Bupe took too much sub

[selfmedicinals]

i blow a tiny crushed chunk of subutex every night so im guessing its around .25 to .5. it cures my depression and anxiety. i get a slight opiate buzz and itchy balls....helps me just relax and lay on the couch with my eyes closed and tv on. sometimes i start to actually see my room through my eyelids and have out of body experience.

anyway....my buddy came over and crushed too much up and i didnt want to waste it or leave it there on the table so i dabbed my finger in it and put it under my tounge and blew the rest which was about the amount i usually do....around 3am i puked up everything in my stomach in under 30 seconds. this afternoon i woke up and tried to eat some rice which triggered me to puke up all of the water i drank after puking last night.....its about 4:20 pm now and i managed to hold down an apple. i feel better now but for some reason i keep tasting and smelling subs which kinda stimulates my gag reflex but not enough to gag or puke...just nausea.


i only could have taken about 1.5 mg AT THE MOST....could this be because i did some sublingual? btw i dont have a bad habit i just get 8mg pill at the beginning if each month when my other friend fills her script. an 8mg pill lasts about 3-4 weeks just blowing tiny pieces.

idk why this post is so long probably because im still feeling the adderall im prescribed to but im just wondering how long i should wait until i can blow like .5 and feel the effects i normally feel. i already know im retarded

 

[selfmedicinals]

maybe my nose got clogged and a bunch of bupe got absorbed when it became un-lodged up in my nose piece

 

[Rob27shred]

Bupe is a very potent opiate in case you didn't know. Around 40X more potent than morphine. It's no surprise that an opiate naive person got sick from a small dose of it. Bupe also has very long half life, anywhere between 36 & 72 hours. So I wouldn't re-dose unless you want to be puking all night again. Bupe is a pretty nasty opiate to use recreationally. It's a partial agonist & IMO does not have the same feel as a full agonist opiate. Just to warn you too, that small nightly dose you've been taking is more than enough to make you physical dependant on bupe given enough time. Don't be shocked that if you've been doing this for a few weeks you get a mild to moderate WD from stopping the bupe. The vials of bupe they make for IV use in hospitals only comes in 0.25mg/ml & 0.50mg/ml doses to give you an idea of how powerful it is. Suboxone/subutex are made for addiction treatment & meant for opiate dependant people, i.e. they should already have a very high tolerance.

 

[selfmedicinals]

hmmm....idk i did 2 lines about an hour ago which would equal an estimated .5mg and i feel way better the nausea is gone now....its weird but maybe the powder i rubbed on the bottom of my tongue produced a side effect that doesnt occur when snorted


and im aware of the potential withdrawal when i stop cold turkey BUT i realized 2 years ago when i went to detox for subutex that the withdrawal for me is all psychological. the dumbass docters there told me for 5 days straight that i wasnt showing signs of withdrawal. they gave me a trazadone which caused terrible RLS which they percieved as withdrawal. than they began gaving me 2mg subutex sublingual 3 times a day and i ended up really fucked up and puking until they threatened to stick a needle in my ass. than they decided it was time to transfer me to the rehab program and i just left....BUT THEY KEPT TELLING MY PARENTS NOT TOO BECAUSE THEY DIDNT WANT TO LOSE THE MONEY ID BE PAYING, IT TOOK 3 HOURS OF ARGUING BETWEEN ME THE DOCTER AND MY PARENTS ON SPEAKER PHONE...MY PARENTS DIDNT KNOW WHO TO TRUST SO I WALKED OUT AND DOWN THE ROAD TO A FARMERS MARKET TO CALL MY PARENTS. this was partly my fault for taking all the subutex they were giving me but i was bored out of my mind in that place. it was a huge waste of money. the power my mind has over me sometimes can make me imagine withdrawal when its really just me being a pussy wanting to take a drug to turn my mind off.

so basically i had no physical withdrawal symptoms from a year and a half of using .5 subutex daily. it was all in my head and those docters should be fired.

 

[selfmedicinals]

but yea after i left that detox center i stayed off subs for 6 months and didnt experience the psychologically induced withdrawal symptoms of insomnia and RLS that i was experiencing when i stopped taking subs before the whole detox fiasco

 

[Rob27shred]

Insomnia & RLS are PHYSICAL symptoms of WD. Your lucky you've been able to stay at a low dose as the physical WDs are much less intense & can be perceived as psychological symptoms. Best advice I can give you is to get off them while your WDs are still mild. For most people WDs become worse the more times they are experienced.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

For most people WDs become worse the more times they are experienced.

Very true.

 

[dankJ]

Rob27shred beat me to it in his post... but i will essentially repeat what he said....the restless legs and trouble sleeping ARE withdrawal symptoms. And i can guarantee you that it was NOT the trazadone that caused it. There's no way trazadone COULD cause it.

its weird but maybe the powder i rubbed on the bottom of my tongue produced a side effect that doesnt occur when snorted

I dont see how that could cause any side effects as that is exactly how you are supposed to take it. and the only thing crushing it up does (as opposed to putting it under the tongue as a whole pill) is just helps it dissolve quicker and your body to absorb it faster. you said you got physically ill around 3am ....what time did you take the subs? Also, you said you snorted your usual amount of about 1/4 to 1/2 a mg ....how much would you say you took under the tongue? and did you take any other kind of medicine and/or alcohol of any sort?

 

[selfmedicinals]

maybe it was the adderall combined with the subutex....or the fact that i have hard pebble like shits that are really hard to pass because the fecal matter is so dry...i havent shit in like 2 days but im urinating more than i was when i was sick but that might be because i was puking all of the fluid out of my stomach before it passed to my bladder

 

[selfmedicinals]

i know opiates cause some people to not be able to pee very easily but when that happens to me i just sit down and wait for it to come down and than i relax as much as possible until it starts flowing. i never experienced compacted shit caused by subutex before....it only happened when taking percocet or vicodin....this is the first time its happened on subs. i had diarrhea for a couple weeks before i went back on subs so i guess this is better than that. kinda tweaks me out that i havent shit in 2 days tho

 

[opiatekrzy]

adderall and bupe have a synergetic effect on eachother, they both increase eacother, adderall + opiates if its a heavy dose can exaggerate the the side effects of opiates (the adderall can) it can work for the better or worst