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to what extent does one wrong turn in a taper affect things ?

mydrugbuddy

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I mean, for example myself ive tapered down to 30mgah7921 from doses of 200 - 700.. I havent been ablre to sleep propelry fro a week on these low doses. I eventually gave in and took a nice big fat 200mg ah last night. Great sleep was had.

now where do i stand though ?

how far has this knocked my taper back (if atall)

i would expect to feel some cravings as i have done today, but have resisted them.

I am in the middle of a war between various drug related agencies. I dint want to stir things yp due to just being a druggie. But i suspect that Dr that fobbed me off with "youre not addicted" (have you been conducting tests on my body 24/7 whilst ive been withdrawing ? is gonna get some shit. I dunno whether to take a few benzos and laugh my way through the meeting or try and be serious. Thats a lie. Im taking it seriously. Eqiupment that should be in a museum not hospital wards.
 
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Simple answer: it doesn't. Not physically anyway. Is the temptation to "Fuck it! I've already messed it up so why bother - may as well just get twatted instead" stuffs that's the problem I'd say. I actually tend to recommend folk tapering (specifically long, frustratingly drawn-out tapering) to have lil breaks where they stop tapering and stick to a dose ferra while to adjust to it (relentless downdowndown tapers are just too gruelling and unnecessarily harsh imo, ime, ymmv, etc, etc) and even to take a few steps back and raise the dose if necessary.

Important part is to keep yer eyez on da pryze - longhaul journey not a short hop. If you maintain the desire to taper and/or quit then tiny "mistakes" like this are irrelevant. Possibly even beneficial. It's not about punishing yourself it's about helping yourself. As such make it as easy on yourself as necessary. Masochistic tapering regimes are really not useful. Imo, ime, ymmv, etc, etc.

All that's happened here is you've had a good night's sleep so feel freshly energised and ready to get back to the drearydrudgy tapering bizniz. You're doing great - stick with it and don't beat yerself up over nothing <3
 
Thanks S. What would we do without you. If you have any desire whatseover (it would mean quitting drugs) , i would recommend that you become a drugs worker, you'd be one of the best.

i mean, i want to do that and know a fraction of your experience. Although equally you only know a fraction of mine. Why do i always contradict myself from one sentence to the next. no i dont. yes you do.......
 
They don't get drug tested if that's what you mean. I'm talking about a couple of mates who work for Addaction, or whatever they call themselves now, plus the Head of Drug Services in *** *****. They all smoke dope and the ones who work at Addaction are big E/pirate/Ket/MXE etc heads.

But don't let me turn your head. If you're not happy with your drug taking, good luck getting free of it. It's not compulsory.
 
People who work at Addaction in the bigger cities have usually done drugs to some degree and quite a few certainly still do. There are some good people there seriously handicapped by what they can and can't say and do.

MyDrugBuddy - my mates I talk of are my drug buddies. No shit. :)
 
SHM, its all parts of a jigsaw all over the place. I dont necessarily wish to stop taking drugs entirely. I just want to be in control of them.

yeah brimz i wouldnt be surprised. I expect that proffession attracts people whove been it all dont all, maybe cleaned up, then relapsed, who knows.

I think id rather take the advise of several hypethetical (NOT REFERING TO YOU GUYS HERE) wreckheads, than a doctor who has to resort to a ten year old text book and cant afford an update seeing as only earns !150,000 and has to retire at £60.

Thats been my only complaint with my gp though - i know you have a huge scope, but you have special interests, why not atleast keep up to date with your special interests. GRRRRRRRRR.

Im altering my timings of evrything, have my benxo relax, smoke and meal early. Then later on hit a zopi and 30mh ah for sleep. I will be a triffle miffed if it doesnt work. In that othet threard concerning diphermaine that knocked me out for 15 hrs first time, and then never worked again.

The plan here if zopis work is to take just 1 every 2 days or so (its more mentally manageable to know that youll be getting a great kip soon) whilst stabilising, and jumping off the ah. All this has to be done with 14 zopis, i dont really want another addiction to add to my mantlepiece.

Might try and skip a zopi tonight as theres bound to be plenty ah floating around in me.
 
When getting off of booze and more so benzos I made a schedule, not just in my head but on paper (excel in truth). I ticked off each day and if I lapsed a bit one day I would just get back onto the schedule the next. A bad day is just that, there's no need to make it any worse by falling off the wagon completely, with Benzos if it got a bit much I'd not reduce the dose for a bit longer than planned but always tried not to go back up the scale.

I've had mixed results with drug workers but haven't seen many, all were OK but only one stood out and he was the ex user, they aren't a great deal of use to me, I talk a great talk but it's the doing that counts. In general I haven't found many that understand poly drug use, they expect addiction to specific substances, hence I got good support coming off the booze but they knew nothing about stims.
 
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