Thoughts on this cycle?

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Skysniper

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Ok guys so here it is. Let me have any and all opinions or advice, thanks!

Weeks 1-4 Danabol (Naposim) @ 40-50mg per day

weeks 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate @ 500mg/week (Broken down to be injected twice a week)
500mg ends up being slightly less than 1 ml, right?...

weeks 1-12 Primobolan (Methanolane Enanthate) @ 400mg/week broken down to be injected 3 times a week at about 1.33ml per shot...is my ml about right?

weeks 7-12 Winstrol (Stanolene or Stanozolo) 50mg every day

weeks 14-17 PCT
Day 1 Clomid 200mg +Nolvadex 40gm
next 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Tamoxifen 20mg
next 10 days - clomid 50mg or Tamoxifen 20mg

Thoughts, advice, experience?
 
I am noob but my opinion so far after reading.... go medium test dose only,if you really want to kick it to another level,why use coctail of extra roids,why not just drop the tren
 
Skysniper said:
Ok guys so here it is. Let me have any and all opinions or advice, thanks!

Weeks 1-4 Dianabol (Naposim) @ 40-50mg per day

weeks 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate @ 500mg/week (Broken down to be injected twice a week)
500mg ends up being slightly less than 1 ml, right?...

weeks 1-12 Primobolan (Methanolane Enanthate) @ 400mg/week broken down to be injected 3 times a week at about 1.33ml per shot...is my ml about right?

weeks 7-12 Winstrol (Stanolene or Stanozolo) 50mg every day

weeks 14-17 PCT
Day 1 Clomid 200mg +Nolvadex 40gm
next 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Tamoxifen 20mg
next 10 days - clomid 50mg or Tamoxifen 20mg

Thoughts, advice, experience?
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Interesting and effective combination.... As Primo is on the enanthate ester, I'd be inclined to pin it twice with Test-E....

200mg Clomid seems overkill... 50mg should be fine with 20mg Nolva....

500mg Enanthate should equate to 360mg of actual Testosterone, once the ester weight is removed...
 
Also with injecting the Test-E and the Primo....Test-E being twice weekly and Primo being 3x weekly, should I inject the primo in the shoulder and then use the buttox (Switching off side to side) for the Test-E or can I inject the Primo and Test-e into the same side buttox one after another?
 
Skysniper said:
Also with injecting the Test-E and the Primo....Test-E being twice weekly and Primo being 3x weekly, should I inject the primo in the shoulder and then use the buttox (Switching off side to side) for the Test-E or can I inject the Primo and Test-e into the same side buttox one after another?
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You're not listening.. Both of your injectable oils are on the Enanthate ester, draw the correct amount from both vials into the same syringe and inject the lot into the same injection site... Inject twice a week and rotate injection sites so you're not pinning the same place too frequently....
 
400mg a week of Primo E? That's a fucking waste. You need double that to see results bro. You are going to be pissing money away. Not to mention a first timer should not be using Primobolan. You use Primobolan when you are 7% bodyfat and have a physique worthy of it.

You should drop the Primo and the Stanazol.

All you need for your first cycle is Test and Dianabol.
 
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400mg a week of Primo E? That's a fucking waste. You need double that to see results bro. You are going to be pissing money away. Not to mention a first timer should not be using Primobolan. You use Primobolan when you are 7% bodyfat and have a physique worthy of it.

You should drop the Primo and the Stanazol.

All you need for your first cycle is Test and Dianabol.
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I was unaware he had said it was his first cycle..? If it is, I'm with you on this one Guido.... Test-E.... (Dianabol)..??

Seemed more like a pre-contest cycle to me..?
 
Hard to say if this is a first timer, he seems to know what he's talking about, types of gear, structured correctly, but on the other hand he's talking about 1.33ml shots and not matching the esters...
 
Ok so yes, let me clarify a few things. This is my first cycle. ok looking on the Test-E bottle it has: Each ml of product contains Test-E 300mg, it is a 10ml bottle...I have 4 of them.

The Primo says: each ml contains 100mg, also a 10ml bottle and I also have 4 of them.

I didn't even think about that but as you mentioned before, Test-e and primo into the same needle on the days that require both...

Also you said I wouldn't be getting enough Primo but it is injected 3 times a week, will that bring me up to an amount worthy of taking?

Am I forgetting any pertinent information?..
 
Skysniper said:
Ok so yes, let me clarify a few things. This is my first cycle. ok looking on the Test-E bottle it has: Each ml of product contains Test-E 300mg, it is a 10ml bottle...I have 4 of them.

The Primo says: each ml contains 100mg, also a 10ml bottle and I also have 4 of them.

I didn't even think about that but as you mentioned before, Test-e and primo into the same needle on the days that require both...

Also you said I wouldn't be getting enough Primo but it is injected 3 times a week, will that bring me up to an amount worthy of taking?

Am I forgetting any pertinent information?..
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Yes your not listening, If its a first cycle stick with test-E only....... 350-500mg/week ideally dependent on your bodyweight..
 
Agreed with GF here. First cycle should be dbol 30-50mg max and test e at 500mg depending on your weight as said above.

Can you please post

Age
Weight
Bodyfat %
Number of years continious training
Brief structure of diet + calories consumed

And we can assist you further.
 
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Age - 32
Weight - 185lbs
BodyFat% - 20%
Years of Continuous training - 1 year lifting weights, 2 months MMA training
I follow a fighters diet, 6 meals a day. Wake up drink wtr with creatin the 30 min cardio warm up. Oatmeal w/banana 2 hrs later 8-10 egg whites, 2hrs later 6-80z piece of chicken or fish, 2 hrs later brown rice 6-7oz Albacore Tuna, 2 hrs later 6oz piece of redmeat...Pice of fruit prior to training, after training 1 scoop whey protein (Gold standard) 6-8oz wtr

I'm trying to figure out, should I keep training as MMA for my training or should I just be hitting weights- to gain the most from the juice?....Also, What is the best time of day to shoot, first thing in the morning or does it not matter? Is Liv52 taken everyday?

Thanks guys!
 
20% bf? Unless you are a 300lb+ power lifter, you should cut your bf% down at least to the lower teens before using AAS. Do that, than run a test only cycle (some dbol as well...but test only is better suggested). Your fighters diet is not working if you are at 20% bf....adjust diet and cardio. Good luck.



/V
 
Oh, and I saw no mention of an AI. And to answer one of your questions as when the best time to shoot....since you will (well...when ready IMHO), it doesn't matter what time of day with long ester compounds. Best bet is to shoot as soon as you come out of the shower, IMHO. Again, drop the BF% before you start...and like others said, primo is a waste....ESPECIALLY when you are at 20% bf. Primo works best for those of us who are in the single digits.



/V
 
Victor knows his shit OP. Seriously listen to us people here. We aren't trying to hold you back, we are trying to save you money, time, and make sure you reach your goals correctly.
 
I say wait until at least <15% bodyfat before using gear, especially dbol, with that high of a BF% you will look like a balloon filled with water, do some cutting mate, give it a few months and drop the body fat. Maybe use some clenbuterol to speed up the process if you really need to.
And as others said - adjust that diet its obviously not working for you bro
 
nolys said:
I say wait until at least <15% bodyfat before using gear, especially dbol, with that high of a BF% you will look like a balloon filled with water, do some cutting mate, give it a few months and drop the body fat. Maybe use some clenbuterol to speed up the process if you really need to.
And as others said - adjust that diet its obviously not working for you bro
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He's obviously not taking his MMA seriously enough, when I boxed I was 6% body fat.... 20% is a joke..!! forget gear until you know how to eat and train, and can come in around 10% or under....
 
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