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Opioids Tramadol and Smoking Cigs

tricomb said:
Good morning bro, when do you plan on quitting?
You still off tramadol?
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Quitting smoking? Honestly I have no idea. When I have to, either for work or relationship reasons, but frankly it's not on my radar at the moment. Probably won't happen till I'm long off bupe. Yea, don't exactly get my tramadol from a (human) doctor, so it's a once a month/blue moon sorta thing. Haven't had any since last week, and even after using 300-800mg/day I feel absolutely no w/d effects. I credit that to suboxone and, well, never having had problems with tram in the past.

Back in the day, I used to smoked Turkish Royals. but then they stopped selling them in two-for-one packs and I stopped...
 
Lol yeah, you mean you're not going to quit til you get the diagnosis, and even then you'll be like who cares now fuck it.

I remember the two for one packs!
 
I didn't think Tramadol was considered an Opiod..? It isn't a narcotic or controlled substance and doesn't have any derivatives from Opium.
 
Tramadol is a weak opioid agonist..but converts to O-desmethyltramadol- a more potent opioid agonist.
It's a weak synthetic..which also has SSRI effects.
Many ppl get an opiate-like feeling from it..also it can help
with w/d..and has antidepressant effects...

Also, it doesn't do a damn thing for some ppl.

So, you're right..it's not a narcotic, isn't a derivitave from opium..

<3token
 
Tramal works well on me and ive had huge opiate tolerances over the years...I was scripted 800mg a day during the early phases in Australia!...Unbelievable...They also told me it wasnt addictive ( i was prescribed because i had prior addictions to painkillers)....Mum and i still laugh now at how its not addictive!!..( she is addicted to it also, but as a responsible pain patient, she only takes what she needs to but if for some reason she suddenly stopped, shes fucked! SO she is also addicted).
 
As long as there isn't actually 400mg+ in your system at once, as in 800mg over the entire day, you very well won't seize (as in I take that much every once in a while). Everyone's different kind of thing.

HOWEVER, it does seem very irresponsible of your doctor to prescribe SUCH a wopping dose...
 
800MG all at once seems like an odd dose for a doctor to prescribe! Damn it I wish I could get my Tramadol prescription back. My tailbone still does hurt when I lay down, at times. Oh, how difficult it is sometimes to get just about ANYTHING prescibed as a Suboxone patient :(
 
Hey. Yeah its my tailbone thats stuffed too!!!I cant lie or sit anymore!!IM stuffed...But anyway, i was on 200mg SR at 6am 12pm 6pm 12am (or when i woke, and i did)...My Doc was a leading Pain Management Specialist and i waited many months to see him...I also had a box of 50mg IR and was allowed to refill my script every 5 days for them..
I never once had a fit...I stayed on that dose for 4 months.

I would have had 400mg + at many times i reckon...ANd it was the very early days of tramal...They were swearing to me its not physically addictive!!!
 
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Ive been perscribed for 8 years due to Ankylosing spondylitis, and quickly began dosing 10-15 50mg pills a day. I recently quit taking them full time due to how much I used to smoke when I was on them. It was like, "Hey, am I doing something RIGHT NOW? No? Better smoke a cig." I would wake up and buy a pack, buy a pack on my lunch, and buy a pack on my way home from work. It was horrendous. All that said, I was never able to find a formula or routine that kept me from smoking as much, even mixed with other drugs. Consider yourself lucky!
 
Miss Kirsty said:
I would have had 400mg + at many times i reckon...ANd it was the very early days of tramal...They were swearing to me its not physically addictive!!!
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The craziest thing about tram (for me) is that I would take outrageous amounts of it, and when I had a script, I couldnt stop taking it. As soon as the script ran out, I was absolutely fine the next day. From 15 pills to 0 in 24 hours. But when I got em.... its game over.
 
psilopsycho said:
Ive been perscribed for 8 years due to Ankylosing spondylitis, and quickly began dosing 10-15 50mg pills a day. I recently quit taking them full time due to how much I used to smoke when I was on them. It was like, "Hey, am I doing something RIGHT NOW? No? Better smoke a cig." I would wake up and buy a pack, buy a pack on my lunch, and buy a pack on my way home from work. It was horrendous. All that said, I was never able to find a formula or routine that kept me from smoking as much, even mixed with other drugs. Consider yourself lucky!
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So, you're saying you smoke about THREE packs a day? What cigarettes do you smoke?
 
^That is ridiculous, but of course you already know that... I can't even imagine I used to smoke near two packs a day when I was a coke fiend for a month just before I turned 18 :\

Yea, I mean, many people including myself have taken way over 400mg in a day or even in one sitting, but given the chance and risk of siezure, even if it's low, I don't think it's a good idea to romanticize (not saying we are, just saying) taking such high and frankly risky dosages. You know, in the interests of harm reduction and all ;)

I do find it odd, certainly, how my recent go with tramadol curbed my cravings for cigs so dramatically. I mean, like most that drug used to make me fiend for smokes. But recently it's had exactly the opposite effect. Then again, I had been making a conscious effort to cut bad, so maybe that had something to do with it. Most of the time on the tram/bupe, I would just think to myself, "Man, you already feel SO good, you don't really need a smoke to make this any better. You feel as good as it gets and a smoke won't change that."

Then again, I also had been taking a lot of potent NMDA antagonists and racetams, so those might have also something to do with making the SNRI/potential anti-smoking-craving quality of the tram more prominent. Who knows...
 
^ Word up, baby! I only smoked TWO cigarettes today! I have no idea why. I just didn't crave them! I usually smoke damn near a pack. Haha, I think its soo funny looking when I see people biking and smoking..just kind of contradicts the "good" you're doing for your body. I went for a bike ride around my 'hood today and smoked a cig and it was so relaxing. I think I will do it again, tomorrow <3
 
I'm taking 150 mg of Tramadol every 4-6 hours but it causes me to smoke way more than usual. I have always smoked a couple of cigarettes at a time when I would go out to smoke but it seems like I can't get enough cigarettes once the Tramadol kicks in. I have no intentions of stopping smoking, I look at it this way, it's something that I enjoy a lot and all of us will die from something so I choose to smoke regardless of what effects it may or may not have on my life. I just need to know what causes Tramadol to make me feeling like no amount of cigarettes is enough, does anyone have an answer?
 
This is a pretty old thread, but I thought I might try to offer my theory behind it since someone else asked the same question. Tramadol, among it's analgesic and SNRI effects is also a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor antagonist (in lay terms, it works against the receptors that cigarettes use).

I hope this answer satisfies your question, and welcome to BL. :)
 
necro post!

for many opioids (and I'm including tramadol in that list) increase one's tendencies to smoke or chain smoke. pretty widely recognized I would think. anyways, couldn't say what it is about tram that's making you smoke more, but I can actually understand - it's got, for me at least, a slightly speedy aspect that I could see making someone smoke more (although I personally smoke way more when I'm fucked up on a traditional full agonist such as morphine/heroin/etc).

start a new thread for yourself about this, maybe in blogs or something? or tds? anyways good luck g.b

if you just want someone to chat with, shoot me or someone else a pm rather than bring dead old threads back to life. don't mean to be a dick, just, ya know... ;)

(hope all you od folks are doing well! <3)
 
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