G'day. I'll give a bit of a background. I learnt of this combination through another forum and due to me being quite introverted and of a shy type of personality, (although I love being in socialising environments) I really wanted to give it a try.
When I researched selegiline, I was amazed that a prescription only (at least in Oz) from a doctor could have so many advantages to our health (at low doses). Talked to the doc and got a script written out.
I was taking 5mg per day for about 2 weeks before my PEA came in. It was in a powder form and I mixed some in a little bit of water. Didn't notice anything from that. It was a really small amount though. The 'serving size' was supposed to be 100mg which I thought would be buggerall so it really was bugger all. I have read that much higher dosages are needed to get desired effects.
Before going out with friends I half filled 4 size 00 gelatin capsules with the PEA powder. I took the 5mg dose of selegiline and then 20 minutes later took 1 of the PEA capsules.
20-30 minutes later I still felt nothing, so I thought, bugger it, I'll take the remaining 3 to see what that does.
As soon as I swallowed the last 3, I got this really weird feeling in my head. Then my hair and face started to tingle, then the rest of my body started tingling. My eyes lit up and I could NOT stop smiling! I must have looked pretty goofy. I could feel my heart beat in my chest much harder but definatly not faster (or if it was it was neglitiable).
This buzz lasted several hours at least and the 'come down' was slow and not noticeable.
Then I asked my brother if he could try PEA on its own (he does not take MAO inhibitors). I have him half a teaspoon in water (would have been around 3 capsules worth). He felt nothing from it at all.
Went out last night to a party (2 weeks after my first dose and no PEA in between). I thought if I dont try a stupid dose once, it'll bug me forever. So I took 5mg of selegiline. 1 1/2 hours later I took another 5mg of Selegiline. Then 1 hour later I took 3 capsules of PEA with a glass of water.
I probably should have taken more than 1 glass of water taking into account what it could feel like once the capsules dissolved. Wasn't overly bad though.
About 10 minutes later I got the tingles again!! And the goofy smile and beady eyes and strong beating heart. I think my head felt a bit lighter too but was not unstable walking or anything. However for one small time one thing I did notice was that it felt like I had to be concious to breathe. But this was only when I was trying to interpret the effects. When my mind was on other things there was no problem. This particular night was a cocktail party. There felt to be no problem and no less tolerance to alcohol. Infact, I think the PEA kept me from the depressive effects of alcohol because although I had 5-6 cocktails over 4 hours, I remained a happy goofy looking drunk that could still walk reasonably straight.
Anyway, I took another 3 of the capsules about 3 hours after the first 3. Added a little kick (some tingles), but topping up seems to be a waste as does not give a kick like the initial dose. (or topping up that soon).
My goofy smile stayed with me for most of the night/early morning though.
I would/will only ever use PEA when going out. I would hate to have that sort of feeling as an everyday, every situation type thing as I fear my highs would be my normals and my normals my lows.
Will never take 10mg ever again though. Certainly noticed the 'dry mouth' side effect and the PEA made it worse I believe (dry mouth got worse soon after the 2nd PEA dose.
Will continue to take selegiline though, but will cut it back to 2.5mg per day and then see what taking that dose every 2nd day will do when trying PEA out. I am a fit healthy 25 year old who really doesn't need to take that much as a maintaince dose. If reduced effect is noticed, i'll just take a 5mg dose on the day I am going to take PEA instead.
There was a few days after the first week of selegiline taking that I had trouble sleeping, but that seems to be fine now. (increased dopamine).
Other supplements I took before hand in conjuction with the selegiline and PEA
500mg Rhodiola Rosea
1 table spoon of maca
1 table spoon of raw organic cocoa nibs/powder
1 serving (equiv to 40g whole plant) Tribulus. (It does not mention % of saponins so probably of low quality). I have since got one that says 70% now that also has longjack and horney goat weed. hmmm
I have taken all the above (and more) and had NO mental effect from them.
Given that my brother felt absolutely nothing (and we are identical twins so should probably respond to substances in similar ways). I would say that unless you take a massive dose of PEA to overwhelm the system and dont mind the toxic breakdown of when it is metabolised, it is a waste of money. MAO-B inhibitors like selegiline definatly work and when you do get a rush, it stays for many hours.
CognitiveNutrition
06-16-2007, 12:29 AM
G'day. I'll give a bit of a background. I learnt of this combination through another forum and due to me being quite introverted and of a shy type of personality, (although I love being in socialising environments) I really wanted to give it a try.
When I researched selegiline, I was amazed that a prescription only (at least in Oz) from a doctor could have so many advantages to our health (at low doses). Talked to the doc and got a script written out.
I was taking 5mg per day for about 2 weeks before my PEA came in. It was in a powder form and I mixed some in a little bit of water. Didn't notice anything from that. It was a really small amount though. The 'serving size' was supposed to be 100mg which I thought would be buggerall so it really was bugger all. I have read that much higher dosages are needed to get desired effects.
Before going out with friends I half filled 4 size 00 gelatin capsules with the PEA powder. I took the 5mg dose of selegiline and then 20 minutes later took 1 of the PEA capsules.
20-30 minutes later I still felt nothing, so I thought, bugger it, I'll take the remaining 3 to see what that does.
As soon as I swallowed the last 3, I got this really weird feeling in my head. Then my hair and face started to tingle, then the rest of my body started tingling. My eyes lit up and I could NOT stop smiling! I must have looked pretty goofy. I could feel my heart beat in my chest much harder but definatly not faster (or if it was it was neglitiable).
This buzz lasted several hours at least and the 'come down' was slow and not noticeable.
Then I asked my brother if he could try PEA on its own (he does not take MAO inhibitors). I have him half a teaspoon in water (would have been around 3 capsules worth). He felt nothing from it at all.
Went out last night to a party (2 weeks after my first dose and no PEA in between). I thought if I dont try a stupid dose once, it'll bug me forever. So I took 5mg of selegiline. 1 1/2 hours later I took another 5mg of Selegiline. Then 1 hour later I took 3 capsules of PEA with a glass of water.
I probably should have taken more than 1 glass of water taking into account what it could feel like once the capsules dissolved. Wasn't overly bad though.
About 10 minutes later I got the tingles again!! And the goofy smile and beady eyes and strong beating heart. I think my head felt a bit lighter too but was not unstable walking or anything. However for one small time one thing I did notice was that it felt like I had to be concious to breathe. But this was only when I was trying to interpret the effects. When my mind was on other things there was no problem. This particular night was a cocktail party. There felt to be no problem and no less tolerance to alcohol. Infact, I think the PEA kept me from the depressive effects of alcohol because although I had 5-6 cocktails over 4 hours, I remained a happy goofy looking drunk that could still walk reasonably straight.
Anyway, I took another 3 of the capsules about 3 hours after the first 3. Added a little kick (some tingles), but topping up seems to be a waste as does not give a kick like the initial dose. (or topping up that soon).
My goofy smile stayed with me for most of the night/early morning though.
I would/will only ever use PEA when going out. I would hate to have that sort of feeling as an everyday, every situation type thing as I fear my highs would be my normals and my normals my lows.
Will never take 10mg ever again though. Certainly noticed the 'dry mouth' side effect and the PEA made it worse I believe (dry mouth got worse soon after the 2nd PEA dose.
Will continue to take selegiline though, but will cut it back to 2.5mg per day and then see what taking that dose every 2nd day will do when trying PEA out. I am a fit healthy 25 year old who really doesn't need to take that much as a maintaince dose. If reduced effect is noticed, i'll just take a 5mg dose on the day I am going to take PEA instead.
There was a few days after the first week of selegiline taking that I had trouble sleeping, but that seems to be fine now. (increased dopamine).
