I have used dipping tobacco for 8 months, A.K.A. Grizzly and Skoal. I keep my intake down to about a can every 4-7 days. Recently my parents found out about me doing this, and took away all my cans. It's been 4 days now, and I haven't had headaches, cravings, or any bad withdrawal symptoms. I honestly believe that I could stop at any time if I wanted to. I don't know if it's just me, but it doesn't seem to be too addictive?
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Tobacco - How Addictive is it?
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Hey weeddxm, aka Big Dipper, aka fat lipz, aka crunk in the trunk! tobacco is the most addictive drug in terms of highest percentage of people ending up with an addiction of everyone who's tried it. After only 8months at a can a week, it probably won't be terrible to quit. The more you do it, the harder its going to be to quit.
You can google more specific questions or maybe post here and ill elaborate once I better understand what you're asking.
33% of individuals studied who have used tobacco at least once have had an addiction. If that helps you understand better
You can google more specific questions or maybe post here and ill elaborate once I better understand what you're asking.
33% of individuals studied who have used tobacco at least once have had an addiction. If that helps you understand better
Swimmingdancer
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And to put that in perspective, if that figure is correct it's higher than the percentage of people who try heroin and become addicted.
Tobacco is very mentally addicting. In my experience the withdrawal symptoms aren't that bad (although I have experienced terrible withdrawal symptoms from other drugs, so maybe for someone who has never experienced worse it could feel bad, plus I'm sure we'll all different). It's the insidious mental addiction and the ease of getting tobacco that makes it really hard to quit and stay quit. Of course it's not an all or nothing thing, it usually takes quite a while to get addicted and gets worse over time. And there are also a lot of people who quit and go back to it. Don't think you're invincible.
If you believe you can stop at any time than do so now! Before you do get truly addicted. There is no good reason to keep using it.
Tobacco is very mentally addicting. In my experience the withdrawal symptoms aren't that bad (although I have experienced terrible withdrawal symptoms from other drugs, so maybe for someone who has never experienced worse it could feel bad, plus I'm sure we'll all different). It's the insidious mental addiction and the ease of getting tobacco that makes it really hard to quit and stay quit. Of course it's not an all or nothing thing, it usually takes quite a while to get addicted and gets worse over time. And there are also a lot of people who quit and go back to it. Don't think you're invincible.
If you believe you can stop at any time than do so now! Before you do get truly addicted. There is no good reason to keep using it.
It all depends on the person. My first cigarette was at age 15. I have been smoking on and off for over 7 years now. I am one of those people who can buy a pack, kill it and take a break for a few months then repeat the process. Usually when i smoke i just bum one off a friend and i am good, i am a rare case though.
What works for me is after i buy a pack i say, alright it's time for a break. This shit causes cancer , and gives a shittty 2 minute buzz. That alone allows me to control my usage.
What works for me is after i buy a pack i say, alright it's time for a break. This shit causes cancer , and gives a shittty 2 minute buzz. That alone allows me to control my usage.
Intenselife
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Yeah i can't speak for tobacco dip (i think it's gross), but i've been smoking cigarettes daily for the past few months because of excess stress that has gone on, but every pack of cigarette that ends makes the cravings much stronger to get another pack a lot of time excuses like this will be my last pack. However literally i've gotten to the point where i am done with this last pack and then will try to go longer and longer before i get another pack.
If you aren't having any withdrawals, cravings, and feel that you can quit whenever than you should! And if that's true, than do it every once in awhile since your claiming you have no cravings and can quit whenever. If everyone felt that way a lot of people would quit, because most don't.
If you aren't having any withdrawals, cravings, and feel that you can quit whenever than you should! And if that's true, than do it every once in awhile since your claiming you have no cravings and can quit whenever. If everyone felt that way a lot of people would quit, because most don't.
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Maybe that's why theirs so many nicotine addicts that smoke for years and years with persisting health problems and still don't quit despite of nicotine producing no high or euphoria. But i can now understand the cravings for nicotine after only a few months.
My aunt and her husband just quit smoking after smoking cigarettes for 10 years (half a pack a day 10 cigs) and last time i saw them a few months ago, her husband told me they quit and it has been two months. He said they had been wanting to quit for a loooong time but nicotine/tobacco but moreso (cigarettes) can take awhile to develop the cravings, but once it gets you it just gets harder and harder i couldn't imagine. My aunt has to take chantix (medication to help nicotine cravings) but said sometimes it makes her so depressed so she doesn't take much anymore as i have read it does and can really increase depression. But her husband said other than the beginning first few weeks of severe cravings, he now feels much better than he did when he was smoking.
Another relative told me when he quit smoking it was the hardest thing he did. He said he felt real violent, irritated etc in the beginning but 9 months later he said he feels much better. Soooo yeah
My aunt and her husband just quit smoking after smoking cigarettes for 10 years (half a pack a day 10 cigs) and last time i saw them a few months ago, her husband told me they quit and it has been two months. He said they had been wanting to quit for a loooong time but nicotine/tobacco but moreso (cigarettes) can take awhile to develop the cravings, but once it gets you it just gets harder and harder i couldn't imagine. My aunt has to take chantix (medication to help nicotine cravings) but said sometimes it makes her so depressed so she doesn't take much anymore as i have read it does and can really increase depression. But her husband said other than the beginning first few weeks of severe cravings, he now feels much better than he did when he was smoking.
Another relative told me when he quit smoking it was the hardest thing he did. He said he felt real violent, irritated etc in the beginning but 9 months later he said he feels much better. Soooo yeah
slimvictor
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This.
mrflowers00
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smoking cigs is the most addictive thing i've ever done
That being said, it's possible to quit after years of abuse. My mom smoke from age 14-50 and has been tobacco free for a few months. I'm proud of her, and I hope she doesn't go back. She's been clean for that long before but I guess she got stresses in her life and bought a pack and kinda went downhill from there.
I switched to nicotine replacement after about 4 years, 1/2-1 pk a day of cigarettes. I've been on the gum and I think a non-inhalation route of administration is easier to kick. Like snus, dip, and gum vs cigarettes or ecigs. You can still get cancer from dip and snus though, and the flavor is really part of the habit. I still have 2 months on the gum before I taper off of it, but I can't see me wanting another cig at this point. At worst I'd rather stick to generic gum from eBay the rest of my life because its safe and still cheaper than my tobacco habit.
I switched to nicotine replacement after about 4 years, 1/2-1 pk a day of cigarettes. I've been on the gum and I think a non-inhalation route of administration is easier to kick. Like snus, dip, and gum vs cigarettes or ecigs. You can still get cancer from dip and snus though, and the flavor is really part of the habit. I still have 2 months on the gum before I taper off of it, but I can't see me wanting another cig at this point. At worst I'd rather stick to generic gum from eBay the rest of my life because its safe and still cheaper than my tobacco habit.
tweex
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Check out e-cigs. Not safe, but much safer than tobacco.
Swimmingdancer
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Why do you think e-cigs aren't safe? I mean, technically nothing whatsoever is 100% guaranteed safe and you can overdose on nicotine, but surely they're no worse than drinking coffee. You only have the nicotine and not the smoke and weird/carcinogenic/toxic shit.
weekend addiction
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My gums are pretty rotten. Going to the dentist soon hope its not too bad. Opiates, amphetamines, cannabis, tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, it all takes a toll on your teeth one way or another. I've dipped for a year or so and that's where a lot of the damage has come from. Even with plenty of nicotine gum, and the fact that packing a lip can actually hurt, I still really want too. I'm only 22 there is no reason why I should have fucked up teeth. I'm embarrassed to smile because my teeth are getting slightly yellow. But who wants to be around someone who never smiles? Something that was supposed to taste good and help me relax ended up becoming one big mind fuck.
If you want to try drugs that's fine it's part of growing up. But tobacco is not all fun and games like smoking pot or drinking a beer.
If you want to try drugs that's fine it's part of growing up. But tobacco is not all fun and games like smoking pot or drinking a beer.
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I never really felt much addiction from tobacco.
Smoked lightly for years and recently I've been able to quit without even having to try.
No withdrawals, no irritability, nothing.
Some people though have a hell of a time with nicotine addiction, I'm glad I never did.
If I'm gonna get addicted to a drug it might as well be something I actually get a high off of
Smoked lightly for years and recently I've been able to quit without even having to try.
No withdrawals, no irritability, nothing.
Some people though have a hell of a time with nicotine addiction, I'm glad I never did.
If I'm gonna get addicted to a drug it might as well be something I actually get a high off of
Psychedelic Jay
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Quitting tobacco is easy.
Doing shit to fill in those time gaps preventing boredom is the hard part.
Doing shit to fill in those time gaps preventing boredom is the hard part.
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I'm a nicotine addict. I use an e cig now. Quitting the cigs was easy, and tapering the nicotine level was easy, but putting it down all together is gonna be tough
I find tobacco / nicotine to be minimally physically addictive, but very mentally addictive. I've got past the WDs 3 day period plenty of times with little to no discomfort.
But then the right situation comes up, and you just flat out want a smoke, even though you know in your mind you hate them. It's more of a mind fuck than most drugs IMHO. Instead of being dependent on it to feel well, you're drawn to it because it seems like an easy, temporarily harmless fix. Then you're back to a pack a day.
Currently I vape / use an ecig with good results.
But then the right situation comes up, and you just flat out want a smoke, even though you know in your mind you hate them. It's more of a mind fuck than most drugs IMHO. Instead of being dependent on it to feel well, you're drawn to it because it seems like an easy, temporarily harmless fix. Then you're back to a pack a day.
Currently I vape / use an ecig with good results.
dopemegently
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True. I started at 15, and it's the one thing I've never been able to quit, even though I know they're worse for my health than some of the other stuff I take. E cigs have helped me with this, though I still can't break the habit. (I'm having a bash at growing my own tobbaco this year, save a fortune..)
I agree for the most part. I didn't have any physical withdrawal after quitting, but I did have some slight withdrawals. I've been wanting to have a dip lately, but it's nothing I can't control. I guess I just don't have as much of an addictive personality as others.