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total abandonment....pls help

XOCVANDALX

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Ok ive been going to bluelight for like ten years now but i rarely post. But right now im seriously confused. Im hoping to get some decent feedback :)
Ok i started dating this girl in May of 2010. I was twenty three years old and fresh out of prison so i was defidently enjoying the female company. This girl that i had been friends with suddenly took interest in me. I had known her for a few years before we started dating and i had virtually no interest in being anything more than a friend to her. She wanted to hook up with me but i kinda put it off for a little cause i never really looked at her like that. But we hooked up and we started dating shortly after. Keep in mind i had NEVER had a girlfriend before and the list of girls ive hooked up with prior to her was relatively short compared to a lot of my peers. She always knew from day one that i used dope. When we first started dating i was open about it and i would do things like slam heroin and she would itch my head. But really soon she let me know that if she was guna be with me the drug use was guna have to end. Her brother struggles with heroin and has been in and out of jail for the past ten years or so. So i suppose she had seen the damage it can do to someone first hand.

So wat did i do? Well wat any addict does i lied about doing it. I was so strung out all i cared about was getting loaded and her needs were never an issue to me at that point in time. Doing the dope behind her back went on for a solid six months. She would find out i wqs using i would tell her i was straight she would come back. This happened quite a few times but of course i never really stopped if anything i might of lowered my use a little but never totally quit. I was living a lie.

Last december (about a year ago) i took 4mg of xanax and shot up my usual amount of black tar heroin. Big mistake. I hadnt done xanax in almost two years. But i use to heavily abuse it...to the point where i would need 6mg just to get a buzz going. So io thought i could handle two petty xanax bars. Well the combo of xanax and heroin damn near killed me and if it wasnt for my friend walking in on the bathroom to see me sprawled out pretty much dead than i highly doubt i would be sharing this with u all today. So i basiclly almost died and she cried a lot my friend told me. I sent her messages like i wish i would of died and messed up things like that cause she broke up with me and i was already out of my mind with the pills and dope.

Due to my parole status i was facing a violation for using heroin. The cops came with the paramedics the night i od and spread the word to my parole officer real quick. So i thought i was going back to prison and i went on an even bigger run. I started doin pills and slammin dope like crazy. One day my mom walked in on me using and threw the spoon against the wall..which set me off a lot. I was so jacked up on pills and h that i thought it would be a good idea to call the cops and tell them i was guna jump off a bridge so i could "hide out" in the psych ward from my po.

Eventually i came to my senses and called my po. He said i should enter drug treatment in lieu of prison time. So i attended a 30 day rehab that was everyday for 13 hours. At this point my girlfriend had taken me back and she was happy i was getting my life straight and came over every night when i got back from rehab (it was outpatient).

After completing rehab everything was good. Our relationship was solid and she knew that i was serious about not putting a needle on my arm. But than a real fucked up thing happened.

My bed ridden grandma who i looked after fell off the toilet and broke her hip. The paramedics came and so did a couple cops who proceeded to do a parole search on my residence. They found an old hollowed out pen i used to smoke heroin with that was extremly old. I got possession of controlled substance parapehnilia and was returned to prison for seventy five days.

She still stuck by me and wrote me letters and stuff. She was on the team cause she knew the situation of me being behind bars was fucked off.

I got out last May and shit was just different. It was like having to restart the whole relationship and she expressed bitterness towards me being incarcerated. Ive got some time under my belt so 2.5 months wasnt too hard on me. But i began to look at it from her point of view and ya its kind of a long time to be away from someone u care for or "love".

We broke up in June cause i got drunk one night and said some pretty nasty stuff to her. She got with another guy i eventually found another girl. Well around the end of august we both decided to get back together cuz the people we were dating we werent compatible with. She told me she loved me and i told her i loved her. I started off kinda controlling but she told me it was a huge turn off so i stopped. Other than that our relationship was going strong i was taking her out to eat buying her shit and doing everything in my power to tell and show her i loved her and was happy to be back.

Towards september she caught me doing xanax again. This time she broke up with me and i could tell by her demeanor and all around attitude that she was sincerely over it. I guess i fucked up one too many times..

Between mental hospitals jails and drug addiction i can see why i was kind of on thin ice to begin with. I used behind her back again and really kinda didnt have much to say. She was fed up and i was caught red handed with those fucking pills again

Last night she called me at like 5am. I returned her call a couple hours later and she said her friend had the phone and somehow i must of accidentally been dialed. I asked her how she was doing how her job was and how it was with her new bf (whom she acquired kinda quickly but i expected it)

Anyways i know i provided plenty of background information. My concern is everytime i contact her she gives me extremly vague answers and basiclly hints around that she doesnt want to talk to me. I thought eventually she would stop doing this but its been a month and a half and she still acts this way everytime i contact her. She basiclly told me it was too early for us to see each other or be friends and i kinda think shes right....but does the occasional call now and than really hurt? I really grew attached to this girl she was like my best friend and the only one who inspired me to do better for myself..and now she makes no effort wat so ever to contact me.

Never did i think it would be like this i always thought if we broke up she would at least want to be friends and talk from time to time. Im not even wanting to personally see her at this point but i got no clue on why she wants to break all contact with me. The way i look at it she could of cheated on me fifty times and i would still eventually call her and stay in contact as friends. After all we were friends way before we got together.

After our very brief combo i sent her five very long text msgs. I know i should keep it short and sweet but im over playing games and i wanted to tell her that i would always have her back and that our time spent together was cherished by me. I also told her that right now prolly isnt the best time to be friends but i would appreciate an occasional phone call. Im seriously over trying to get her back i know right now its not guna work or it might never work. Fine. Cool. I got no choice to accept it. But im literally baffled at her ability to totally shut me out of her life completely and totally. To me it seems cold hearted and makes me think she never cared much to begin with.

So wat do u guys think? Why is she opting to totally eliminate me from her life? I literally cant believe she would totally abandon me like this and not call from time to time. Btw me calling her gets no where. The convo will never exceed two mins and even if i get that much out of her its like pulling teeth! Help me BL!
 
For as many times as you fucked up, a few months of her not wanting to talk to you isn't really that long imo. She sounds like she doesn't really want to be bothered with you for right now. Can you really blame her? It sounds like she stuck with you through a lot of shit, and each time you fucked up I'm sure it hurt her because she cared about you. She probably has a lot of resentment in her heart toward you that rises to the surface anytime you call or she thinks about you. Would you want to talk to someone that brought back painful memories and made you feel like shit?

Regardless whether or not time will heal her wounds and she'll want to be associated with you in future, I don't think you're doing either her or yourself any favors by pursuing even a friendship with her. If/when she feels differently towards you and wants to rekindle something, she'll contact you. In the meantime the best thing you can probably do is worry about yourself and keep your life straight.
 
If/when she feels differently towards you and wants to rekindle something, she'll contact you. In the meantime the best thing you can probably do is worry about yourself and keep your life straight.
That says it right there. Sounds like she reluctantly gave up on you after hoping and wishing you would get your shit together for a good long while. I'd try not to think about it, and basically write the idea off. If it happens in the future, great, but it doesn't sound like either one of you are ready to give it another go just yet.

If shes keeping the phone calls short that should be an indication that she is in a different place mentally and has realized she deserves to be treated better.

Been there.

Good luck.
 
You've hurt her, a lot. She needs time to get over this and be able to be in contact with you without old feelings and resentments ruining her mental wellbeing and the life she is building for herself.

With my ex it took me nearly a year before I was ready to be in contact with him. He used to pester me with emails, texts and cards but I needed him to give me several months of space and respect my request that he leaves me alone before I actually wanted to see him. Now we are friends again. I strongly suggest you send her one last text saying you'd like to hear from her when she's ready and that the ball is in her court, and leave it at that.

You say you never considered her feelings when you were using; if you truly want to be her friend, I suggest you start by considering her feelings now and respecting her need to have time and space away from you.
 
You need to stop being selfish and give her time to be able to give you love again...otherwise you will lose her.

Sort out your life, and she will contact you.

Lola knows what;s up, from a female's point of view.
 
also consider her brother maybe bbeing kind of flanked by self destructive ex-con junkies isnt exactly easy on her man. sober up and think.

also, you realise you could have/can get prescribed methadone, suboxone, or benzos if you really need them for mental problems, which you do, because you're an addict. if it's prescribed, you can get it dished out in a controlled manner by the clinic or family etc., and your GF would accept medication as opposed to illegal drug abuse.

once she's loved you she won't ever stop forever. but she might just slip away anyway, and it might teach you a lesson ? she's for you, for your health and progress, i think that's a lot to have for yourself right there already.
 
I agree with everyone saying you need to give her space. Contacting her is probably pushing you guys further apart.

I would say though, that this girl is the selfish and destructive one. She began a relationship with you, knowing she didn't want a drug user, and then forced her expectations on you. She spread misery knowingly - she started dating a dopehead, then got surprised and hurt when you used dope? Smart...This relationship sounds like it was built on sand to begin with. It could be worthwhile to consider why she'd start a relationship with someone who had such a dealbreaker as a way of life. Perhaps this is her way to avoid getting really close to someone, or she just likes creating drama and distress in the life of her (and those around her). Or she could just be an idiot.
 
So you lied to her again and again, and wonder why she "abandoned" you?
 
Man, she's probably devastated and terrified of letting you back into her life. I've been there, I've been lied to time and time again, and it gets to a point where you just break down and say "Fuck it, I can't do this anymore, my trust has been shattered too many times". Her guard is going to be up for awhile. It really hurts when you want so badly to believe in somebody, but they just go behind your back and lie to your face over and over. She's just protecting herself now at this point; she's trying to avoid getting hurt again.

I'd say the only thing to do here, is let her go, and get your own life together. If you can be a better person, quit using, quit lying to people, and get your own act together, then maybe someday you'll get lucky and she'll decide to let you in again. The only way she's going to do that though, is if she sees that you've truly changed, which means you have to do it even if she isn't there, otherwise she'll think you're just lying again to get back with her. Give her time and space, and if you're lucky, she'll come back. It's really all you can do man.
 
Thanks for the tips and advice. She told me we could be friends we just can't hang out inperson. I do want to get her back in my life though and possibly try to win her back. Ne other advice or suggestions from the bl community?
 
Here's one: listen to the ten posts in this thread which unanimously tell you to LEAVE HER ALONE, give her some space and let her call the shots re when/how/if you can meet again. Sounds like you've made contact with her again so I'm not sure if you followed this advice, and there's only so much people can do if you won't take what we say on board.

Another advice: get on with your life, get new hobbies, meet new friends, talk to girls and go on dates even if you don't feel up to it, just to get some practice. Focus on you, stop obsessing about her as it sounds like your inability to leave it alone is another compulsive way of thinking at this stage and it's not going to help you move on with your life. Distract yourself for the next few months, until you wake up one day and there's enough other good stuff going on in your life to feel you can carry on, even without her.

You'll only ever have a chance of winning her back when you are no longer dependent on her, as a girlfriend or as a friend. When you can live a full, sober, meaningful life without her. Only then your will relationship have a chance of working.
 
having anything more than your own mind in this universe is just an illusion. strength lies in knowing that everything is really nothing.

/takes of lao tzu costume

do not strive to be attached to states that arent lasting. another's affection is nice to have, and should be cherished and celebrated of course. but to wrap one's own spiritual-structural integrity around such things is foolish. one simply cant build a foundation on sand and expect the tide to never change.

seriously, breathe deeper. meditate. force yourself to do this. understand that to be individually sovereign is the only true thing one can be attached to in this world. before any person can truly love another, one must be truly comfortable with the idea of infinite nothingness, to know that one's own soul is enough and plenty. to be free and absconded from "need" or attachment. one must strive for such integrity, and this is no easy task. to control the mind in this manner requires daily diligence, a discipline for meditation that is not unlike the need to breathe or eat. strive to know fully that you could be quite alright with nothing else in this world but your own self, and freedom from the attachment to things which dont exist will follow.

thus, "abandonment" becomes an impossible concept.

without such independence, one can only love and be attached to the things they receive from another, not the other him/herself.
 
In her brain, YOU = heartache, pain, let down, lies. She is only protecting herself from these feelings. It's like your parents telling you not to touch the hot stove when you were little. You've never touched it before, you want to, they say no, but you do it anyway and OUCH it hurts like hell. Next time you look at that stove, you know it's hot as shit and it's gonna hurt, so you're not gonna touch it again! Self preservation.
Seriously man, give the girl a break and leave her be. Get sober. Concentrate on YOU. Fix YOU. Maybe after all that is done, then you could try and reach out to her once more.
 
Leave her alone...completely, wait for her to contact you - be strong - MAN UP!! You're in a 50/50 situation - if you push it you will lose her, and if you give her the space she needs to calm down and see the situation in a different light, then you can be friends again...MAYBE.

I once pushed a friend too far, and they just need a while to see you in a positive way again. Just leave her well alone for a year or 2 until she contacts you...and if she hasn't, then take the lead and try, very cautiously, mind you.

Don't take our collective advice, and you can say goodbye to her forever, and that would be pretty stupid right?

Oh you think so too? Yeah thought so.

Peace
 
Here's one: listen to the ten posts in this thread which unanimously tell you to LEAVE HER ALONE, give her some space and let her call the shots re when/how/if you can meet again. Sounds like you've made contact with her again so I'm not sure if you followed this advice, and there's only so much people can do if you won't take what we say on board.

Another advice: get on with your life, get new hobbies, meet new friends, talk to girls and go on dates even if you don't feel up to it, just to get some practice. Focus on you, stop obsessing about her as it sounds like your inability to leave it alone is another compulsive way of thinking at this stage and it's not going to help you move on with your life. Distract yourself for the next few months, until you wake up one day and there's enough other good stuff going on in your life to feel you can carry on, even without her.

You'll only ever have a chance of winning her back when you are no longer dependent on her, as a girlfriend or as a friend. When you can live a full, sober, meaningful life without her. Only then your will relationship have a chance of working.

^I'd advise you to take this excellent advice.^

Focus on yourself right now and focus on staying sober and doing whatever it takes even if it's going to AA/NA meetings a few times a week and getting a job or two that keep you very busy, or just taking classes or something to keep yourself very busy.

Good luck.
 
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