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To long time RC users, how do you feel while sober?

Visionary_Kpsycho

Visionary_Kpsycho

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Just wondering, since RC's aren’t researched that well, how do you feel when you are sober? Agitated? HPPD? Feeling sick? Have you noticed any long-term, short-term side effects?
 
I feel fine when sober. I've used various "RCs" at varying degrees of frequency... 2006-2007 I was tripping pretty much 3-4 times a week, almost 100% on barely researched chemicals. Nowadays it's much less but still pretty regularly.
 
I've never felt adverse effects from my use of psychedelics, even the diverse array of different "RC"s I've ingested.

I have a friend who swears that 2C-I disrupted his ability to regulate his body temperature, though. However, it should be noted that this problem has never caused him any medically-documented adverse events-- it could be purely perceptual.

I do not recommend the use of un-researched psychedelics, nor do I condone it. I certainly don't regret my own decision to use them, but the risks are very real; caution and prudence are necessary attitudes in this activity.

These compounds are not toys.
 
I never experienced sleep paralysis or brain zaps until I started using drugs--not soley RCs though.

I love sleep paralysis though. Fun in my bed.
 
I have been using research chemicals for two years now. I have used more than a dozen RC's, and mixed some of them with LSD, MDMA, and ketamine.

Overall, I feel great. Psychedelics have provided me with expereinces that have inspired such mystery and amazement and awe within me. Everything is a complex infinite mystery forever trying to get to know itself, and we're all just little tiny helpless molecules of conciousness in the ocean of everything.

I also notice trails on things randomly when I am totally sober. This seems to happen totally randomly, and only to fast moving things that i'm not directly focusing on. It's not very often, just sometimes I'll see a trail here or there. I also notice my floaters a lot more.

I have noticed no depression or anxiety that can't be attributed to the many stresses of life. There is one exception to that however. It was after an LSD-methylone experience. My friend and I did methylone one night, and redosed several times. After two redoses, we decided that 1.5 hits of acid would be fun. WRONG. Intensely shitty weird dysphoric trip with a shitty feeling lasting several weeks, not very much motivation, bad mood, lows seemed extra low, my ups weren't quite so high.

It went away though. I blame the huge methylone dose massively potentiating the LSD, and just generally wreaking havoc with my brains. Not fun. Typical side effects of MDxx abuse though.

I am MUCH MUCH MUCH more weary of drugs like methylone and mephedrone and mdai and 5-iai and all those "feel good mdma replacements" compared to psychedelics. Psychedelics have their own risks, but....just look at mephedrone, that shit is sketchy as fuck.
 
Lol there are some that i stay away from...

The psychedelic PEA and Tryptamine RCs are mostly fine in my book because most of them seem to have a pretty low toxicity profile.

The other RCs that seem like an attempt to mimic mdma kind of worry me, as does the tramadol derivative, and some other ones out there that just seem to be nasty molecules.

I know someone who has purchased and smoked more spice than anyone ever should, something like 6,000 dollars of the stuff.... that is a lot of JWH-018..... He seems relatively normal.
 
I once experienced "flashback" type OEVs that were quite profoud--the ground was quaking and fissuring--the morning after blowing 25mg of 2cb.

I used RCs roughly 15 or 20 times in 2008, have since stopped, and so far no long term effects. I almost always sniffed them.
 
Chemical Wizard: I agree about the cathinones, etc., but MDAI in particular is probably safer than MDMA. It's one of the MDMA alternatives produced by Nichols at Purdue University to avoid toxicity issues.
 
Only chemical of the RC class that makes me wary in retrospect is 2C-I. Something about even the thought of it makes my brain fall out.
 
I've used various rc tryptamines and peas for a couple of years, about 3 or 4 times a month. I feel fine when I'm sober. I just wanted to post in here because I saw two different people mention 2c-i. After tripping on it quite a bit in a short period of time, I noticed extreme lethargy that would persist a long time after a trip (many days). Anyone else ever get anything weird with 2c-i? Why are you wary of it in retrospect willow11?
 
i have slight hppd - i see movement in my periphery vision when there is nothing there.

and i also have a suspicion that 2ce has done some damage to my GI tract/intestines/colon. it could be in my head or the problem could have been pre-existing
 
porkstock said:
i have slight hppd - i see movement in my periphery vision when there is nothing there.

and i also have a suspicion that 2ce has done some damage to my GI tract/intestines/colon. it could be in my head or the problem could have been pre-existing
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Ive been suffering from GI tract problems since 2c-e too ...

I definitely have a mild case of HPPD. I see patterns in everything I look at when sober, things begin to move around. I'll start seeing rainbow/prism like tubes moving through objects. My mental state feels as if im permanently on a blotter or two of LSD. My creativity has reached an all time peak but my emotions sometimes get the best of me. It's all a balancing act that I feel like I'm beginning to get a hold of.

Ive used/abused RC's and traditional psychedelics for many years. I don't regret anything I've taken , it's brought me to the place I am now. I'm in one of the happiest state's that Ive ever been and the future only looks brighter. The grass hasn't smelled any greener and I surely appreciate these smiling tree's now, yes sir.
 
I'm almost quite certain a high dose of 2C-E, which was insufflated(my friends and I were well aware of the risks, I was content with trying it) has a huge deal to do with my slight HPPD. I have the regular symptoms of HPPD, but I also get random flashes of light in my eyes, the same effect I sometimes experience on 2C-E.

I have closed my 2C-E book for now, it's a chemical I have a great amount of respect for.

As someone stated above, these are not toys, and I do not recommend snorting any chemicals, or dosing abnormaly large amounts.

PiHKAL is a great references for 2C-x information.
 
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