Opioids Tianeptine Megathread v1

[DoctorMolecule]

I?m gonna say this again and probably will keep saying it... please don?t shoot this stuff! It has similar solubility in water to most benzos.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I?m gonna say this again and probably will keep saying it... please don?t shoot this stuff! It has similar solubility in water to most benzos.

Tianeptine Freeacid and Tianeptine Sulfate do have poor solubility in water but traditional Tianeptine sodium salt is quite soluble in water. Its hundreds if not thousands of times more soluble in water than most benzodiazepines are.

Tianeptine sodium is still dangerous to inject though, so I wont argue there . Its reported to burn pretty bad so its likely caustic. Plus it tends to get glue like in water which cannot be good for the veins.

 

[FlawedByDesign]

I highly suggest that any of you guys with a habit start tapering as the DEA just posted a report on their website about the increasing amount of calls made to the poison control center over tianeptine consumption. I had a nasty habit myself and would usually recommend switching to Kratom but who knows how long that will be legal.If you’re on the Sodium I would definitely recommend switching to the sulfate as it is much more suitable for a taper.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

All signs point to yes says my magic eight ball. This DEA post FlawedByDesign mentioned isn't the only sign the end may be near...

If your plan is to switch to Kratom then try tapering your Tianeptine below 1g a day first otherwise you won't find it very effective. I agree that kratom may be endangered as well though.

 

[constipated99]

ironically i have the same fate as the original posthead 3 years ago,but i'm taking tieneptine to manage withdrawals from invega injection.
if i take 100mg of tianeptine a day after how many days should i expect wds from that stuff?
would it do any good if i skip a day every 3 days?

help guys

 

[constipated99]

guys i need help and information.
i'm taking 100mg tieneptine/day to manage invega sustena injection withdrawals and to say the truth because i'm an addict.
after how many days should i expect wds from that stuff?
will suboxone take them away?

 

[Prescottdave]

guys i need help and information.
i'm taking 100mg tieneptine/day to manage invega sustena injection withdrawals and to say the truth because i'm an addict.
after how many days should i expect wds from that stuff?
will suboxone take them away?

Depends on your history of opioid use. If you have a history of opioid dependency you are likely to develop a small habit after ten days. Suboxone will cover most of the WD's and actually will be total overkill. If switching from tianeptine to sub I would not take anymore then 1mg.

 

[welob1977]

I could use some help. I ordered a bit of tia fa and tia sul. I am not super familiar with all the ways you can order this. When it arrived I took a small amount and got pretty sick. I spoke to the supplier and she said it was raw material and needed to be processed for people to take it. That is all the information she could give me. She said all her customers process it themselves. Does anyone know what this process may be?
Any help would be appreciated.

 

[g0to]

^This is where the distinction comes in with regard to harm reduction. We're not a site to help you get high, it's a harm reduction site.

You say you took a "small amount". What's a small amount? Did you measure or weigh it in some way before ingesting? Perhaps that's what they mean by "processing".

If you simply went ahead and ingested "a small amount", that could be anything from a truely small small amount to upwards of 100mg+. We have no way of knowing whether you simply had a bad reaction to it or if it was too much you took, other drugs youre currently taking, etc etc. This is something you must do the research on and figure out for yourself if you ever want to be able to take drugs safely.

 

[welob1977]

Let me ask this question in a better way. Does anyone know how to process api raw material tianeptine?

 

[FlawedByDesign]

^Does not need to be “processed” in the same way benzos need to be through volumetric dosing. That being said you absolutely need a .001 scale to take this substance. 100mgs is a good sized dose for someone with a tolerance. I believe 25mg 3 times a day is the actual recommended dosage for use as an antidepressant. Please invest in a milligram scale before using again as this stuff could kill you just like any other opioid. You can get set of Gemini scales from Amazon for $20 that would be suitable.

 

[fastdelslow]

If you're on this you should taper/ get off now. Because of FDA / DEA pressure is mounting on vendors. Most reputable ones are either closing or removing the sodium versions. I'm just glad I tapered myself down to about 100mg a day from 4g a day b4 this happened. Just a heads up....taper

 

[third_eye_lasik]

Yes it seems like the beginning of the end for tianeptine. The agencies have their eyes on this so it's pretty much as good as gone.

Shame since if used in one 160mg dose on sat night and sat night only you get a great 3 hour buzz that is completely unique feeling. At 30 min mark you get warm euphoria with a slight stimmy uplift and life becomes more comfortable and exciting. It enhances good buds and small doses of hydrocodone. If you use this daily even just for a week or two it sucks you in and takes hold quickly. I will miss my Saturday ally but on to the next one I guess.

 

[Rick1488hzx]

Has anyone iv'ed tianeptine??
I know it's dangerous! I've shoot everything in my 10 yr. Iv train!!
But is this possible???

 

[Jekyl Anhydride]

Has anyone iv'ed tianeptine??
I know it's dangerous! I've shoot everything in my 10 yr. Iv train!!
But is this possible???

Possible? Yes, but I'd have a read through some of the threads that surround others who've tried it.

So far, I've been injecting into the femoral veins for about 3 weeks and they are holding up fine. My guess is that the swelling induced by chemical irritation is too much for smaller veins to handle.

Just want to say some things. Don't IV tianeptine. Please. I quit about 3 months ago. I'm still trying to get rid of blood clots in my left arm from this stuff. Injecting tianeptine is not worth it!

I wish I'd have listened to people here and stopped sooner. In the interest of harm reduction, do not IV this stuff! I won't be doing it any more via any ROA. When I quit, it took me probably two weeks to be able to sit still and get comfortable. The withdrawals were just like methadone.

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[FlawedByDesign]

Totally forgot I started this Big n Dand I'm actually contributing!!

"After one slightly missed shot I got cellulitis and ended with two staph inflections. One of which is pretty resistant to oral antibiotics meaning essentially a month of staying in the hospital so I could get IV antibiotics. I'm still taking the antibiotics now and there isn't a guarantee that although the bacteria is dead in my blood, it is hiding or could mutate."
Not to mention people on Russia losing their limbs from shooting Stablon.

Only thing I'm going to miss about the stuff is using it to replace the pain pills that the dentist can no longer prescribe in my state.

 

[Jekyl Anhydride]

I implore you with the utmost urgency to get that checked out. It might need antibiotics and lancing or thrombolytic, anticoagulant & anti-platelet therapy to prevent a thrombosis. Just please let them figure it out. I'm not comfortable advising heat or wasting any time specifically because it's Stablon/ Coaxil. Here's why:

For the first time I found out about Coaxil users from people in infectious diseases hospital on Sokolina Gora(one of the districts in Moscow).The told me about epidemic among young Moscow citizens, who dissolve Stablon/Coaxil pills in water and then inject them. Tiny crumbs block blood vessels and as a result you get gangrene. They spoke about dozens of guys and girls with no arms or legs, locked up on one of the floors of the hospital.

So then I asked my friend who works as a surgeon in the hospital N15. The hospital specialises in vein diseases. Ivan(my friend’s name is Ivan) told me that 2-3 Coaxil users a shift have been brought to his hospital every day for the past three years! And surgeons are amputating arms and legs of young people aged 17-25. “ We feel sorry not so much for them, but for their mothers, who are howling with pain:”Save my child’s legs!” We have at least 5 coaxil patients at a time in our department.

Why does gangrene start? What happens?
-If you watch the process of making coaxil substance by drug users you will see quite clearly why. They crush the pills and dissolve them in water, very often it is tap water. Then they get a disperse substance and it’s particles cause damage to a vessel and build a thrombus (clot) inside it. The thrombus starts growing rapidly. The thrombus itself is a very good environment for various microorganisms and that provokes purulent complications.

Coaxil madness in Russia

 

[Specified]

Hello gang,

Is it safe to take Tianeptine with a seizure history?

 

[Mycophile]

So is the consensus that Tianeptine is really not good for depression because of how horrible the WD is?

I hear that it can be used as an antidepressant and some people respond well to it, but I also keep hearing people talk about how horrible the WD is, and you are talking to someone who has disliked Kratom WD and had trouble not using too much of it, and I once heard someone in here, probably somewhere in this thread, say that if you've had problems with Kratom to NEVER touch Tianeptine.

Is this stuff really best to stay away from and not consider for usage for depression if you are the type of person to often abuse substances?

 

[Vastness]

For the benefit of anyone else who might be reading this thread and would be quite understandably scared away... The withdrawal is not an issue if you take it in sensible doses. Some of the dosing described in this thread is absolutely insane. Admittedly the prescribed dose is a little low for many, but just a little bit higher Tianeptine can be a highly effective antidepressant and even nootropic - at least in the short term, longer term benefits are harder to quantify.

It is most definitely no more or less dangerous than any other abusable substance, if abused. I don't usually like using the word "abuse" in the context of substances, but if ever it would apply, it would be to the patterns of usage in this thread. There is nothing really that special about high dose tianeptine compared to any other drug, it's not the most euphoric, interesting, if you're looking for recreation there are many better options.

Of course everyone has their preference and for some people maybe there is something special, fair enough, I wouldn't dispute this, but my point is that the reason tianeptine is abused really has little to do with any of it's inherent qualities (except perhaps the fairly short duration, admittedly), but a lot more to do with the fact that it is cheap and easily available. Of course there's nothing unusual about this either, this is the case with almost every substance demonised and stigmatised in the public eye because of widespread problem usage. It does however result in serious negative bias as far as the actual dangers of these substances in an objective sense.