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Thoughts on Heroin purity in U.S.

Spite Suicide669

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Noticed other people talking about this in another thread. I'm from the Detroit Metro Area(suburbs), not a lot of people are into to boy I'm the subs, but the kids I do know that use like to say how there shits straight raw usually just throwin out some random % between 70%-99%. e.i."yeah this shits decent, probs like 80% not as good as that fire 90% shit yesterday". Which is obviously bull shit, i'm thinkin the dope from the D is around 25-35%. Pretty much speculation from what I've seen and things I read from online. Here's a link to the most relevant: http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs38/38661/heroin.htm
According to that article the purity *wholesale* dope of South American dope was 58%, by the time it gets to us I'd be shocked if it was over 45-50%. From what youve seen how potent is stuff from you area is? What city?
 
I think that is has become less consistent. I was just having this conversation today. There is some fire around, that's for sure, but there is a lot more low purity dope around then there was a few years back.

As far as purity percentages go, I can't really comment on that.
 
idk about the purity %, but the black i get is straight fire. when i was using everyday, all i needed was a $10 balloon, and just like half of that shit would have me rocked. noddin hard for the afternoon.

the stuff varies in quality, i think.. when id get halfs for dirt cheap it seemed it wasnt as good as the (more expensive) shit from another source, but thats probably because i was doin so much of the shit, tolerance rising.
 
Man they say in NJ and NYC it's like 65-75% for bags and 80% or so for "raw" and thats likely true since it is the heroin spot at the moment for Colombian dope, The whole NJ,NYC,New England area has better dope on avg, than most places and cheaper,,thats a true but broad fact, some places get dope that 40-50% pure powder and it's all they have ever done, and when they do some that's 60% for example thats like 25-30+% more dope than the 40-50% shit, so it would be "fire" compared to the regualr shit..anyway, purity varys by dealers , by location, city, town, suburb, what type of dope you get, West coast= Mexcian dope, East Coast=Colombian dope, in between some of both, depends, I imagine the dope in Detroit is better than 25% pure, I have heard that it is better from actual seizure info I saw online which can be misleading on purity, becasue they always end up with a bag of fake 0% pure not dope, they count as 0% and then they get all purity levels between XX% and XX+% and avg, them out, so taking in account for the 0% bunk dope they count as heroin,which is bullshit, if it's 0% it has no heroin and is fake dope,so it should not avg in IMO, 5% or 10% yes, becasue their is actually dope in it, but not fake dope..lol.. If you take 10 samples and most are 60% and a few are 80% and one is 0% that lowers the overall purity alot on avg. purity shit the DEA puts out and all cops, do not count fake dope in there I say, count the purity of collected bags of users that got busted and sample the purity of every bag, over a year, and I bet ,if no fake 0% shit is taken into account it is higher than the DEA stats say...although, who the fuck knows the exact purity without some huge expensive lab, testing eqipment? Even the people that make it test it , but after it leaves the production site or test area, who knows what fool might add 1-2% to 100 kg..thats an extra 1-2 kg on 1-2% cut with that much dope!!! Think about how many hands it goes through, and how many pass it as is(which does happen) and how many weasals add a little 5% cut to fatten their wallet or to replace a few grams of more of dope they stole to use themselves,rarely happens in big time dealers, they know better than to use dope, they see its bad side all day every day clocking to users!! Think about it..lol..If you saw the biggest low lifes in your area trying to talk their way outta some dope for less, or trade some bullshit they stole worth $200 for a bag or 2 or so, plus all the functioning users,hard core junkies who still maintin as best they can, and rich people with money to spare all in the same day, day after day,week after week,.etc..Would you want to use something that turned some of the weakest of us out there into thieving homeless no good junkies?? No offense to anyone who has lived that way, I have seen plenty of good people and freinds and family end up in the gutter over dope or drugs of different kinds...I almost ended up on the streets myself , almost...had to check my head and get outta the way I was living and using or I would not be here today!
 
i forgot where i saw it but someone on BL had legit DEA documents that showed the avg street purity in the US was between 30-35%, i think. i dont have the best memory and i forget who posted it and where but thats what i remember
 
Man they say in NJ and NYC it's like 65-75% for bags and 80% or so for "raw" and thats likely true since it is the heroin spot at the moment for Colombian dope, The whole NJ,NYC,New England area has better dope on avg, than most places and cheaper,,thats a true but broad fact, some places get dope that 40-50% pure powder and it's all they have ever done, and when they do some that's 60% for example thats like 25-30+% more dope than the 40-50% shit, so it would be "fire" compared to the regualr shit..anyway, purity varys by dealers , by location, city, town, suburb, what type of dope you get, West coast= Mexcian dope, East Coast=Colombian dope, in between some of both, depends, I imagine the dope in Detroit is better than 25% pure, I have heard that it is better from actual seizure info I saw online which can be misleading on purity, becasue they always end up with a bag of fake 0% pure not dope, they count as 0% and then they get all purity levels between XX% and XX+% and avg, them out, so taking in account for the 0% bunk dope they count as heroin,which is bullshit, if it's 0% it has no heroin and is fake dope,so it should not avg in IMO, 5% or 10% yes, becasue their is actually dope in it, but not fake dope..lol.. If you take 10 samples and most are 60% and a few are 80% and one is 0% that lowers the overall purity alot on avg. purity shit the DEA puts out and all cops, do not count fake dope in there I say, count the purity of collected bags of users that got busted and sample the purity of every bag, over a year, and I bet ,if no fake 0% shit is taken into account it is higher than the DEA stats say...although, who the fuck knows the exact purity without some huge expensive lab, testing eqipment? Even the people that make it test it , but after it leaves the production site or test area, who knows what fool might add 1-2% to 100 kg..thats an extra 1-2 kg on 1-2% cut with that much dope!!! Think about how many hands it goes through, and how many pass it as is(which does happen) and how many weasals add a little 5% cut to fatten their wallet or to replace a few grams of more of dope they stole to use themselves,rarely happens in big time dealers, they know better than to use dope, they see its bad side all day every day clocking to users!! Think about it..lol..If you saw the biggest low lifes in your area trying to talk their way outta some dope for less, or trade some bullshit they stole worth $200 for a bag or 2 or so, plus all the functioning users,hard core junkies who still maintin as best they can, and rich people with money to spare all in the same day, day after day,week after week,.etc..Would you want to use something that turned some of the weakest of us out there into thieving homeless no good junkies?? No offense to anyone who has lived that way, I have seen plenty of good people and freinds and family end up in the gutter over dope or drugs of different kinds...I almost ended up on the streets myself , almost...had to check my head and get outta the way I was living and using or I would not be here today!

who is they? when talking purity it does no good to just spout off numbers, though i do agree with your point about the dea possibly calculating bunk dope into thier overall percentages but i just feel like you added to the confusion instead of clearin it up, im not sayin i clearified anything and im not tryin to be rude but to just say THEY say shit in NJ is 65-80% is: very misleading, probably incorrect, and just adds to the confusion, now i may be wrong cuz im no expert and i have never tried NJ dope but im just sayin, it had to be said
 
Good point HoL. During discussions like this it's always better to post links to back up your point. Threads like this are great because we can all work together to find the truth and dispel and urban legend.
 
Analysis of heroin powder seized by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2005 revealed a heroin content that ranged from 7.3-75%.
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I feel like this quote pretty much sums it up. The purity varies widely. Even going to the same D boys, one day it would be fire and the next it would be shit. Im talking about Jersey BTW.

After a little googling it seems heroin purity has been on the rise since the 80's, when it was complete shit, like 3-4% pure in a 100mg sample. I didnt read anything that quoted a higher purity than the 75% i mentioned.
 
every bag varies, let alone every batch or day to day batches

i just look at my bags and can find big chunks of raw in it, so i know this bag has to be stronger then the bad before it that i didnt pull a piece of raw out of
 
every bag varies, let alone every batch or day to day batches

i just look at my bags and can find big chunks of raw in it, so i know this bag has to be stronger then the bad before it that i didnt pull a piece of raw out of

That is especially true if people are cutting it like that dude in the documentary about Chicago heroin that the bald dude was the interviewer of. IIRC, that dealer dude was throwing dope and dormin in a strainer together, and just running a playing card around the strainer to push the stuff through while trying to keep the dormin capsules from getting through.

I wouldn't say that NYC stamps vary though. The stamp is the same the whole time, and there aren't knock-offs all the time like in NJ. I guess it's because there aren't anymore open air markets in NY, so you usually just ask if they have the same stamp or a new one. If you really like a stamp, you go back to the person with it. If you don't like a stamp, you avoid it until they get a new one, then try the new one and make your future decisions on that.
 
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i always save my raw too

like i will save it til the veryend..i dont know why but its just how i do it
 
is there such a thing as morphine/opium slag? A friend said that some black tar was being sold in the SW US, and that it was the remaining material after the morphine has been extracted from the raw opium. I can't confirm any of that. I do know that 4 hits of that stuff got me nicely high for a few hours, and the next day I felt like NASTY (according to my friend it was because of how low quality the tar was). Smelled a lot like IR30s and OC when its smoked, not any "red oil" left on the foil. The other stuff Ive seen leaves a red oil behind, and has a much more subdued odor, and is supposed to be of better quality. sorry if this is annoying to anyone, Im an etard, dont know shit about heroin.
 
It's just gonna be like every other drug and vary from being stomped to shit to being 80-90%. Every batch is different.
 
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