Harm Reduction Tobacco, not illegal. Just unavailable.

[LuiBliss]

I don't want to ban it but, I have seen family members die early because of it.
All because one freak of nature lives long is hardly in keeping with the scientific method.

If I had my way they would be almost tax free and you would be able to still smoke in bars. And restaurants could choose to allow a smoking section or not. As a teenager I could smoke in malls and restaurants.

You missed the point, smoking is not healthy, but up to the individual whether or not to smoke, chew tobacco or whatever.

I am against all these bans and high taxes. I also believe second hand smoke shit is basically bullshit, with a few narrow exceptions.

Hell, I even believe allowing smoking to prisoners who behave themselves as long as they aren't trading the weak for a few packs or cartons of cigarettes.

I am horrified at them raising the smoking age to 21. If you your 18 and an American male, you have do what I did and almost every other 18 year old male who is an American male does. Go to the post office or possibly a federal building and register for the selective service. Even though there hasn't been a draft( besides sports, smart ass) in over half a century.

Smoking is not healthy, so what, it is a choice. And I am against all the bullshit that really start to gain momentum in the 90's. I am against it in elevators, theatres, commercial jets on commercial flights, (but I would allow for specifically designated flights to allow it) and some other places. However I believe it is up to the proprietor of a business to decide if they want to allow it or not.

If you really believe smoking cigarettes is good for you, then you need to put the pipe down and get help.

Smoking is bad for you, as you mentioned, supposedly by the scientific method. And ONLY the scientific method. The scientific method is NOT the end all be all of methods and perspectives.

Ofcourse, in the society we live in, the scientific method is the chosen method to be adhered to.

But I believe in the alternatives.

I know that chakras exist, and I know that chi energy exists. And I know that naturopathy and herbalism offer much benefit to ones health.. all contrary to the scientific belief system.

Native cultures view tobacco as a holy medicine. And is used for medicinal purposes.

So why are you telling me to neglect all this info and telling me what the next man says, even though what I am doing, is consciously bringing a contrary thought into the matter and brining to the table that we are not considering all the facts.

Nor are we trained to smoke in a fashion that is medicinal to us. I would imagine all the people you supposedly lost to tobacco smoking, if it was actually tobacco smoking that caused it and not other poor lifestyle choices (or poor lifestlye choices coupled with tobacco smoking --> dangerous), then like there is the idea that they had abused tobacco smoking and did not do it in a mindful way.

 

[Jnowhere]

Smoking is bad for you, as you mentioned, supposedly by the scientific method. And ONLY the scientific method. The scientific method is NOT the end all be all of methods and perspectives.

Ofcourse, in the society we live in, the scientific method is the chosen method to be adhered to.

But I believe in the alternatives.

I know that chakras exist, and I know that chi energy exists. And I know that naturopathy and herbalism offer much benefit to ones health.. all contrary to the scientific belief system.

Native cultures view tobacco as a holy medicine. And is used for medicinal purposes.

So why are you telling me to neglect all this info and telling me what the next man says, even though what I am doing, is consciously bringing a contrary thought into the matter and brining to the table that we are not considering all the facts.

Nor are we trained to smoke in a fashion that is medicinal to us. I would imagine all the people you supposedly lost to tobacco smoking, if it was actually tobacco smoking that caused it and not other poor lifestyle choices (or poor lifestlye choices coupled with tobacco smoking --> dangerous), then like there is the idea that they had abused tobacco smoking and did not do it in a mindful way.

I got this great deal on this bridge that will take you from Brooklyn to Manhattan, and for you I will sell it real cheap.

 

[Jnowhere]

I got this great deal on this bridge that will take you from Brooklyn to Manhattan, and for you I will sell it real cheap.

Better hurry, a customer is born every minute.

 

[LuiBliss]

well, back to topic, just because a few number of people abused alcohol and got liver damage or got in a car while drunk and killed themselves/others doesnt mean that drinking is bad period. If you were an alcoholic I would understand that. But moderate or knowing your limits with drinking/smoking would pose no harm and could actually be beneficial as is well known by having a glass of wine a day as being beneficial.

Smoking however is heavily demonized for reasons that I believe as having an agenda behind it.

Good luck with selling your bridge buddy.

 

[LuiBliss]

smoking is a very social activity, and conspiracy has it, with the government pushing for social seclusion and isolation (as seen with covid-19 protocols). They don't want us going out and having fun and being social.

 

[Jnowhere]

well, back to topic, just because a few number of people abused alcohol and got liver damage or got in a car while drunk and killed themselves/others doesnt mean that drinking is bad period. If you were an alcoholic I would understand that. But moderate or knowing your limits with drinking/smoking would pose no harm and could actually be beneficial as is well known by having a glass of wine a day as being beneficial.

Smoking however is heavily demonized for reasons that I believe as having an agenda behind it.

Good luck with selling your bridge buddy.

Reply, I am an alcoholic and got diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver just before I turned 40 many years ago. I only quit after I begged ALMIGHTY GOD, for help and one day, years after I was given a year to live; one day I am chugging 40's and next day I couldn't even get a whole beer(a can of natural ice or some other cheap easy to drink, piss water ice beer) down.

Then my body itched like crazy no matter how many Benedryls I took. I even tried taken a bunch an hour before drinking, same thing. I physically can no longer drink even beer, and actually there after hated alcohol.

 

[LuiBliss]

Reply, I am an alcoholic and got diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver just before I turned 40 many years ago. I only quit after I begged ALMIGHTY GOD, for help and one day, years after I was given a year to live; one day I am chugging 40's and next day I couldn't even get a whole beer(a can of natural ice or some other cheap easy to drink, piss water ice beer) down.

Then my body itched like crazy no matter how many Benedryls I took. I even tried taken a bunch an hour before drinking, same thing. I physically can no longer drink even beer, and actually there after hated alcohol.

wish you utmost health, wellness and wellbeing in life and much luck on your journey.

 

[Fire&Water]

smoking is a very social activity, and conspiracy has it, with the government pushing for social seclusion and isolation (as seen with covid-19 protocols). They don't want us going out and having fun and being social.

Lui gets it

 

[Jnowhere]

Lui gets it

Good to know thanks, and I never really thought about that. Great insight, bro.
I have known so many social drinkers who only smoke when they drink.

They do go together nicely. Too bad you didn't read my long and somewhat interesting story, about cigarettes and drinking in college.

 

[Fire&Water]

 

[Jnowhere]

Thanks, I ain't heard that in a long time.
I miss the music that was made when they used to write whole albums, that you could listen too, all the way through. None of this one or two songs on an album that are good shit.

Yeah write, one song and fill it with crap all except for one or maybe two songs if your lucky shit. Thanks again, bro.

 

[Fire&Water]

Speaking of
getting your wings

I remember reading an article from steven tyler before they made it on AOR
(non quote)
I was withdrawaling from barbs and opiates, depressed as fuck during another cold bleak autumn day pissed off about having to pay taxes again

my band mate brought me a three stringed dumpster guitar and I wrote
'Seasons of Wither'

I'm not a big Aerosmith fan
but it's probably their best song

fireflies that dance in the heat of
hounddogs that bay at the moon

genius

 

[Jnowhere]

Great song, I ain't heard this since sometime last century. I like a number of their songs alot but I wouldn't call myself a huge Aerosmith fan either, but they have had a number of great songs over the decades.
Thanks again, gotta listen to it again.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Why do you think that it's bad? why don't you make lifestyle choices where smoking would be a complimenting factor to it. It seems that you think fire, as mentioned in the video, is also bad? It's bad if you burn yourself with it.. it's bad when it causes forest fires.. But campfire is awesome. A fireplace keeps you warm and its awesome. The fire that cooks your food is awesome. But this same fire burnt a lot of peoples house down. So if it burnt down people houses i.e. people died of cigarette smoking.. does it mean that all fire is bad?

The longest living human was a smoker, how was that bad? For all i know, she transmuted the ill effects that some people experince with smoking into a life of longevity. If she can do it we all can..

P.s. and yes the dude in the video is wise and does have good judgement :-D its me!!!

Sorry, mentioned that in you post, now you know i find your podcast boring.
And you have a smokers cough. disgusting right.

I grew up in smoke, and although as of the unavailebelty dropped/ price 4 fourfolded.
I guitted. But during my last trip got a message, my death cause, lung cancer.

Could be by smoking, secondary smoke, polution, bad luck or a accidental exposure to Asbestos.

But promote freedom and chainsmoke, earth overpopulared anyway.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

This is just blasphemy. Tobacco is a choice. Tobacco is freedom. Tobacco is holy. Tobacco is medicinal.

For harm reduction, they must let you know of the dangers of smoking tobacco, but there are benefits to it as well.

Jeanne Clement, lived to the age of 122, and is the oldest person to have ever lived, was a smoker.

Natives view it as medicine and is a plant that is worshipped.

There is another side to the story.

It's demonization is an attack on our freedom and liberty.

Watching the first part may [admit you look slic imo],
And assume you share with me the importance of freedom and also integrity.

Hope you understand i am not a Podcast guy, watch em,
did no research didn ment to offend you.

But well I got kids, and the considuring 1 hour toxic fumes, read that later on.
is worth considering the toxic flume you exhale a while,

 

[LuiBliss]

Sorry, mentioned that in you post, now you know i find your podcast boring.
And you have a smokers cough. disgusting right.

I grew up in smoke, and although as of the unavailebelty dropped/ price 4 fourfolded.
I guitted. But during my last trip got a message, my death cause, lung cancer.

Could be by smoking, secondary smoke, polution, bad luck or a accidental exposure to Asbestos.

But promote freedom and chainsmoke, earth overpopulared anyway.

All good bro, gets me amped up to make better and more interesting videos

Talking about the smokers cough, I just shot a video today by the beach and there was a lot of coughing! I was vaping. (so vaper's cough as opposed to smokers cough!! )

But in all cases, coughing means that you need to look at what you are doing a remedying the situation. It doesnt NOT mean you need to quit smoking and neither is quitting the only solution there is to smokers cough.

There are herbal remedies that empower the lungs and aids in their healing. There are various ways to consume herbal remedies and that includes drinking them as a tea or even smoking them.

Also, I am finding out that when smoking, for cigarettes to contain 100% tobacco is an error. A smoke needs to be balanced with other smokeable plants, like herbs, This combination does prove to be of the providence of a healthy smoke and smoking experience.

There is still much to be learnt and I am on the journey to discover the Truth about smoking and not just relying on preconceived ideas about it or believing everything "they" tell us. I know for a fact that there is much misinformation out there and there is a lot more incomplete knowledge.

I am improving the way I smoke and vape and increasing my wellness, wellbeing, vitality and vigour, I am on my road to become dtronger, fitter and more resiliant,, all while smoking tobacco, smoking herbs and vaping.

I am not at the end of my journey and i am still learning.

Watching the first part may [admit you look slic imo],
And assume you share with me the importance of freedom and also integrity.

Hope you understand i am not a Podcast guy, watch em,
did no research didn ment to offend you.

But well I got kids, and the considuring 1 hour toxic fumes, read that later on.
is worth considering the toxic flume you exhale a while,

Thanks for your complement, Emkee, and I can understand that podcasts may not be your thing, Podcasts, however, are very popular though and I use them as one of my avenues of spreading the word and sharing my discoveries.

I choose to not believe that tobacco smoke is toxic, quite the opposite. I know that it is actually very good for us given that a smudge bundle includes tobacco along with sage. Smudge sticks are used by Native's and tribes to elevate your spirit and consciousness and provides people who are partaking in the ritual involving tobacco to communicate with the spirit world.

I believe that the oppressors are making us believe that it is really bad for us and that there is no way to combat the dangers of smoking except to quit, As opposed to compliment your tobacco smoking experience with other substances that will aid in your healing process.

The oppressors don't want you elevating your consciousness neither do they want you to be communicating with the spirit world. In the name of freedom they shackle you in body and in spirit.

Theres nothing wrong with smoking in-front of kids and they will grow into it and benefit.

These are my beliefs and I thought long and hard about them. I did take the hard road of not giving into the system nor the oppressors ways and neither their lies.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

All good bro, gets me amped up to make better and more interesting videos

Talking about the smokers cough, I just shot a video today by the beach and there was a lot of coughing! I was vaping. (so vaper's cough as opposed to smokers cough!! )

But in all cases, coughing means that you need to look at what you are doing a remedying the situation. It doesnt NOT mean you need to quit smoking and neither is quitting the only solution there is to smokers cough.

There are herbal remedies that empower the lungs and aids in their healing. There are various ways to consume herbal remedies and that includes drinking them as a tea or even smoking them.

Also, I am finding out that when smoking, for cigarettes to contain 100% tobacco is an error. A smoke needs to be balanced with other smokeable plants, like herbs, This combination does prove to be of the providence of a healthy smoke and smoking experience.

There is still much to be learnt and I am on the journey to discover the Truth about smoking and not just relying on preconceived ideas about it or believing everything "they" tell us. I know for a fact that there is much misinformation out there and there is a lot more incomplete knowledge.

I am improving the way I smoke and vape and increasing my wellness, wellbeing, vitality and vigour, I am on my road to become dtronger, fitter and more resiliant,, all while smoking tobacco, smoking herbs and vaping.

I am not at the end of my journey and i am still learning.



Thanks for your complement, Emkee, and I can understand that podcasts may not be your thing, Podcasts, however, are very popular though and I use them as one of my avenues of spreading the word and sharing my discoveries.

I choose to not believe that tobacco smoke is toxic, quite the opposite. I know that it is actually very good for us given that a smudge bundle includes tobacco along with sage. Smudge sticks are used by Native's and tribes to elevate your spirit and consciousness and provides people who are partaking in the ritual involving tobacco to communicate with the spirit world.

I believe that the oppressors are making us believe that it is really bad for us and that there is no way to combat the dangers of smoking except to quit, As opposed to compliment your tobacco smoking experience with other substances that will aid in your healing process.

The oppressors don't want you elevating your consciousness neither do they want you to be communicating with the spirit world. In the name of freedom they shackle you in body and in spirit.

Theres nothing wrong with smoking in-front of kids and they will grow into it and benefit.

These are my beliefs and I thought long and hard about them. I did take the hard road of not giving into the system nor the oppressors ways and neither their lies.

Thank you for breaking the ice/ bringing peace, felt bad after, what to me felt like a direct insult to you.
When, after posting i read it was your own podcast. And i do listen podcast, but often.
On a.o. Bluelight, the caster seems pod. So Sai Guru, Huberman and so one.

Makes one a bit on his toes. As they not always there to tell the truth. But in for money/ fame ?

The old smoker you refer to, was that the French lady who stopped.
Because her eyes gave up, so lighting up was the problem and aim, not stopping.
Otherwise she would have continued, she said. Got way over 100 ?

And indeed even vaped Weed [not even a cartridge], a herb known to work out mucus from the Lung s.
Gives me a irritated throath/ lung cough. And produces ,like smoke high and low density particles.
Second hand vapor. But the research not really clear or convincing. [no mention of which was vaped and how]

Smoking and drinking in front or in the room/ near kids. Is officialy a crime as of 2024 in NL.
They changed the law, don t see any effects yet in real life so we will see.
Ever see a politician create a solution ? Me never. Freedom, comme sense and integrity over Law.
Anytime.

Imagine our ancestors that had open fires, lots of PAHs.
But ok i get that they want a smoke free generation.
Kids shouldn t smoke, 21 is allready young. But age limit was 12/ or 16, 16 for Beer.
But that s all past now, they buy the cigs illegal i guess and have older kids get the Beer.
Or steal/get it from their parents.

Ostrich Poluitics. In a Cucumber Kingdom.


And smoking, before we 'so called discoverd' America.
Where the Tobaco was discoverd and came from.
We were allready smoking, a lot. But what ?
Hennep obvious as it was needed for boat building.
Lets say it was a very important crop. Probably other things to.

Maybe Golden Rain, as it contains Cytisine.
Which acts like Nicotine, just longer and higher affinity. Its also a stop smoking tool [TABEX].
Or Varenicline the Pharmaceutical answer, that could be patented.

Did they smoked also deliriant s, wouldn t surprise me ? they also put it in Beer.

 

[CavernsoftheMind]

In the end illegalizing seems the most logical last step. But someone more knowledgeable might know.
What the gouvernement is planning, maybe Alcohol is next?

Illegalizing drugs is never the right choice.
Sure, sale should be restricted & controlled, advertising should be banned.

Fuck the health dictatorship though.
It's my choice whether I value having a longer life expectancy over smoking or not.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Illegalizing drugs is never the right choice.
Sure, sale should be restricted & controlled, advertising should be banned.

Fuck the health dictatorship though.
It's my choice whether I value having a longer life expectancy over smoking or not.

But they are obvious not suited to handle thing s like this.
Proved many times over and over.

Politic s suck create problems, overpayed people.
Gaining way more then they deserve, or die when their words are to.
Extreme.

I can grow Cocaine/ Khat/ Opium/ Ephedra/ Psilocybine Mushrooms/ Tobacco.
Grow Grains & Grapes and brew my own Booze.
Though i d rather make 12/ 13 % GingerBeerPlant Booze.

Harvest Amanita Muscaria s wild.
Extract DMT from some plant, crystalize and vape or combine it with Harmala alkaloids. A Tobacco linkage, coincedence.

Now you got Cannabis the one and only stigmatized plant.
Illegal but tolerated opened the gate to big flows of dirty cash.
That was invested, drugs, RCs, real estate/ company s, setting up bussiness lines, bribing politicians. And so one, still Illegal here, Malta and Germany beat us, in EU.

Can i grow illegal Weed ? Shady, where i recide your homeless if they find out.
And have a policerecord ! Not one island further or a big city and Tilburg !

So what bout the excemption certified 0.1 % THC certified legal Hemp.
Forget it this is the bible/ richman island, using your law rent contract rights,
you d wish.