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surfer179

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Right about seven weeks ago i took 0.5g of crystal mdma in 3 bombs

about 3-4 days afterwards i started to feel weird, these were my symptoms...

vision problems, feel like i was in a complete daze, everyone around me looked like they were moving too fast to catch up, couldnt grasp reality properly

anxiety/panic attacks (probably due to what the hell was going on)

complete utter short term memory loss, would think back to what i done during the day earlier and think " shit i cant even remember how the day went"

trying to think on a subject or equation was an absolute nightmare

had no motivation, thought i was losing my mind

dizzyness/felt weird turning my head

brain zaps during the day and when i went to sleep (only lasted a 10 days though)

a mild depersonalization/ but not that noticeable

anyways these are my symptoms and over a three week period it was probably the worst three weeks of my life. I researched over and over on the internet about people with the symptoms i was having and there was quite a response on people who were having the problems or near enough the same thing i was going through but there was a problem......i wasn't getting the answer i wanted to know..... and that was

RECOVERY TIME

every post i saw wouldnt say how long it took for the people who had the symptoms to recover. Now if your reading this and you have the symptoms above or partly some then your probably agree with me when i say that you think your losing your mind ? you think its never going to end ? you think your life has took a drastic turn and that you dont know how to live properly anymore? and you just want a way to get out of this mess and live your life as normal ?

well trust me when i say this.....YOU WILL RECOVER BUT IT DOES TAKE TIME, there is no quick fix to this, i had the severe probelm for about a month, but i learned from someone very knowledgeable on a forum who spoke about the subject that staying positive will speed up your recovery time, its not something that will go over night, its something that gets better as weeks go on.

The reason i post this is because there is not enough information giving to people who are going through this, the reason why it is not a researched topic is because there is simply no money in it. But trust me when i say this that you will get better, it may take 2 months, it may take 6 , it can take a year! it all depends on the person, everyone is different but the beauty of it is that the brain is an amazing thing it can recover from much more damage than you are having right now.... so please dont think to yourself " am i gonna be like this forever? " because you wont ! stop thinking silly.....questions to yourself like this will only make you panic more which isnt good for recovery.

The way i am recovering so much quicker is because im getting on with my life just as normal without letting the symptoms bother me. When i started doing this the symptoms started to diminish ever so slighty and now i go through my day and even forget about what im going through because im not letting it eat me up! you cannot let it get to you, its going to get better ? so stop worrying and live life to the full because it is too beautiful to waste!

im going to give you some things that will speed up your recovery even more which helped me alot in the last 3 weeks.....

exercise! exercise releases feel good chemicals in your brain !, it is sucha a crucial thing to speed up your recovery!, i didt exercise for the first month but after i found out it helps i started running round the block for 15mins everynight , i also went to the gym and done weights as i use to before this incident.....it helps so much to speed up recovery

eat healthy eat greens eat meat just eat lots, it will feed your brain to recovery

dont do other drugs especially weed! i cant tell you enough that doing other drugs when your trying to recover is just complete stupidity, your trying to heal your brain and putting even more shit to it is just rubbing salt into the wound!, stay sober!, weed does not help atall! it can even cause panic attacks, so stop doing drugs until you know you feel normal again!, i give no sympathy to people who are desperate to recover but are still smoking weed or doing drugs because your not helping yourself !

and lastly continue life as you would! stay positive!, dont let this bother you, the more you let it bother you the more your going to worry about it!, just continue life as normal and i promise you the symptoms will diminish, be happy and be in company with friends , it helps so much !

Also i have read alot about the use of benzos and SSRI's to help recover, there seems to be a bit debate about it but i believe that adding even more chemicals into your brain to help you recover may help you in the short term but once you get off them your going to have even more problems. Masking the symptoms isnt healing them ! stay off of them in my opinion , i tried benzos (diazepam) in the first week but i just stayed off of them, yes they help anxiety very well but there not the answer! you need to get through this on your own !, the mind is a powerful thing and being strong and controlling how you feel is key to getting over it.

Im probably now about 92% back to normal, but i still have weird stages through the day but hardly as much as i use too, i stayed sober ( not alcohol as i went to zante greece for a week and got smashed every night haha 2 weeks ago ;) ) but it didt really slow down my healing but i would say its not exactly helping.....

so basically stay positive and dont panic! your going to be fine!

if you want any advice or want to know anything i went through let me know on here and il be happy to help you, because i know what your going through, its fucking horrible but im positive 6 months to a year down the line il be back to myself and so will you ! so stop panickin and looking up on forums about whats going wrong with you because you dont need too ! i found that looking up on forums just makes things worse because you read the most horrible shit ever like.....

"iv been like it for 4 years now and i dont think im ever gonna get better" dont read that shit ! is that you? NO

its probably someone who takes 20 pills a day so dont think its gonna be you !

so stay off the forums and stay positive , your going to be FINE :D
 
hey surfer,

thank you for this information. hope this will encourage other people suffering long term comedown.

i'm at month 5 now, and haven't seen much improvement yet.

i haven't lost hope, but its very annoying.

again - thanks for the thread, maybe other personal experiences will be posted.

best of luck
 
hey cope

your welcome, i just want to reassure people of the comedowns of mdma or ecstasy which people are having. There is not enough information of recovery and i want to help people who are going through such shit at the moment or in the future.

your at the 5month mark? dont worry i have read the same thing as what u said but it does take time, give it time and u will heal i promise you...

do you have the same symptoms as what i posted?
 
hi surfer,

yes, the symptoms are the same, but i have to add emotionless to the list.

i am abstinent from everything even alcohol.

doing exercise, eating healthy and i sleep a lot.

did you take any supplements ?

best of luck
 
yeah i had the emotionless symptom for a while but its starting to fade now......

yes i sleep a lot aswell, been tired much more during the day than usual since it happened

yes i took a benzo diazepam for a week but there no good for recovery i learnt, i learnt you have to deal with the problem by yourself, i also took a thing in the uk here called neurozan from holland and barrett which is a brain functioning tablet to help memory and concentration etc and that made me go back to complete normal but i realised that i shouldnt take them and just let my brain recover on its own as i didt want to have to rely on a tablet to help me. you might want to try them as they may work for you.....as i said everyone is different, good luck to you though, i promise you will get out of it !, have u not seen any improvement atall?
 
hey surfer,

i agree on the benzos, don't think they will aid recovery.

if there is improvement it is very subtle.

i think i will just wait and keep the already posted routine i do.

best of luck.
 
hey cope, yeah benzos are not going to help the problem, just say sober from everything, exercise, eat healthy and get plenty of sleep and im positive your return to normal.

hey futura i bought it from holland and barrett and i used it for 3 days, ( you take one tablet a day) and on the second day i felt back to normal (a friday) and i took the last one on the saturday the next day hoping that the tablets had cured it or my brain had just returned to normal, that was 2 weeks after i had tooken the mdma (5 weeks ago). i stopped taking them and by the tuesday wednesday things went all weird again but saying that they were no were near as bad as they were before i took the tablets so maybe the tablets were curing it helping brain function but i never continued taking them at just let my brain heal itself.

the neurozan contain

20mg 5HTP

vit b1, b2 , b6, b12, d3

folic acid, zinc, iron

phosphatidylserine (not sure what that is)
and some others which are all there to help contribute to normal brain function and performance.

type it in on google if you want more as its quite a known product,

it basically just sorted my brain out and i felt completey back to normal for about 3-4 days after i took the 3rd tablet but after 3-4days without taking it things just went weird again as i said. (but big improvement than before i took the tablet so maybe continious taking of the tablet may recover u completely) it cost me around £10 pounds (uk) and you get 30 tablets ( a months worth)

its worth a go if your not feeling any recovery atall

hope i helped :)
 
Welcome to the dark side of mdma.

Don't worry, you are not alone. I fucked myself up good. I am at month three of this shit. Stay the hell of the internet, you are only going to freak yourself out.

I started with intense depersonalization and terrible anxiety. I have learned how to live life and not really bother myself with how off the world seems. I have seen a significant improvement and I am completely functional but there is still something definitely not right with my consciousness. I am thinking I have a few more months until I am back at baseline.

I know everyone says this but once you stop tripping about it, it gets better. It is really really hard not to worry about the damage that has been done when your entire perception is off but trust me when you can start living your life again it starts to get better.

Right now I have moderate derealization but the brain fog and the zaps have completely gone away, I still have moderate anxiety but I notice that it is slowly going away as well. For me, social drinking has really helped. I cant drink any caffeine because it makes me feel terrible.

Go to the Dr. get checked out and start working on mitigating the anxiety.

You will be ok, you just pissed off your brain. Everyone seems to recover, it just takes a long ass time.

EDIT: sublingual b12 has really helped. I am not sure if it has filled the caffeine void or what but it is the only supplement that I found has had any impact.

Also on the supplement note: there is no magic pill to cure this. You have to work it out on your own. I initially spent a lot of money and energy looking for a "cure". The terrible feelings are driven on anxiety and when you are constantly looking for a cure it only makes things worse. Once you let go, you start to feel better.
 
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Hello surfer and dawglaw.

I was recovering quite well from an incident with BZP and MDMA last year in Sept 2011.

Unfortunately I got spiked in April 2012 (its a long story i wont bore you with the details I estimate 1g or so)

Since then ignoring it has been super tough. I was going out before but not now. I just cant do it. It seems nerves are the main issue.

I have been taking E for about 18 years, I have had one long comedown before that lasted 6 months so I am no stranger to this situation.

But unfortunately this time I find it difficult. just VERY difficult to be honest.

I am hoping I can gain a little more energy and confidence as I realise staying in all the time wont help.

This is why I was interested to hear about the supps.

Tried Ads SSRIs, trisyclics, NaSSAs , tried benzos, anti psychotics.`None of it had any effect.

Alcohol has no effect on me, benzos have no effect, Z drugs such as zopiclone has no effect.

I do understand what people are saying however its like you have to fight to ignore it. It was the extra dose that crippled me I was battling before then.

Bluelight has been a great thing for me. A place to make friends and help out where possible.

Thanks for the info much appreciated.
 
hey dawglaw

i agree with you 100%, you cannot let it take over you, you cant worry about it , you have to get on with your life as much as possible, i have learnt that and the last few weeks have got so much better i have got to the point where im in work and i think " fuck for the last 2 hours iv forgot i even had a problem" thats how much better it has got. i have read alot about positive thinking on this and i have heard that if you think positive it makes new pathways iin the brain which makes the chemicals in your brain restable (this is no joke). futura you cant use ssri's ! they are not the answer, you have to stay sober off everything for your brain to heal!, they are not the answer!, its been 7 weeks since it happened and im feeling so much better! you know why ? because i stayed off antideppressants, stayed off benzos and just stuck to let my brain recover on its own! and im staying positive, ever since i stayed positive my brain has been getting every week, im getting to the point where i dont even look up this shit.... you know why? because looking up this shit just makes it worse

i made this post to help people because i read so many people having the same problem but never saying how they got cured and i want to help people , trust me this will go away.... you just gotta stay positive and not let it interfer with your life!

best of luck to you guys
 
also i have not had anxiety since week 1-2, because i didt let it bother me ! your not gonna be fucked forever TRUST ME!
 
Hey surfer

Its a great post i really respect that you have taken the time to do this.

Its not just the members either many people just browse bluelight and read so your information and words are appreciated for sure.

I agree with everything you are saying.

The point you make about getting out there is equally as relevant as exercise and recovery time.

What you mention about new pathways is also very relevant.

My first long term comedown was a lot easier than the second thats for sure..

Good luck to you also.

Great post.
 
When i was rolling at raves, not too often like every 2 months average i experienced this. And i did the worst thing possible during recovery, i kept smoking strong weed even though it was making my anxiety terrible. I went through over a hundred panick attacks on weed but was stubborn and kept smoking, eventually i learned that even if i feel anxious on weed i won't let it turn into a panic attack. Anyways, the best thing to do is keep busy and not focus on the issue. Stop doing more drugs, especially weed because it just make you feel worse while your on it. At least other drugs make you feel good for a while. Also stock up on supplements to help replenish neurons and exercise. With that schedule even if it takes some time, you will recover almost guaranteed.
 
hey futura

thank you for the appreciation.

but yeah carrying on with life as normal as possible and not getting worked up about it is a def a cure for this. Dont let it bother you and just try to continue as much as possible, that is what im doing and staying happy is def curing me.

hey f1n1shed im positive that smoking weed just causes anxiety and makes it worse, which is a good thing that i dont smoke it( dont like the buzz just makes me feel tired and a drip LOL).

just stay positive and keep doing what you would normally do is my advice, how long did it take you too recover f1n1shed ?
 
When I was researching MDMA for my first roll I came across someone who has developed some suplements to combat this. They are designed specifically for neurotoxicity from MDMA and other psychoactives. It's called "Mind Food" but cant seem to find it now. He also makes one for anxiety called "Chill Pill". I'll try to find them and post a link.
 
Hey guys, thanks for the great posts. I think I hit a wall myself....My main symptom this round is extreme fatigue. It is driving me nuts, it feels like coming off of hydrocodone but not as bad, however it is still scary and nagging. Absolutely zero concentration, complete and total fog. I know I just gotta wait it out. It was GO GO GO GO for the last 2 months so I was prone to dosing, and now I am recovering. Exercising is my #1 healing tool. 30 min of cardio and some weights and I almost feel normal for a bit. Thank you for writing this, it really helps me to read it.
 
Good advice OP and glad to hear you bounced back :)

Never listen to the little voice telling you it would be easier dead...dont go and buy that gram of smack!!
 
hey rebubula and laugh,

i just want people to not panic and do what i done when i first got these symptoms of worrying and researching every single thing on google to find out what the hell was wrong with me !

your all going to be fine , its TIME that is your healer, the more positive you are, the more quicker you will recover

if you have any questions dont be afraid to ask :)

surfer
 
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