Heroin to all Heroin smokers out there wanting to quit!

[The Doc.]

HeY There I just started on bluelight and already can tell we have a great community here everybody's been really nice and willing to lend their support.

I am addicted to heroin I have been for over 5 years since I'm 21 the drug life is all I know I can hardly remember what I was like before I needed a drug to keep normal everyday. Anyways I have been on buphernorphine for a year now to get my life normalised which has worked for the most part besides a few heroin binges during some low points in my life (lets just say 2014 hasn't been good to me) Now when I did heroin daily I liked to shoot it up only once in a while i don't have good veins they are all hidden and not visible so I gotta go digging around to find one usually except for a few big suckers that pop out on my feet after a bath. What I've always perfered to do is smoke it off tinfoil (chasing the dragon) cause I find it fun it relaxes me and keeps my hands busy while watching TV or whatever I like taking puff after puff and holding it in. I prefer subutex via injection since you can't smoke those pills but heroin I don't know why I've always liked doing it on foil.

Now most addicts will find they get addicted to the whole ritual of doing the drugs not just the drug of choice for instance lots of people get addicted to the needle itself and the steps to break the solid drugs down to a liquid to be injected. If you smoke heroin then you know too that you can get addicted to preparing the foil, seeing the dope turn to a puddle when heated up and chasing the smoke around the foil even when you are on suboxone or methadone some times you just get an urge to smoke some dragons off foil especially at the beginning of treatment the urge can be overwhelming.

I've found a secret I just have to share with my fellow addicts who chase the dragon and are quitting opiates completly or starting a suboxone program to normalise their lives. Now you all have probably heard of the latest cannabis trend of "ear wax weed" also known as "budder" for those of you who don't its THC extracted from marijuana plants using butane what you are left with is brown chunks that looks like heroin but feels like wax. This stuff is meant to be vaporised so I put it on aluminium foil and smoked it and was shocked at how it looked and smoked EXACTLY like heroin did it puddled up into a brown puddle and slid back and forth along the foil with ease until it dissolved completely and disappeared leaving no impurities behind and it gets you really stoned and takes care of the urge to chase the dragon.

I just had to share this with people I used to smoke a joint to curb cravings but its not the same smoke as chasing the dragon now I can use this trick when I want to smoke some H.
I had a buddy who was asking me if heroin would show on his drug test at the suboxone clinic cause he'd been smoking h while on suboxone even tho it blocked the h completely he did it cause he was addicted to chasing the dragon itself and was anxious not smoking he said I know it sounds dumb but it helps man. Hahaha i laughed when I heard from that of course smoking h is gonna curb your cravings and of course I'll show on a drug test even if your receptors are blocked its still going into your body. This wax weed would of come in handy for this guy the poor bastard I thought just can't stop even with suboxone cause of that dam dragon.

 

[Soysmoke]

I'm totally with you there man. i love the ACT of smoking meth. and find myself getting more relaxed/comfort from going through the steps of spinning a puddle then i do getting really high really fast. i do little bowls all day just to keep smoking. i dropped and broke my meth pipe today and was WWAAYYY more upset with myself then when i spill some powder on the floor or in my bed.

 

[jeeves]

Weird that you made this post. I was smoking and binging out on H for a few months and had to quit due to my job, I started smoking wax and it really satisfies the ritual. Cannabis is great for opiate withdrawals IMO too.

 

[The Doc.]

I'm totally with you there man. i love the ACT of smoking meth. and find myself getting more relaxed/comfort from going through the steps of spinning a puddle then i do getting really high really fast. i do little bowls all day just to keep smoking. i dropped and broke my meth pipe today and was WWAAYYY more upset with myself then when i spill some powder on the floor or in my bed.

Yes Meth is the same idea people get addicted to blowing out massive clouds of Meth vapor and find themselves wanting to do that when sober really bad. I have a friend that uses those new tobacco products that vaporise liquid nicotine and you puff it and change the nicotine cartridge when it runs out. (I think there called electronic cigarettes) he says this too helps the urge to smoke Meth.
I gotta say people are so much nicer on here than other drug forums I was on another one before blue light and it was all a bunch of punks who think they know everything cause they can copy and paste Wikipedia then come on only to diss people and put them down.

 

[ksralyv2mch]

I believe tho at first it may be a relief but over time your brain might start whispering in the back of your mind like "man if only this was the real thing.... (baby..)" and it seems that it could actually be a "trigger" (I hate that word) but if it works for you go for it and if you don't think it could lead back (NOT SAYING MJ IS A GATE WAY DRUG THAT IS COMPLETE GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA)

just always be careful!!

wax is concentrated marijuana, some wax is as strong as ONE hit = 1/2 joint of the weed it was extracted from. Now that being said, it may look like a tiny thing but smoking this on a regular occasion puts your THC levels for drug testing THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!!! ergo if you need to pass a piss test, ain't NO "quick detox" or "dilution" going to work!

The metabolite of marijuana (THC-COOH) has a long half-life and can be detected in urine for more than 7 days after a single use. The presence of THC-COOH in urine >100 ng/mL indicates relatively recent use, probably within the past 7 days. Levels >500 ng/mL suggest chronic and recent use.

My friend who smokes only wax went for a test and they said his THC levels were close to 9000 ng/ML

Can't dilute that shit.

 

[maxalfie]

Now most addicts will find they get
addicted to the whole ritual of doing
the drugs not just the drug of choice

Totally agree with you, the ritual of both smoking or injecting heroin can be addictive in themselves.
When I was heavily into injecting heroin there were times when I had no cash to score with & on occasions I resorted to cooking up plain water with no heroin and just injecting the water. Obviously I got no high from it as it was just water but I still had the urge to go through the whole ritual of cooking up and injecting myself.
A hard habit to break once you have it.

 

[The Doc.]

Totally agree with you, the ritual of both smoking or injecting heroin can be addictive in themselves.
When I was heavily into injecting heroin there were times when I had no cash to score with & on occasions I resorted to cooking up plain water with no heroin and just injecting the water. Obviously I got no high from it as it was just water but I still had the urge to go through the whole ritual of cooking up and injecting myself.
A hard habit to break once you have it.

Yep I have been there done that I used to go go through my rigs and draw water up into them and shoot that to get any left over residue and it makes your brain feel better like you just did a shot of dope even the needle poking the skin feels good I've read that it actually releases your body's natural painkillers when you prick the skin and most addicts don't even realise its happening.

 

[The Doc.]

QUOTE=ksralyv2mch;1223elieve tho at first it may be a relief but over time your brain might start whispering in the back of your mind like "man if only this was the real thing.... (baby..)" and it seems that it could actually be a "trigger" (I hate that word) but if it works for you go for it and if you don't think it could lead back (NOT SAYING MJ IS A GATE WAY DRUG THAT IS COMPLETE GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA)

just always be careful!!

wax is concentrated marijuana, some wax is as strong as ONE hit = 1/2 joint of the weed it was extracted from. Now that being said, it may look like a tiny thing but smoking this on a regular occasion puts your THC levels for drug testing THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!!! ergo if you need to pass a piss test, ain't NO "quick detox" or "dilution" going to work!

The metabolite of marijuana (THC-COOH) has a long half-life and can be detected in urine for more than 7 days after a single use. The presence of THC-COOH in urine >100 ng/mL indicates relatively recent use, probably within the past 7 days. Levels >500 ng/mL suggest chronic and recent use.

My friend who smokes only wax went for a test and they said his THC levels were close to 9000 ng/ML

Can't dilute that shit.[/QUOTE]
Yes I hinr ya im lucky my suboxone doctor at the methadone clinic I go to let's me smoke pot cause its not a hard drug and I need less suboxone everyday when I smoke pot and pot has way less side effects I also have not much problem stopping weed when I run out its like okay well I won't get high today not like heroin where I'm running around in a panic looking for a ATM to hook my truck up to and rip it out of a store and drag it home lol. Yes wax is very strong gets me ripped but for now I don't wanna do heroin after smoking wax so its working for me I find it better then heroin in fact I keep thinking why did I spend so much dam money on dope over the years just to feel normal when taking a suboxone even by mouth and smoking some wax I feel better then I did on heroin cause after a while all your doing smoking h is keeping withdrawal away.