 mg daily, you'll often wish you could do 200 mg, or maybe a bit more. A legit monthly script for 100 mg per day comes in handy for keeping that urge in check ;)
 
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