down508
Bluelighter
I'm not sure what you mean by compete. are you talking about it's blocking ability? it's ability to knock opiates off receptors? it's perceived effects? because I'm in the same boat as you, 60 8's a month for the past 2 years, except I've managed to bring my dose to between 1 and 2 mg a day. and if I wait 24 hours after my last dose .2 g of quality heroin gets me extremely high, if I don't wait as long it doesn't get me as high obviously, but if I take heroin for 2 days without any suboxone if I put 1mg of bupe in my system within 24 hours it will beat the shit out of the dope, and me lol. the fact is bupe has stronger binding ability than heroin, and almost all opiates for that matter. heroin has stronger analgesic, euphoric, and depressant effects and a more linear dose response than bupe, especially for someone who has been taking bupe daily for years.
I guess its a chicken or the egg type situation. if you take 1 mg of bupe i.v. and then do a good dose of heroin 8 hours later you will probably get high as shit, but if you take the heroin and then the bupe 8 hours later the bupe will beat the dope. If your talking about extremely small doses though like say 50 micrograms than that's a different story
I guess its a chicken or the egg type situation. if you take 1 mg of bupe i.v. and then do a good dose of heroin 8 hours later you will probably get high as shit, but if you take the heroin and then the bupe 8 hours later the bupe will beat the dope. If your talking about extremely small doses though like say 50 micrograms than that's a different story

