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thatdreamer123

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I recently got 500mg of very high quality DMT.

I have done pretty large amount of research on DMT and have picked up knowledge about it for years.

When I received, my first thought was to make sure that I am completely ready for the experience before I decide to try it.

I read often that if you even need to ask yourself whether or not you are ready, you are not. Which sort of goes against my cautious nature as I am always asking myself "am I ready?" for many experiences, and I am by no means the most confident or sure of myself all the time.

While I also read a lot of people saying, no matter what you do, you're not going to be prepared by any means by what you're about to experience with DMT, and that's the beauty and truth of it.

Slowly I have begun procuring what I need to smoke it to give myself time to really get used t the idea of smoking it. The other day I went into a head shop and purchased an "oil burner", and it feels like that was the commitment. That I've gone so far as to buy the pipe and the DMT, that there is no turning back now and I don't want to turn back.

I feel like DMT has a gift for me, and it has a gift for everyone.

I do have my concerns though, as my extreme curiosity has gotten the better of me on a few occasions (namely 2 awful mushrooms trips a couple years ago), and through all my readiness I can't help but think in the back of my head that the DMT would regard my curiosity as childish and immature, and therefore punish me. That is the only recognizable factor I could see as going wrong, as that same concept is what turned my mushrooms trips into hell, thoughts like "oh boy, you've done it now, you're only a kid, what were you thinking", but those thoughts were back when I was only 15. I am 18 now, and heading to college next year.

Since those 2 terrible trips I have had 1 more mushroom trip about 6 months ago that overall went great outside of one or two difficult sections (which I believe is all part of the mushroom experience and have accepted that).

I also had an LSD trip 1.5 years ago that was 100% great without a single difficulty.

I have experience over the 3 years since I very first decided to begin experimenting with:
salvia (3 times), ketamine (3 times), mdma (~10 times), nbome (1 time), cocaine (few dozen times), methylone (once), prescription stims (dozen times) and countless times with alcohol, marijuana, and weak prescription opiates. and probably more I can't think of right now. Although never has my use ever become a problem or frequent in any sort of negative way.

I'm not trying to turn this into a "what should I take", I just figured it would be good to provide those giving me advice with a brief drug history.

But my main question here is, would you suggest smoking a light dose (10-20mg according to erowid) to get an idea of what i'm getting myself into, or is it advisable to really just take the plunge with a normal/breakthrough dose (30-60 mg??) as doing a small amount first might ruin the real experience of it?

I've also heard that, for someone who has never used an "oil burner" (me) will have a very hard time smoking DMT out of it (that one would burn/destroy the DMT and/or burn their lips) and that I should try the sandwich method instead, can any vouch for that?

Thanks a bunch! Mods, if this violates any rules it'd be awesome if you'd give me a chance to edit this!! I spent a lot of time thinking about this.
 
Just go for it it doesn't last very long it just feels like it does so what's the worse that can happen right. I spent 15 months in IRAQ and seen some pretty messed up stuff yet even with all those bad thoughts in my head DMT always does right my me and never ceases to amaze me.
 
In short, the first two awful trips were extreme cases of wrong place at the wrong time (first time locked in my pitch black bedroom with "friend" who i hadnt seen in 7 years with my parents the floor above. second time on a city bus and around downtown with people everywhere) in combination with being too young to handle it (15 years old is really young in hindsight).

If you were referring to my most recent trip, one of the people i was tripping with, a good friend, but had been telling a lot of white lies lately and i felt i couldnt trust him, but it only lasted a short time. and was not even
comparable to the trips to hell i took when I was 15.
 
go for it dude, you've clearly thought about this a lot and you're considering it in a very sensible and informed manner - personally I would try vaping the DMT if you could possibly get access to one, it really is the best way to go, the sandwich method is good but it's 50/50 whether you'll get it to work really, my success rate with vaping has been consistent
 
I had a "difficult" trip on DMT then other day.. was on 30mg of 2cb as well.. It was over as quick as it started.. to be honest i was so far gone i couldn't feel fear or anything.. as i was coming out of it i was just really confused.. but 10 minutes later i was right as rain..
 
build yourself a proper smoking device. oil burner is not perfect. "the machine" (or any variation of steel mesh and glassware) is.
start with 5mg, then 10, 15. then you'll see you'll get into serious territory. anything above 20-25mg requires preparation.
dmt is warm and loving. if you respect it, it respects you. always smile and go with the flow. you get what you give. it's as simple as that. :)
 
Cut the bottom off of a 2 litre plastic bottle.. Wrap foil around the bottom to cover the hole (1 layer thick).. put DMT on foil.. Enjoy..

(Seriously I tried lots of different methods and this one works first time everytime)
 
I'd say go for it man. Your not nessacrily garanteed a breakthrough even if you do load enough. The doubts and all negative feelings quickly demish the more pulls you take. I find that you have to little time to have bad experience due to the rapid fast onset. I've shown 7-8 friends the beauty of DMT, none with any prior psychedelic experience, and they've all been in awe to the experience. Safe travels to you in which ever route you decide to take; you will not be dissapointed I guarantee that.

Also I've tripped on deems around 35+ times always used the sandwich method in a regular glass peace. I've had a few "uncomfortable" experiences but never a bad one. I would say get in a quiet environment and just slow your thoughts and calm your mind for at least 15 minutes beforehand then load up the cannon and blast into oblivion:)
 
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As a general rule, start low. That goes double if you are not entirely sure of the identity of your drug but even if you are - as it appears in this example - it is still smart to 'test the water'.
Sure, some people find that lower doses come with their own particular issues and that at lower doses you get a chance to feel fear or confusion while at higher doses you can be too overwhelmed and stunned for such a reaction. While there may be a basis of truth to that, there are techniques to help you prepare yourself to some extent for the experience. IMO/IME that preparation means meditating on your intentions and letting casual and irrelevant every-day ideas about mundane events in your life flow away... and allowing yourself to look in a virtual/mental mirror.
It is quite normal for people to be distracted by things most of the time, when sober this is not a problem but when you launch on DMT very quickly distracting every-day ideas can start racing and tangling and you can easily lose track of everything. It can produce rather chaotic visions but also cause you to worry about losing your mind. If you take at least 30-60 minutes to put your thoughts in order and see how you are feeling in your core, in my experience that changes the experience and makes it more balanced.

The point is, at doses that are moderated you have a better chance of practicing that... and learning to avoid the confusion in the first place should allow you to get qualitatively better experiences on higher doses as well. I think it is analogous to or could be described as learning how to meditate and in meditation going on mental and spiritual exploration via uninhibited and catalyzed imagination...
 
Hm, thank you for all the suggestions! I have taken it all to heart.

But overall I think Solipsis' advice is the most logical and sensible here. The comfort of starting low seem to outweigh the benefits of starting high. I think this is the most reasonable option for me.

How does layering 10mg between two small amounts of marijuana in a bong (what about a small pipe?) sound?
 
imo THC clouds the effects of DMT. leave it unadulterated.
and build a machine. it's simply the best. and easy. with any other method you'll probably always gonna loose/burn some material.
10mg in a machine is vaped within 2-3 seconds...
 
imo THC clouds the effects of DMT. leave it unadulterated.
and build a machine. it's simply the best. and easy. with any other method you'll probably always gonna loose/burn some material.
10mg in a machine is vaped within 2-3 seconds...

Yea I agree weed clouds it for me to which doesn't help my ability to remember the exerience considering I usually can't anyways. Grab some orageno basil parsley tobacco.. pretty much any herb can be used
 
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