Misc Took Too Much Phenibut

[His Name Is Frank]

@Frank, Thanks for the advice and support, it's really helping me out. Already flushed my supply down the toilet, it's just not worth it for me. Just gotta make it through this day and I think I'll be fine. Do you think I have been experiencing withdrawal or simply prolonged effects of the drug? I'm having trouble falling asleep, byt I also feel really relaxed in bed. And, do you have any advice for getting through this (hopefully) last day of ill effects? Thank you!

It's to be expected, but no longer than a few days. My advice to you is to order l-theanine powder instead. It's pure extract from what is found in green tea. Take between 200-400 mgs a day, right before you go to sleep. Within a week, you'll begin to have vivid, movie-like dreams. Within two weeks, you'll begin to have lucid dreams and be able to control them. It's very interesting and helps you to relax a bit, too. It's not nearly as profound as Phenibut in its potency, but then again there is no withdraw to suffer through as a result.


By the way, if you want to reply to a comment, just hit reply underneath their comment. It's much easier than using @insert name here.

 

[dopemegently]

Yeah, this drug may be sold as a health supplement, but don't go underestimating it. I've tried many drugs, but never in my life have I used one with such a rapid tolerance build-up, physical dependence also occurs rapidly. As I said earlier I started with 3 grams a day, 3 days a week; now I need 9.5 grams every day...and I only even heard about the stuff 2 months ago!

Also, getting professional help for my phenibut problem would be difficult, as every doc I've spoken to hadn't heard of it. I'd say 99% of knowledge re this drug comes from forums such as this; not much is known of it in the medical community. I honestly believe phenibut is a useful drug; it just has to be used very, very cautiously ie twice a week max, and in small doses.

Perhaps kava could be a better option, if you struggle with anxiety. Unfortunately it's banned in the UK; I have a package due any day, and I'm hoping it's not stolen by those vultures at customs. Has anybody had much luck with kava?

 

[brownjesus4566]

@varg - thanks, hopefully i feel better soon. do you think the afterglow will end for me after two days, or will it be longer since i took a much higher dose?

 

[velmwend]

For me, the entirety of the phenibut experience includes two types of anxiety: One is characterized by euphoric and anxious "butterflies" in the stomach, and is accompanied by some of the "I'm in love" effects that velmwend mentioned above.

The other is the dysphoric, withdrawal anxiety. This is an edgy anxiety with a decreased ability to focus, and sometimes a tremor and lack of coordination/distance judgment. If you can lay still in bed, but simply cannot fall asleep, it seems like you are in some form of withdrawal. I wouldn't expect it to last too long. Your dosing was heavy, but it was over a relatively short period.

^ This.

 

[dopemegently]

Hating that anxiety withdrawal! If I take even a gram less than normal, I feel incredibly nervous and edgy. It's not good.

I get horny as hell on this stuff; anybody else noticing increased libido to the point of sexual mania?

 

[velmwend]

I get horny as hell on this stuff; anybody else noticing increased libido to the point of sexual mania?

Yep. Yesterday morning I lay in bed squeezing my partner's ass repeatedly, feeling a pleasurable jolt rush through my penis with each squeeze. She was still half asleep while I was doing this and so was I. I ended up cumming all over her ass before she'd even woken up properly. Then I fell asleep again, only to be woken by my partner ew'ing and FFS'ing at the cum. Then we had sex. Then I felt horny all day long, too. I kept getting raging hard-ons all day, to the point where the throbbing pressure built so much, that I ran into the kitchen and took my partner doggystyle over the table. I swear, we'd moved that table a good few feet by the time we'd finished.

Feel a bit shitty this morning, but saying that, it's a horrid day outside - very windy, wet and ominous. I should have spent yesterday contacting business associates (because the phenny gives me that edge) but I didn't. I need to do that today and I don't feel half as great.

Hope everyone has a great week

 

[dopemegently]

Haha nice one. Jealous as fuck though; broke up with gf 2 months ago and gagging for pussy. On this shit, all it takes is a curve of buttock, some cleavage, or visible panty lines, and I'm as hard as steel. My thoughts are becoming increasingly depraved. Just hope one of my little prospects I've got lined up is fucking slutty, I'm not in a dating frame of mind, if you know what I mean

 

[velmwend]

I always coped with a fleshlight during pussy drought. The Fleshlight Wonderwave was my fave. I got through quite a few of them. They can become addictive aswell. I could spend up to 9 hours a day fucking the fleshlight.

Good luck on the dating front.

 

[brownjesus4566]

Last night I only got 1.5 hours of sleep and the night before I got 4. The brain fog and anxiety are gradually lifting, and should be gone by tomorrow. Getting this little sleep will probably cause its own mental problems, does anyone have tips or experience with falling asleep on withdrawal?

 

[dopemegently]

Yeah, I've got a ton of very depraved internet porn to tide me over. I was actually thinking of experimenting with one of those fleshlight things, just never got round to it.I have to say they look quite realistic...

Re getting sleep during phenibut withdrawal, you may need to resign yourself to some restless nights. A couple weeks ago I stopped cold turkey and was also restless and highly agitated. In the end, I took 6 amitryptaline, 9 robaxin, 2 etizolam, and one mirtazipine; it got me off in the end, but I only managed to get 5 hours of light sleep. You could try sedatives, but it might be an idea to do some exercise and tire yourself out. When I went out running it really made a big difference.

 

[brownjesus4566]

Thanks, I will try exercising and taking benadryl. If I still can't sleep, would a small dose of phenibut help or would it just make things worse?

 

[dopemegently]

Yeah, I've also found taking high doses of valerian and melatonin make for a very effective sleep-aid. I believe valerian has some gaba activity, so it could also help with the WD symptoms. Another thing that could help is kava, and I've also heard taking reagant grade gaba sublingualy can also help.

I would avoid taking phenibut during a detox; a dose smaller than the dose you're tolerant to probably wouldn't do much for you at all. Also, by taking it you're going to prolong the detox process, so it's not a good idea. I wouldn't touch the stuff until I was completely clean if I was in your position.

Luckily enough, I believe the withdrawals don't last long at all. You're probably looking at 7 days of discomfort; if it were benzos you were detoxing from, you could be clucking for around 6 months...it could be a lot worse.

 

[brownjesus4566]

Yeah, but considering I've only taken it three times, I'm frustrated that there are withdrawal symptoms at all. Only got one hour of sleep tonight was well, and I've got a midterm today. Exercised, took valerian, and took benadryl, didn't work. I can feel my cognitive abilities decreasing from lack of sleep. Seriously, I think I might be allergic to the stuff, because this prolonged reaction to the drug is definitely not normal.
Sorry to be so negative, it's just been a deteriorating experience, and I want it to end, but it feels like the end is nowhere near in sight. Any more support or advice you all have would be greatly appreciated.

 

[velmwend]

Withdrawal could possibly be as a result of dopamine crash. Try 1mg Etizolam for sleep.

 

[dopemegently]

Oh, you've only been taking it for 3 days? I'd say it's almost impossible that you're dependent; no drug can cause physical dependence in that short a time frame. No, it's not withdrawal you're feeling, but merely a hangover or "rebound"effect. Phenibut has a very long half-life, so I'd say once it's out of your system, you'll be back to normal.

And yeah, phenibut does have dopamine activity. Some people find it quite euphoric; so you may have a dopamine depletion right now. Taking etizolam could help you get through a dopamine crash-it will chill you out, and certainly give you a deep, restful sleep. Just don't use it too many day's in a row, it is a benzo after all.

 

[Opanaking]

Man someone really hit the nail on the head when they said "when there is a problem with drugs alcohol is usually involved" I always used to take 4mg's of klonopin then have a couple of margartias. It was my favorite buzz, but things could get out of control at any given moment. Bad shit happened that probably would not have if I did not have the alcohol in my system.

Then again I had some of the best times of my life. It was nice while it lasted, but there's only so long you can drink and mix pills before your really screwed.

Back on topic, Phenibut has a really long half life. Even if you have mid terms just try to relax, do the best you can do and leave it at that. There is no point in beating your self up if your having trouble studying. A lot of students run into problems in college, life isn't perfect. Sure it's best to always be studying around the clock, but sometimes that's not always possible.

Just ride it out and you will be fine. If you ever take phenibut again make sure to take a much smaller dose like one gram.

It's also possible for re bound anxiety to occur after taking phenibut. It happens all the time even to people that only take it a few times.

 

[brownjesus4566]

I'm pretty sure all my remaining symptoms are just a product of barely sleeping for 4 nights. Can't sleep tonight as well so far, I'll probably take benadryl and valerian but i doubt it will work.

Something interesting happened: yesterday, 2 hours before my midterm, I drank a cup of coffee, and it was like drinking four cups; my heart was racing and I felt very anxious. I think I did pretty well on my midterm, but I'm not sure how clear my judgement is atm. Interesting that while on pheni tolerance to alcohol decreases but while withdrawing tolerance to caffeine decreases, but I guess that makes sense.

@dopemegently I really find it astonishing that I could be experiencing phenibut withdrawal after 3 days of use, but there's no other way to explain the insomnia. I did have copious amounts of alcohol onr night on pheni, so that might have somehow compounded withdrawal effects. It'd be insane if this is all just psychological, but its a possibility

Has anyone here gotten around 1 or 2 hours of sleep for four days straight? If so, what symptoms can I expect in the following days? Hopefully no extreme fatigue or hallucinations, I'm already getting tired at random times and experienxing tinnitus.

 

[brownjesus4566]

@opanaking
Just curious, how would you compare benzos to phenibut, based on increasing confidence and social affinity? I'd imagine benzos are better in this respect, because they are thpically prescribd for anxiety. Wow, benzos and alcohol. Haven't taken benzos yet, but based on what I've read I can't imagine a better social catalyst .

 

[brownjesus4566]

Any effective otc meds for insomnia? I don't want to order something because by the time it ships hopefully I'll be fine

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

Thanks for the info/support dude. Yeah I'm never taking this stuff again, can't believe its legal.

If they made it illegal (Phenibut / β-Phenyl-γ-aminobutyric acid A.K.A. β-PHENYL-GABA), it would make all analogues illegal (if the CIIIed it), and since not only is gaba sold as a supplement, there are many other gaba analogs in current medical use which could have repercussions from the scheduling of Phenibut. Hell, maybe it will be recognized as a legitimate drug and schedule IVed so it can be prescribed.