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Stimulants Tips to avoid a depraved wanking session and be productive on stims?

Harambulus

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Of course we all enjoy those wanking sessions in the moment but I recall nearly always regretting having wasted hour upon hour which could have been put to much better use. Almost invariably when I've taken stims in the past I find as it kicks in more and more is the more 'irresistable' jerking off seems. Then I 'take a little look at porn' 20 mins-30 mins, one hour, sweat building up now, just 10 more mins, just another ten then really I'll stop and do something else' and 4+ hours have passed.

I've found this thought cycle keeps me gripped until finally the drug begins to wear off and I feel really stupid and/or I cum in a heap of sweat with my dick in my hand and often chafe marks on my dick which sting for days after while they heal.

I always have thought to myself how much more productive I could be taking stims but it has as many times as I can recall ended up in the above squandering of my time.

I was wondering what preventative steps could be taken to avoid such a scenario in future. Sure I would maybe welcome cranking one or ten out when Im coming down but not as the main show, I wanna try actually getting productive stuff done while stimming. I probably crank between 3 and 5 times a day normally without any drugs anyhow so I wouldnt feel bad at that it's just the duration spent on such things. In short I'd like to be able to do just the same activities I would do in my average day (without getting sidetracked with frivolous pursuits) but just enjoy them more on stims.

Any tips?

A couple of things I've thought of.

I planned on taking a lower dose than I have in the past, and Im not the type who has problems with redosing if I don't want to, so this alone will likely help me keep a semblance of reason. My higher doses in the past were mainly due to ignorance and not knowing when the drugs have taken full effects and being impatient. Many follies in this department have now tempered such foolhardy behavior.

Second is I will have benzos in. I've read ppl say what a great combo stims (amps which is what will be in question here) and benzos are so Im debating taking a small bit of etiz, maybe .5mg if I feel the horniness rising to a distracting level.

Also I will try actually resolving to doing something productive. In the past I tried a bit but didnt really try and discipline myself not to. Maybe itll get easier like habit. Also another easy way would be to just leave my house lol as the opportunity to do so would greatly decrease then.
 
thats easy, have a fap in advance, or 2, or 3. Im not sure etizolam is going to help much with the hornies, but for calming a few of the other effects, 0.5 mg or possibly 1mg if you dont feel 0.5mg is a good amount. Hold the pills or powder under your tongue (tastes suprsiingly good!) and wait for it to dissolve to mush, anything that dosent dissapear crunch up and swallow after 10 minutes.
 
^This.

For some people, benzos are going to reduce sex drive...but for others they'll have the opposite effects. Etizolam sort of has its own personality as well. YMMV.
 
I have always had this problem with amphetamines. It only happens to me when I'm taking higher doses. I find taking benzo's is the most practical means of killing your sex drive while on amphetamines. I've found clonazepam to be the most effective, but I'm sure all benzo's work in similar but different ways. Rubbing one or two out before you get high isn't really gonna do much for you... I've tried it. Once that speed kicks in I just go nuts. I've mad some seriously disgraceful decisions in regard to my choice of sexual partners. I guess just be happy you're just masturbating and not waking up with a wicked amphetamine hangover, laying next to some beat 200 pounder.
 
yuck, lol, ye I recall a couple of times with mephedrone where I was seriously considering going to a whorehouse as I have at least two just on the next block form me. For me I instead ended up making up with a girl Id broken up with after not speaking for several months then my heart sinking as soon as I began to come down thinking Id have alot of cleaning up to do form that. Dont think Id make such a mistake again tho. So ye I guess in that sense I guess I am appreciative it is just jerking off :D though I want to 'refine' my discipline some more still.

The jerking before getting high is a pretty naive advice imo too :D. I read once some exercise guy saying how taking meth makes your sexual desire like an 'unquenchable thirst' which I thought put it well. Im reading chapter 11 on think and grow rich which I just found out deals with this stuff precisely under the term 'sexual transmutation' (I find his angle more palatable than some esoteric kama sutra waffle). Giving me some food for thought.

I think part of it is being able to acknowledge in your mind that its just an increase in energy which could be channeled however you please and also being able to choose what you spend it on. I think Ill make it a personal challenge to do so and be more resolute and structured about it. Maybe work X amount of time and have a tug after so long for X amount of time and no more- at least keeping better tabs on it.

Ye

Its encouraging to hear it only happens with higher doses for you as since I mentioned I planned on lower ones anyhow.

I was thinking about it recently how its similar to alcohol in that respect in that most ppl will be pretty in control who are familiar with drink but if you take way too much still your gonna act out of character.

I want to keep my dosages to a level which simply adds spice to my everyday goings on.

The benzoes will be there as a 'safety parachute'- whether they will curb my horniness or not remains to be seen; I think there's a good chance they would. Think I'll be ok without them tho.
 
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Don't look at porn.
Set a time limit if you decide you want to want (look at the clock see that is is A:XX, fap till A:15).
Masturbate before dosing.
 
The etizolam will probably help you to know when to stop beating around the bush, whereas without it, you will just go on until the end of time. what i usually do is i make music, especially on a loud, overdriven guitar. It's like the notes come to my fingers before my brain. Also, reading, art, writing, just doing anything mentally stimulating and/or creative. although if you have someone to do it with, sex sessions on meth are something else...
 
You're on amphetamines!
Your brain should be working logically enough to not wank away the clock!

Just take in mind that wanking reduces dopamine sensitivity and amphetamines reduce the amount of available dopamine receptors as well as down regulate them. Thus, wanking on amphetamines is almost a for-sure recipe for depression IMO.

Don't take benzos with amphetamines. It can exacerbate panic disorder and make it so that you need a GABA-ergic in order to take amphetamines without having anxiety issues.

Take a break from masturbating (try 2-3 weeks) to the point where you no longer have an urge to do it anymore and then I bet you you'll have a success.
 
The abstinence route has been a nogo for me in the past. I would get despairing depression when I didnt wank.

No cause to go overboard here :D.

The not looking at porn is a bit of a toughy since I work from home on my computer and so porn is just a cpl of clicks away. Not a biggy though I jsut have to be more mentally disciplined at the outset I think. While I am expermienting with this though as I said I think its gonna be good to go out of the house to experience what its like to be high without wanking it away as being out in public provides its own inbuilt safeguards against it. In the past I really havent had any sort of plan either before getting high so this alone gives me more ammunition for my next experiments.

Tbh I didnt even try ding anyhting productive or even recreational. Not even listening to music. I got into the habit sometime ago of just taking a dose and just sitting in an empty room alone waiting for the drugs to take effect, so no wonder my hand crept down my pants sooner or later :D. I also play an instrument so I am eager to have a bash at that while stimming.

Ye I think I agree regarding the etiz letting you know when to stop because I remmebr last time I was crawling around my hallway with a cockring on thinking of all sorts of scenarios trying my best to hold that one ideal fantasy in mind for it only so quickly to disappear and I lose my flow and I have to begin the mental gymnastics anew.

After a few hours of the same fare a glint of reason shot into my head saying 'better take an etiz as this is leading nowhere' and only a few mins after taking it I came back to my better senses and called it a night and went to sleep. So it def worked to 'pull the reigns in' on that occasion.
 
Use water based lubricant to avoid chaffing, and follow the other advice regarding getting yourself off prior to dosing.

In my experience, adding benzodiazepines lead to even more sexually depraved acts, because you just don't care.
 
Yeah, put yourself in a situation where you will be less likely to jerk off, or at least less likely to spend all day doing so. If you can give yourself something to focus on that helps a lot.

Apparently this is common problem though, because I used to work reception in a brothel and the girls would be reluctant to see the guys who would come in on stims (or coke), because the guy would be super-horny, take forever, and have difficulty reaching orgasm. One guy would come in and would see like 7 girls in a row for an hour each, and only leave when he'd run out of money.

If you can do something other than sit around bored in front of your computer with easy access to porn should help. Get outside or work on a specific project. And I think masturbating beforehand should help too, at least you should feel a bit less horny for a while after you do it. Maybe take smaller doses as well.

And as tricomb mentioned, water-based lubricant is an excellent idea of you are going to be jerking off a lot.
 
Oh, try switching hands too?

Cleaning is another tweaker task that really helps to pass the time, so is working, yard work, odd jobs, whatever, make that holy dollar that is so important in our capitalist society, just don't drive under the influence.
 
I find that when i'm on benzos combined with speed, I just get bored of it, what i do on that combo is smoke about half a cigarette and then obliviously let it burn to the butt because i forgot that it was there. I'm always just too lazy to get into sexually depraved acts, especially with d-methamp and alprazolam/clonazepam (a favorite combo)
 
I would suggest a few things. Remind yourself of the consequences that will arise before you become to aroused to use logic over instinct. So, if you do not want to engage in a very long masturbation session, I wouldn't even begin to think about any masturbation, because once you are you won't care. When you do feel the urge to masturbate, do something else which is also rewarding in the way stimulants tend to encourage. As mentioned above, cleaning, working, organzing, doing art etc. are all good substitute activities. Engage in something other than the sexual act, and that something else should be enough to preoccupy yourself and keep you from masturbation, because that is what stims can be all about - focus and concentration free of distraction.
 
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