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Tianeptine, Time, & Mephedrone/MDMA Brain Damage

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So, about 6 months to a year ago (not sure how long-- part of the problem) I went VERY overboard with RC's-- specifically mephedrone-- stupidly dangerous doses-- 500-600mg one time doses, 5 grams in a night, etc. For a long period of time, I didn't feel normal, HPPD was horrible, anxiety was bad, depression worse, I felt like I had ruined my brain forever. Now, I'm feeling much better than a few months ago and am keeping myself occupied swimming, going to amusement parks and having fun. I've been sober for a long time-- besides some synthetic cannabinoids last month, as well as a 50-100mg MDMA (I think it was MDMA) thing about 3 months ago in which my heart went 150mg, I didn't get very euphoria or empathetic, etc, as well as a 2c-i trip that started out without me being able to talk for a while for some reason but got better as time went on.

Now a few months later, been sober for the most part for a while and I am feeling much better. I am planning a 2C-C trip (since it is mild) in a few weeks to kind of kick start the summer and maybe think through some final things that I can actually change that may make things better.

On the brain chemistry side of things-- how long can I expect until full recovery-- feeling normal, no DP/DR, no serotonin fuckups. I get these feelings every now and then of being extremely normal and happy-- and then get a mini-crash and feel bad for a while-- kind of bipolar ya know? I was reading about Tianeptine, (an SSRE) and how it helps in neurogenesis with brain damage and thinking about doing a 3 month treatment with it to kind of get myself back on track-- and then tapering off. During this I should feel better due to increased serotonin sensitivity, and afterwards due to increased neurogenesis (and time). However, its not prescribed in the USA, so I am planning on ordering some and setting aside some to taper off.

Any inputs, encouragements, prayers, advice, experiances, anything?
 
is it okay if I post this in TDS even though I posted it here as I'd like some input before I order this
 
Tianeptine

This is the most tollerable antidepressant that I have come across that interacts with serotonin...all the standard ones, paxil, zoloft, SSRIs...give me instant nausea, sweating, the runs....
This one is better ...at least for me ...in the present time...our body/brain chemistry changes quite a bit....me thinks...

This one (although modified tricyclic) seems to do what the others(SSRIs) claim to do...and quickly...not taking 3 weeks...for an effect
 
I think you should reconsider using the 2C-C.

It always seems to me when symptoms like this present themselves that the best solution is abstinence for a long time from most compounds.

I'm sure the mephedrone did the majority of the damage and I doubt the 2C-C will physically damage your brain, but psychologically who knows what your future trips will do to you.

Good luck!
 
abstinence would probably be preferable, but since this depends on the current level of your symptoms and mental state in general, you'd be the best person to decide whether or not its worth the risk. I like 2c-c and it is quite mild, so I personally doubt this would have any negative effects, but there's no way to know for sure. Any drug is a potential risk though, and its also possible that it may have a positive effect on your outlook and such, or that it will have negligible effects, YMMV.
 
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The 2c-c was a great experiance and definitly helped me a bit. It definitly worsened my HPPD back to a bit ago but thats not really the main problem.
Though, I took 5 mg adderall yesterday and it made me paranoid all over again, alcohol helped it and I'm having a better day today.
 
incartiettelle: honestly, its not degenerative-- its just a bit of serotonin clog-ups; time and as you said, a healthy lifestyle does wonders-- as does positive thinking (and the things you say). Also pot.

I held myself off pot for a LONG time thinking it'd make it worse and it did exactly the opposite-- there was a bit of anxiety at first but I got over that quick and now I'm almost a normal person hahahahahahaha
 
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