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Tips for writer's block/lack of inspiration?

They are inseparable, and my comments pertained directly to what I quoted...

MaxPower said:
read.

CoffeeDrinker said:
"If you write more than you read, and if you talk more than you listen, you will always be an amateur."

The thread might be specifically about curing writer's block. But, if it is, it is also about becoming a better writer; in this case, the word "read" had already been recontextualized into the broader discussion (by CoffeeDrinker) before I responded to it.

I don't disagree with the word "read" in the context of a discussion about writer's block. It is important, however, to point out that writing is FAR more important than reading. When you're stuck (experiencing writer's block), you can find inspiration (break the curse) by observing other people's words. But, you shouldn't lose track of what you're doing. Which is writing, not reading. That's all I'm saying.

And, the same applies to everything. The act of film-making - of hands-on practice - is much more beneficial than sitting down and watching a bunch of films. There are lots of lousy writers in the world who have read a lot of books and lousy film-makers who've seen a lot of films.

One of the major problems with overloading yourself with influence is cryptomnesia. It is a very real thing, and a serious concern for artists of all mediums. Just ask George Harrison.

Threads should be allowed to naturally veer off on related tangents. If I start talking about the sexual practices of Siberian railway operators or vaginal reconstructive surgery, then let me know.

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Sorry went off on a tangent.

I'm terrible with that shit, I meant just to make the point that since I've only started I haven't experienced writers block, and I thought this correlated with the way my mind works and literally creates character outlines, plot, scenes, environment, and how I can reconnect to it.

Didn't mean to sidetrack, I'm still going to respond to foreverafter's quote though. Sorry if that's a minor inconvenience =D

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Reading is by no means bad. It is great that you've read that much. This might sound weird, but it sounds like you've read "enough" for the time being. You have been stockpiling literature in your brain for decades by the sound of it. I would recommend you stop reading, for a while, and start writing an absolute fuck ton of words. Like spend a month or two writing for hours, every day. The fact that you don't watch television is hugely beneficial to your potential as a writer. Television is, for the most part, utter shit. People waste so much time on television and Facebook. I haven't had a television, with an aerial, for over five years. I watch a few select shows that I download. No commercials. No free-to-air brain rot. At the moment, I'm taking a 6 month break from film and television. Focusing entirely on reading, writing and University. Literature is such a competitive industry that - in order to be published - you need to make major sacrifices. I've got to stop taking drugs, too.

Thanks for the encouragement, means a great deal.

To me, psychedelics are very helpful if you've done them, learned from them and what perspective they allow you to embrace the world with, and taken a break. As Allan Watts once said "Once you get the answer, hang up the phone." They're not really conducive to writing and my trip reports are always jangled on account of this, so I've reverted to a tape recorder (a good way to catch ideas on the fly or interview people, they have free apps on the phone now - sticking with the writers block subject. Play back your taperecorder and start punching those keys).

Drugs improve my ability to write, and increase my versatility as a writer, but they don't - generally - improve my ability to actually produce finished and polished bodies of work. Amphetamines and opiates are exceptions to the rule, somewhat. I used to be convinced that psychedelics gave me special artistic "abilities". And maybe they do. I come up with amazing ideas when I'm tripping, and I can write in different styles, etc. Mushrooms and marijuana, in particular, allow me to depart from my normal way of thinking. The problem is, I'm not focused enough to produce publishable work or lengthy pieces of writing - like a novel or a feature length screenplay. Amphetamines make me too focused. I don't have room to breathe, creatively. I've tried to write on every drug. Tried to find a shortcut, so I can cheat my way past all the hard work and fast-track my career.

So far everything I've written has been mostly sober, but a lot of what I've written in the past has been whilst ripped to the tits. I agree, they certainly can be a deterrent. I wrote that critique of your story last night sober.

I also finished the rough draft of my short story, sober. Interestingly enough the concept came from a deep methoxetamine philosophically crazed experience that happened not all that long ago.

The outline of my novel I wrote whilst in horrid benzo withdrawal, taking grams of neurontin and after 5 quick drinks I just sat down and spilled my guts. On this occasion, the booze and everything else was the catalyst allowing me to drop all anxiety and just do the damned thing. I think it's different for everyone, and it's hard to generalize because their will always be that one exception to the rule. Poe, for one.


You mentioned Hunter S Thompson, and a number of other writer's who used drugs excessively throughout their careers. I used to love Hunter and Philip K Dick and William Burroughs. I still do, but - once upon a time - I thought they were the best writers out there. These days, I don't think they are. I recognize how their work has suffered from drug use. Hunter could have been a greater writer than he was, if he gave up the drugs. I truly believe that. A lot of highly drug-influenced writers have a chaotic quality to their novels. Even when they're not writing about drugs, you can feel the presence of the drugs in their words. Philip K Dick is a great example of this. Most of his novels are incomplete. I used to think that he didn't care about polishing his work, now I'm starting to think that the element he is missing stems from his sober mind.

Sometimes I like to write stories from different angles. I come at them from the psychedelic angle, and the amphetamine angle, and the opiate angle, and the dissociative angle. The "angle" I have most neglected is the most important one. The sober angle. No altered state of consciousness. Just me.

I agree about Hunter, he could have been a hell of a lot better in his later years, but he didn't want it. I respect him for doing what he wanted to do and getting away with it. "If you're going to be crazy, you'd better get paid for it or else you're going to be locked up." His main problem was booze though hands down. Just like Hemingway, all drunks. Do you distinguish between alcohol and other drugs? PM the answer as not to clutter the thread any more I feel bad enough already with these abhorring tangents I go on.

Burroughs however didn't take drugs in his later years only methadone which I doubt had any affect at all. Again, you're more of an avid critic I feel, but some of Burroughs best stuff came during the 80's when he was reading his stuff at punk rock clubs. "The place of dead roads" and it's prequel, "cities of the red night" are so imaginative and what fun to hear him read them aloud! I highly suggest downloading "The best of William Burroughs" audio collection.

I take writing very seriously, and I've improved a lot over the past five - or so - years. Nothing I have contributed to this site is an indication of where I am as a writer, because I tend to save the work that I deem to have serious potential for fear of exposing myself via bluelight as a drug user. I believe I am capable of producing a publishable novel now. In order to do so, however, I need to get sober. I have sacrificed everything else in my life except for drugs. I keep delaying it. It feels like I'm faced with a choice. I can either: continue to get high, or get published. It's a difficult decision. A couple of years ago, I would have insisted that I would never stop the drugs for a prolonged period of time. But, things change.

I can tell and I'm very fortunate to find myself involved in this forum with you around, along with everyone else I've been reading about and conversing with.

I've come to the conclusion that I simply can't do anything else. I HAVE to write, and I've waited long enough. I start college majoring in English for the first time this fall. I'm deadly serious. Been writing all day.

I'll reluctantly settle for a job in journalism in order to eat, should it come to that, but I'm not going to write rubbish. It's not in me. I have friends who are tattoo artists that share the same principle, offer them 700 dollars and if they know its going to look like shit on you, they won't do it. It's a mutual sentiment, bad for the artist, bad for the recipient of said tattoo. Same with writing. Bryon Gyson said that writing is 50 years behind painting, which could be true. I've spent enough time in various tattoo shops to come to know some really skilled paintings/tattoos etc. They say it all without words. I'm a ball of irony because I can't ever seem to shut my word hole, yet know that nothing can truly be accurately portrayed through words. I digress, again.
 
You don't need to apologize for going off on a related tangent. Max is just on his rags.

To answer your question, I don't differentiate between drugs and alcohol, no. Alcohol is a drug. The only thing separating it from narcotics is legality. And whether or not something is legal has no impact on this conversation.

You can use drugs to break writer's block, just like you can use drugs to inspire you. Problem is they take you in a particular direction. Drugs are limited to that direction. Whereas sobriety is not limited to anything. Each drug is a subset of the whole of you. Although sometimes "specializing" is valuable, it is better not to limit yourself. As I said, you can feel the presence of drugs in Hunter's writing even when he's not writing about drugs. This makes all his writing have this "samey" quality.

When I write on psychedelics, it reads like I've written it on psychedelics. It has a psychedelic feel. The tone is defined somewhat by the drug. Whereas when I write sober, the tone is yet to be defined. It is (potentially) all of me; not a (insert drug here) subset of me.
 
^When you suggested moving the discussion to PM, we were on topic more or less. Then you went on a massive tangent and started posting links to your trip reports and asking completely off topic questions. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
 
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I don't disagree with the word "read" in the context of a discussion about writer's block. It is important, however, to point out that writing is FAR more important than reading. When you're stuck (experiencing writer's block), you can find inspiration (break the curse) by observing other people's words. But, you shouldn't lose track of what you're doing. Which is writing, not reading. That's all I'm saying.

I really have no idea why you'd say something like writing is "FAR" more important than reading when the two are functionally linked in a fundamental way like two sides of a coin. Expectation, and self-editing, before you even get words on a page can be the death of many a creative hour, but taking notes while reading can easily spark up the writing flow.

They are inseparable...

Indeed
 
It is far more important because it is impossible to be a good writer if you don't write but it is not impossible to be a good writer if you don't read. I know lots of people who read a shitload, who can't write to save their lives. And nobody I can say the opposite for. Perhaps I shouldn't have capitalized the word far. Otherwise my point stands.

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Writing is more important than reading; most aspiring writers don't write enough. Everybody says "read"; I say "write". They're not like two sides of a coin, really. Reading your own work is like the flip-side to writing, I guess. But reading other people's work isn't. There are a lot of readers who don't write at all; and a lot of people who watch television, that aren't involved in the production of programming; there are even people who eat ham, who don't slaughter pigs.
 
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I agree, you have to write. Naturally a percentage of what you write won't be up to your own standards upon initially reviewing it - but keep it, and some day down the track you might review it again and find that it sparks a really good idea.

I find that my best work has come in a "rush" for me thus far, but on the same token I have produced decent writing when I have just kept stubbornly persisting at it.
 
^This

It is far more important because it is impossible to be a good writer if you don't write but it is not impossible to be a good writer if you don't read. I know lots of people who read a shitload, who can't write to save their lives. And nobody I can say the opposite for. Perhaps I shouldn't have capitalized the word far. Otherwise my point stands.

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Writing is more important than reading; most aspiring writers don't write enough. Everybody says "read"; I say "write". They're not like two sides of a coin, really. Reading your own work is like the flip-side to writing, I guess. But reading other people's work isn't. There are a lot of readers who don't write at all; and a lot of people who watch television, that aren't involved in the production of programming; there are even people who eat ham, who don't slaughter pigs.

This is an awesome post, but what you write gets read, even if it's only by yourself, so the two activities are equal. Existentially linked supply and demand is, and no one's saying not to write.
 
Writers block?

Just simply take a break. Chop some wood, do some dishes, get laid.

Then take another whack at it. It's like anything else. Essentially the same advice given by the narrator in Pirsigs novel about buddhist motorcycles, same logic applies here. Whether you're programming a computer, replacing the carburator on your motorcyle, or standing beside one thousand monkeys with a whip made out of great Satan's tail trying to procure the Encyclopedia Britannica out of the brutes, you just need a break.

Meditation is helpful I've found.
 
^When you suggested moving the discussion to PM, we were on topic more or less. Then you went on a massive tangent and started posting links to your trip reports and asking completely off topic questions. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

I know, just kidding ya' a bit. Didn't mean any harm by it.
 
'everything is happening all the time everywhere'

i agree with Stephen Hawkins, 'the universe is in a nut shell', and that nutshell is in your head, also, 'its all in your head', and thats a good thing.

theres always something, so let it be.
 
^That's a very unique and interesting suggestion. I want to try it out. Does communicating online count as "speaking" in your mind? And does talking out loud to yourself count as well?

I find I can process ideas, poems, songs, or any information (both my own, and others') when I speak them aloud just by myself.
 
I agree it certainly is a bit drastic though. Maybe 12 hours in a deprivation chamber would work as well? I'm not mocking here I'm genuinely interested in the concept.



Since starting each day with black coffee and a keyboard to utilize, I've almost stopped reading entirely. Researching for material and listening to spoken word being the only exemptions.

I'm in the middle of Moby Dick, was intrigued and affixed to such a strong body of work. I'm still halfway there. "How could he just walk away from a thing like that," many a creative mind would be tempted to ponder. I can't rightly answer that, but I believe it to have something to do with this newfound passion for creating the story instead of indulging in it. Life is the drama, may as well keep a record and sustain mental health in the process (a characteristic this passion has produced in me).

Writing with a purpose, being something I've never before attempted with fiction in the slightest until a few weeks ago (a far more pliable medium and much less depressing than social criticism I'm finding), has transfigured a once apathetic romantic and nihilist into a functional creature consumed by fantastic ambition. I'm drinking less, spending less, doing more. Perhaps it was predetermined that my first work wouldn't come until the just the right moment, but I'm digressing towards topics we can't rightly substantiate. But back towards the question at hand:


So far for fiction I'm seldom trouble with 'writers block.' Perhaps it's a result of being so green and new at the medium, but when I do I brew black coffee and simply shift focus and spill my words onto some other medium. Bluelight, Facebook, anything or anything to get the ball rolling even if I have to shift uneasily in my seat for ten minutes while getting going. Having a hot beverage to the right of your keypad helps immensely for those whose focus has a tendency to wander. Coffee, Tea, doesn't matter. Hot water will suffice just as well, but once you're awake the sooner you start writing I think the better off you'll be. It may be subjective, but it's been working so far for me.

Here's a new one I just thought up and implemented today. Keep a diary of your nightmares (or dreams, if you're fortunate enough to get them). I feel this a surefire way to get in the habit of writing deeply each morning, tempering your character and helping you to formulate a silent instrument of creative function. I'll continue the practice and return to tell you how helpful it may or may not turn out to be.
 
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^That's a very unique and interesting suggestion. I want to try it out. Does communicating online count as "speaking" in your mind? And does talking out loud to yourself count as well?

I find I can process ideas, poems, songs, or any information (both my own, and others') when I speak them aloud just by myself.

it can be very difficult and that is the greatest challenge for me when practicing, but yes the point is to reserve energy and get in touch with your inner your voice and heighten other inner-senses. so typing away allowing for diversion of your thought process on the internet becomes redundant.
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the observation of silence is what makes the difference, i only spoke maybe 20-30 minutes a week for a couple years, but it wasnt until i began observing the and my silence that the meditative process began. now i speak 2-3 hours a week at most. but do a lot typing...

"Only silence is the eternal speech. The only words,
the heart to heart talk.

Silence is the best and the most potent initiation. Silent-initiation
changes the hearts of all. Silent-initiation is the most perfect; it
comprises looking, touching and teaching. It will purify the
individual in every way and establish him in the reality. Silence
is meditation without mental activity. The inner silence is self-
surrender and that means living without the sense of ego.
Silence comes into being when the individual is completely free
from ego, when he surrenders himself totally to the Lord.

Silence is truth.

Silence is bliss.

Silence is peace.

And hence silence is the Self."

- Sri Ramana

_________
A heavy snow fall disappears into the sea -
OH WHAT SILENCE!
- Traditional Zen
 
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You're philosophy is rather like mine at the moment, PIP.

Mindfulness must be nourished and cared for, lest we walk around as though already dead.
 
there is always the option of writing simply for love, practice and leisure; rather than each time attempting to produce your all time best work or a potential pulitzer prize awarded novel. some of my best work has stemmed from emotional states (i used to believe that the best writing stems from pain, until i began writing when blissfully happy also); although find sometimes neutral topics that require your imagination to go crazy are the most enjoyable and will surprise you in the quality of writing youre able to produce.

i find when i feel myself stuck, sometimes a little push to be creative and explore the magic of your mind is with a good prompt. once you open the floodgates and words start tumbling out of you, you can better focus on topics you'd like to express.

eg. 25 creative writing prompts found online to play with:

1. you’re digging in your garden and find a fist-sized nugget of gold.
2. write about something ugly — war, fear, hate, cruelty — but find the beauty (silver lining) in it.
3. the asteroid was hurtling straight for…
4. a kid comes out of the bathroom with toilet paper dangling from his or her waistband.
5. write about your early memories of faith, religion, or spirituality; yours or someone else’s.
6. there’s a guy sitting on a park bench reading a newspaper…
7. write a poem about a first romantic (dare I say: sexual) experience or encounter.
8. he turned the key in the lock and opened the door. to his horror, he saw…
9. silvery flakes drifted down, glittering in the bright light of the harvest moon. the blackbird…
10. the detective saw his opportunity. he grabbed the waitress’s arm and said…
11. there are three children sitting on a log near a stream. one of them looks up at the sky and says…
12. there is a magic talisman that allows its keeper to read minds. it falls into the hands of a young politician…
13. and you thought dragons didn’t exist…
14. write about nature. include the following words: hard drive, stapler, phone, car, billboard.
15. the doctor put his hand on her arm and said gently, “you or the baby will survive. not both. i’m sorry.”
16. the nation is controlled by…
17. you walk into your house and it’s completely different — furniture, decor, all changed. and nobody’s home.
18. write about one (or both) of your parents. start with “i was born…”
19. the most beautiful smile i ever saw…
20. i believe that animals exist to…
21. a twinkling eye can mean many things. the one that is twinkling at me right now…
22. good versus evil. does it truly exist? what are the gray areas? do good people do bad things?
23. my body…
24. have you ever been just about to drift off to sleep only to be roused because you spontaneously remembered an embarrassing moment from your past?
25. get a package of one of your favorite canned or boxed foods and look at the ingredients. use every ingredient in your writing session.

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Try writing about having no ideas. Writer's block can be a topic in and of itself. Think outside the block.
 
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