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Opioids Tianeptine Megathread v1

I'll admit the compulsion to redose throughout the day is powerful and the crash can be frustrating, but I got no withdrawal after using ~300mg a day for 3 weeks straight. I'm sure mileage may vary, but you aren't necessarily up shits creek if you use this regularly in higher doses.
 
I'll admit the compulsion to redose throughout the day is powerful and the crash can be frustrating, but I got no withdrawal after using ~300mg a day for 3 weeks straight. I'm sure mileage may vary, but you aren't necessarily up shits creek if you use this regularly in higher doses.

Mileage may vary... Correct. Everyone reacts differently.

In my experience, withdrawals are horrendous when one starts taking multiple 200-300mg doses per day. This may seem like a lot when the therapeutic dose is 12.5mg thrice a day... But with Tianeptine compulsion to redose and quick tolerance rise, it won't take some long to get to a point where they are dosing in grams per day. Especially in those predisposed to addiction (and especially especially those predisposed to opiate addiction.

My point: Anyone who has decided to start taking Tianeptine, even with the best of intentions, should be cautious.

My other point: Tianeptine is not a good substitute for those looking to replace their daily kratom addiction. Lack of a ceiling dose, bad withdrawals, quick tolerance development, etc.

I just want anyone considering Tianeptine to fully consider the option before jumping in. It is not a benign supplement like it is marketed to be (well, it appears it can be benign if used strictly therapeutically at 12.5mg three times a day; at higher doses is when these issues appear) Just be aware. If you start taking it too often at too high a dose then you can quickly find yourself in hot water. Hotter water than you would be had you gotten there using kratom.

Just be safe. Opiate addiction sucks.
 
make sure to dilute with enough water, maybe 50mg/ml. the solution is very thick and "sticky" at higher concentrations.
 
People seem to be saying to stay away from this stuff if you are opiate naive like me and have mostly used just Kratom in the past with VERY sporadic low doses of Oxy and Hydro which I tend to stay away from and have not used for about 2 years or more.

BUT...I was wondering if it is POSSIBLE to get high (ORALLY...I NEVER IV and try to avoid snorting or even plugging) Tianeptine once or twice a week (is 3 times too much??) and NOT get addicted or get horrible WDs???

And how long does the Tianeptine high last??

Ive heard people say like only 2 or 2.5 hours??

If so, no wonder people compulsively re-dose...
 
People seem to be saying to stay away from this stuff if you are opiate naive like me and have mostly used just Kratom in the past with VERY sporadic low doses of Oxy and Hydro which I tend to stay away from and have not used for about 2 years or more.

BUT...I was wondering if it is POSSIBLE to get high (ORALLY...I NEVER IV and try to avoid snorting or even plugging) Tianeptine once or twice a week (is 3 times too much??) and NOT get addicted or get horrible WDs???

And how long does the Tianeptine high last??

Ive heard people say like only 2 or 2.5 hours??

If so, no wonder people compulsively re-dose...
I didn't feel anything on a low dose so the first time I popped 100mg I got an energetic mood lift for an hour. it was nice.
 
wouldn't reapeat tianeptine experience

Orally it doesn't last longer than 2-3hrs! These effects usually start when its taken in high doses like 50mg-120mg. Yes, there is nodding and a very fast onset which is quite addictive, onset is 5-10min and you can fully feel it in 15min-20min max. The effects become more 'speedy' with increase in dose and frequency of use, as the serotonin enhancing properties manifest themselves the more days you stay on it. The first few times it will probably be completely devoid of any stimulating qualities, as a result of its action as a serotonin enhancer and this is the most magical period!

There is very little information on snorting it since the burn is incredibly harsh! Apparently the finely crushed powder hardens upon snorting, after it burns your nose that is. Its still active this way of course, however very much probably, this way of administration!

*Its worth noting* that it doesn't have any cross tolerance with opioids it doesn't seem since I am on methadone and 1 day of the week I may not have or take my methadone and if I take even a small amount 30mg-40mg I can feel the full spectrum of effects!

Injecting the powder, the cleanest of the cleanest version say 99%+ will result in a very cloudy solution which once injected, the veins harden to an extreme amount, like branches on trees!

If you are injecting the pills, God help you, you may even get the 'classic Kokodil' symptoms which are a death bed sentence.

I have had 1g tianeptine and I tried about 95% the amount in a 1 month - 1.5 months, orally. I find methadone affecting the NDMA take away from tianeptine's magic, so if you try it don't mix the two or you will only get less than half tianeptine's potential. Any other opioid should mix well, however tianeptine is one itself. I liked it until I found blood in my stool. I was trying to place it inside a capsule as I always had before, simply running the powder down a piece of paper into the capsule wouldn't work. As I was weighting the last 100mg in my container I noticed that the previously very soft powder had become extremely hard, to the point of making the powder a solid chunk. Yes it could be broken down - the chunk that is - into smaller chunks but it was already 'rock hard'.

I stopped giving the last 100mg or so away and I wouldn't ever order it again. I found it a blessing at first but after a while it was giving me problems like I said when id look in my stool id even see the white where the tianeptine was, also id see blood in my shit.

I am willing to bet the intranasal rush/high is amazing even more so than the oral, and I'm willing to bet hard money that the intravenous method must be absolutely insane with this drug. Its just that if the pharmaceutical grade powder is so damn toxic (its a cloudy mess when mixed & hardens the veins beyond belief), just imagine how much worse crushing the pills to inject is. This high is probably so intense that as soon as you inject this fucking shit, your already thinking of your next dose. I too btw believe this is what is behind the Krokodil horror cases rather than desomorphine itself.

I've even read of an IV heroin user that used a gram a day and who switched from a gram of very good #4 to one gram of tianeptine IV a day. The user reported 1g of tianeptine IV each gram was almost equipotent and that he/she didn't miss heroin one bit, this is good heroin keep in mind, however the tianeptine is very addictive, maybe more so than H!! There has been suspicion that the actual disasters reported by 'Krokodil' in Russia & Eastern Europe isn't from desomorphine but rather from this tianeptine exposure instead. Please remember that injecting the pills is 10x worse than injecting the power form tianeptine, which is bad as is on it own right.

p.s. I mostly took it for the anti depression properties. I only took it 3-4 times in 80mg-120mg doses, along with both benzos and alcohol, but alcohol is very contraindicated I came to find out later. You get significantly relaxed after taking even small amounts. Dreams are extremely vivid, pleasant as this sounds its horrible if you are having nightmares!!!!
 
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If you have ever felt tianeptine once it gets wet or exposed to air, I don't know how you could ever consider shooting it. It seriously is the consistency of glue.
 
If you have ever felt tianeptine once it gets wet or exposed to air, I don't know how you could ever consider shooting it. It seriously is the consistency of glue.

I bought a little tub months ago, I never used it since but apparently I didn't seal the lid tightly enough... It's rock solid now. It wasn't even exposed to moisture, just air.
 
The sulfate form of Tianeptine has a much longer half life. Better than sodium version. Not sure why they even produce the sodium version as it has such a short action. Still dont agree that this is an opiate drug as some have classified it. Would like to know the long term effects- re OPIATE INDUCED HYPERALGESIA. THIS HAPPENS WITH ALL OPIATES AND BASICALLY MAKES THEM USELESS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHRONIC PAIN.
 
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